The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

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I asked this question once . Indeed Ginoo ra gyud nakahibalo yet , for one to become a saint, it undergoes a very crucial investigation to make sure it avoids errors on results.

That is the reason why POSTULATORS in Vatican carefully studies this events and accounts. In the case of San Pedro Calungsod , our friend and confidant , Agustinian priest and chief postulator , Fr. Fernando Rojo did a good job on this .

The miracles that occurs are themselves the messages already from the Heavens . One good example on this , like St. Nicolas de Tolentino , pwerting ka milagroso . When he was still alive , he has 301 mircales under his belt prior to canonization na only 3 are needed gani . Anyways , in one of his miracles , as tradition speaks about it , a fellow Augustinian brother appeared in a dream/visions/images of Purgatory asking for prayers and masses to be offered for the repose of their souls and to be cleanse so they can enter Heaven .

This is a challenge for San Nicolas because during that time , di ni kaya mo hatag ug misa ana kadaghanon within a week , if I am not mistaken murag 100 ka mass offerings kay naa baya sila strict scheduling ato sa monasteryo . To make the long story short, na offer niya tanan and this was manifested when the Augustinian brothers appeared again in his dream ang thankful because they are now in Heaven.

This is the reason why St. Nicolas de Tolentino is the patron saint of the POOR SOULS in PURGATORY.

@ SIODENZ ...



Naa nay sense because RCC are only recognizing the ordinary people who did extraordinarily well while being here on earth with us. Right now , we have mga 10,000 kapin na saints na CANONIZED , yet I am sure being a person who lived long enugh to know the life on one of my loved ones , I am even sure , 100% na siya santos pod para nako because she lived well according to God's commandments .

Ang decision na ang tao ma SANTOS or DILI is for us to manifest because of the gift of FREEDOM, its just that for ages , people tried and attempts to discredit it by making it ILLEGITIMATE like canonization happens overnight . Its not and its a process.

Again .... prayers through the INTERCESSION with the SAINTS is redundant na kaayo . Its either KABALO na ka sa tubag ana or di lang nimo madawat jud. You dont have to keep it , just embrace it.

AMEN!

St. Nicholas of Tolentino - Saints & Angels - Catholic Online

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Hahaha kuyaw sad ka'g huna2 da,. naa may daghang saints bro nga maybe naa sa langit maybe naa sa impyerno, example akong sangay nga si St. Dominic of Caleruega, rumor has it nga siya ni take part atong Inquisition wherein Christians killed thousands of heretics and burned witches at stake.. naa pud si St. Vladimir of Kiev, a viking saint who had 800 wives a pagan, killed his brother, and you well know what other things vikings do.. St. Louis who hated Jews and took part in the Inquisition. Saint Olaf was also a viking, i dont have to tell you what he did...

so it goes to show nga daghang saints ang makasasala, whether or not naa sila sa impyerno o porgatoryo o asa pana diha, it doesnt really matter now, coz they will always be remembered only for the good things they've done, siguro santos diri sa yuta, pero sa langit i dont know, as the old saying goes, "Ginoo ray nakabaw".. Whether or not you praise them sinner saints, ang importante diha nga natagaan ka ug giya or inspirasyon nga mamaayo, and that my friend is the most important. Bisan pa ciguro ug kinsa na imong ampoan bro para nko no big deal as long as wala ka nangdaut ug tawo, as long as buotan gihapon ka sa imong isig kaingon,. Just my opinion though,.

parihas ni atong gi ingon ni Papa Jesus bro nga it is easier for a camel to enter the eye of a needle than an unrepentant rich man to enter the Kingdom of God, i'm paraphrasing but you get my point, as long as naay true repentance, nig kamatay dawaton gihapon na sa langit, matud nila.. as a Catholic you should know that.

Diba naa may 3 parts of the Church (not sure if "parts" ang right term)? (1) Church Militant, (2) Church Triumphant, ug (3) Church Suffering.

Then Catholic says that Saints are part of the Church Triumphant. Googling "triumphant definition" shows that Triumphant means "Feeling or expressing ju*****ion after having won a victory or mastered a difficulty." So the Saints are victorious and happy somewhere. Is this an assumption by the Catholic Church or facts?

Going back ato akong question. Is the "3 parts of the Church" made by the Catholics says nga ang mga Santos naa sa langit? Kay d man victorious and happy ang santos if naa xa sa imperno.

Naglibog ko ana bitaw.

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Pwede ba mangutana nasad og lain? I think na-answer nato akong last nga question about Saints being in Heaven or Hell.

Again Catholic ko.

Do Catholic Church leaders claim that Catholic religion is true and free from PRESENT errors? Meaning, wala jud nasayop ang Katoliko sa mga tino-uhan karon?

[rmndela]

Mga igso,

Gibakwi na sa Roman Catholic Church ang LIMBO, PURGATORY ug ila man giadmit nga Si Jesus Christ wala man ipanganak sa December 25. Buot ipasabot walay LIMBO, PURGATORY ug dili birthday ni Jesus Christ ang Dec 25.

