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  1. #4301

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    sabagay sakto sad...bati-a sad siguro tan-awon kung mag misa ang pari nya mag short sando lang, di gyud siguro noon maka concentrate sa pag ampo
    exactly bro,, you just answered your own question.

  2. #4302
    mortal sin man cguro ng maghikog boss? haha

  3. #4303
    Quote Originally Posted by t3nd3rb3ar View Post
    mortal sin man cguro ng maghikog boss? haha
    i believe 7 rman to ang mortal sins, according to RCC, and suicide is not one of them..

  4. #4304
    Quote Originally Posted by t3nd3rb3ar View Post
    mortal sin man cguro ng maghikog boss? haha
    According to the theology of the Roman Catholic Church, death by suicide is considered a grave or serious sin. The chief Roman Catholic Christian argument is that one's life is the property of God and a gift to the world, and to destroy that life is to wrongly assert dominion over what is God's and is a tragic loss of hope. However, in the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church, Number 2283 states, "We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.

    Religious views on suicide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  5. #4305
    I heard a news once regarding this sensitive topic,



    judge for yourself


    this is the first time i post video, im not sure if this will work properly, but in case it will not here's the link

    Tony Nicklinson interview: Why I want to end my life - YouTube
    Last edited by Xian120; 01-08-2013 at 08:43 AM.

  6. #4306
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    Ampo, what do you mean by ampo para nimo bro? is it the veneration or praying for salvation to mary?..
    Unsa diay nang Hail Mary, di ba prayer may tawag ana?

  7. #4307
    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    Bro dili akoy gahimo nilang saint bro, haha, If naay buhat nga dalaygon kaayo ang usa ka tawo bro it will always be a reason to praise that person, after death it dont really matter where he went as long as he made some sort of good difference here on earth, i dont see anything wrong about assuming bro, as long as they have good reason to, it's premature but it's not the bad kind of premature that you are trying to imply here.. so whether or not nalangit it dont really matter, what we are looking at here is the goodness that they did whilst they were here on earth.

    in prayer there are no rules bro as far as im concerned, as long as you offer it heartily it will always reach the ears of your God..
    Pero if you ask a dead person to take/mediate your prayers to God bisag di ka sure nga nalangit naba tong tawhana, bisag di ka sure if paminawun ba siya sa Dios kay lagi ang Dios ray nakahibalo - unsay sense ana?

    Prayers have rules, naa sa Bibliya, Si Kristo man gani nagtudlo unsay paagi sa pag ampo sa amahan. If para nimu way rules ang prayer, imu sad na.

  8. #4308
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Unsa diay nang Hail Mary, di ba prayer may tawag ana?
    Oh unsa may problema ana bro?.. unsa may imo d i nabasahan anang hail mary?..

  9. #4309
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    yes sio, sakto ka nga dili ra ang nahisulat sa bibliya ang gibasehan sa practices but traditions of the early church as well
    however all the practices are believed to have scriptual basis. so if you agree
    technically, the practices and dogmas are still based in the bible.

    regarding "praying to mother mary", it really depends on how we understand this
    if you mean praying to mary, like mary our savior, thorugh you we have salvation ect...
    or the like, dili jud na insakto oi and
    WALA and NEVER jud na namu gibuhat sa RCC

    but if it is like this:mother mary help us to be more closer to God..i think there's nothing wrong with it
    and i believe that is what the Catholic church's stand regarding venaration of saints including mary the mother of Jesus.

    so to clear things out, we ask mother mary to pray and intercede for us
    and not worship her.
    I will Not argue if unsay basehan ninyu sa inyung doctrines kay inyu man sad na.

    Since naghisgot kag Biblical basis, Mangutana lang ko, nganu wa man ka mention si Krsito about kang Mary nga himuon natung mediator sa iyaha. Sa tibuok New testament wa may na mentioned si Kristo lagi nga naa man jud unta sa mary kauban niya. Nganu mas naa paman siya ghatag nga authority ni Peter kay sa sa iyang inahan?

  10. #4310
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Pero if you ask a dead person to take/mediate your prayers to God bisag di ka sure nga nalangit naba tong tawhana, bisag di ka sure if paminawun ba siya sa Dios kay lagi ang Dios ray nakahibalo - unsay sense ana?

    Prayers have rules, naa sa Bibliya, Si Kristo man gani nagtudlo unsay paagi sa pag ampo sa amahan. If para nimu way rules ang prayer, imu sad na.
    Bro ako dili man ko himasa ug bibliya but im sure naa diha nakabutang nga ang Ginoo nga imong gituohan, kong nitoo ka sa Ginoo sa bibliya, that God is omnipotent and all knowing, so bisag ga hung2 rka sa imong huna2 madunggan gihapon na sa Ginoo nga imong gi-ampo..

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