Niadtong dugay ng panahon miagi dunay 3 Popes sa tulo ka lugar kay dili sila magkauyon kung kinsay sundon sa mga pagtulun-an.

Mao lang na akong isulti bahin sa infallibility sa Pope.

@JOVI ...



Your question is kind of tricky . The INFALLABILITY of the POPE rested on being protected from errors . This doesnt mean he is impeccable (incapable of sin) or inerrant (incapable of error).

Mao ni siya ang pirme ma misinterpret because we relate it right away with being PERFECT which is not.

For a more in depth explanation , refer here :

Papal Infallibility | Catholic Answers





To properly understand text in Sacred Scripture, one has to have a rather humble and objective attitude and not possessed by a prejudiced orientation.

Refer to this site for the answer and in depth explanation:

Call No Man "Father"? | Catholic Answers

Online references are better because I dont have to type anymore . As long as it is Catholic , then it should be legitimate to answer the questions here .

I was referring to my literature titled UNANSWERABLE ANSWERS by Fr. Manuel P. Duetao but I cant find it online.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Mga igso,

Gibakwi na sa Roman Catholic Church ang LIMBO, PURGATORY ug ila man giadmit nga Si Jesus Christ wala man ipanganak sa December 25. Buot ipasabot walay LIMBO, PURGATORY ug dili birthday ni Jesus Christ ang Dec 25.

Niadtong dugay ng panahon miagi dunay 3 Popes sa tulo ka lugar kay dili sila magkauyon kung kinsay sundon sa mga pagtulun-an.

Mao lang na akong isulti bahin sa infallibility sa Pope.

OT: oi, 1st post, welcome to istorya bro rmndela!!

OnT: any proof bro nga gibakwi? ok ra diay to bro nga 3 ka popes, ky lain lain ug lugar, ang kuyaw ug 3 ka popes unya usa ra ka lugar. hehehe.

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Mga igso,

Gibakwi na sa Roman Catholic Church ang LIMBO, PURGATORY ug ila man giadmit nga Si Jesus Christ wala man ipanganak sa December 25. Buot ipasabot walay LIMBO, PURGATORY ug dili birthday ni Jesus Christ ang Dec 25.

Niadtong dugay ng panahon miagi dunay 3 Popes sa tulo ka lugar kay dili sila magkauyon kung kinsay sundon sa mga pagtulun-an.

Mao lang na akong isulti bahin sa infallibility sa Pope.

I think wala nag-sulti ang Catholic Church nga ni exist by SUBSTANCE ang limbo, purgatory ug pagkataw ni Jesus.

Dec. 25 doesn't mean nga Birthday ni Jesus for Catholics. Gi-celebrate ra ni in remembrance sa iyang birthday. Dili pasabot iya ning birthday.

Purgatory does not exist in the bible as a word "purgatory". Naa sa bible gi-describe kung unsa ang purgatory about. Ang catholic ra nag-buhat sa word nga purgatory para mapanganlan to ang gi-describe sa bible.

Limbo? Wa bitaw ko kabaw unsa na.

Ang event atong 3 popes nga nag-sumpaki ilang pagtoo maybe happens before Vatican II. Not sure ko ani.

I hope na-klaro ni nimo bro.

[Xian120]

Pwede ba mangutana nasad og lain? I think na-answer nato akong last nga question about Saints being in Heaven or Hell.

Again Catholic ko.

Do Catholic Church leaders claim that Catholic religion is true and free from PRESENT errors? Meaning, wala jud nasayop ang Katoliko sa mga tino-uhan karon?

They do in their time., but nothing is ever constantly true, at least parts of the whole truth.. take for example heliocentrism, the church never believed it once, when Galileo proposed it, the church excommunicated him because it was opposed to biblical teachings. It was only recently that the church believed him.. There have always been errors sa tinuhuan sa katoliko, and always will be,,

"The theory of evolution is no longer a mere hypothesis"
-Pope John Paul II

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They do in their time., but nothing is ever constantly true, at least parts of the whole truth.. take for example heliocentrism, the church never believed it once, when Galileo proposed it, the church excommunicated him because it was opposed to biblical teachings. It was only recently that the church believed him.. There have always been errors sa tinuhuan sa katoliko, and always will be,,

"The theory of evolution is no longer a mere hypothesis"
-Pope John Paul II

It goes true for morality right?

So why does the Church (or pope) claim to be nga dili masayop in moral and spiritual aspect? Does that mean sakto sila karon (presently)?

[Xian120]

It goes true for morality right?

So why does the Church (or pope) claim to be nga dili masayop in moral and spiritual aspect? Does that mean sakto sila karon (presently)?

yes.. but ang morality bro gibagay rna sa time and place, in our time bro mao na ang gi gonsider nga morality, due to existing laws, social standards, and biblical accounts.. next time ani bro basin magminyo na ang mga pari, and it would be considered morally right by then, but sa pagka karon dili pana sakto..

[Breakeven]

Only the perfect person of Jesus Christ is INFALLIBLE!