GNOSTIC GOSPELS and the OCCULT AGENDA!

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Yes, you can be save without doing good. This is what the bible says;

bro, let me clarify something kay basin daghan maglibog ani nuon...naa may dedicated thread ani nga topic.

Sa akoa pud bro, our salvation was completed already by Jesus Christ on the cross when he says, IT IS FINISHED!

YES i believe that we are saved by FAITH ALONE and no single amount of our good works needed to obtain that salvation. This is a genuine faith and is not head-knowledge only. This kind of faith will bear good works in the process of transformation. Kanang giingon nimo nga Faith without doing good works nga makaluwas, sa case lang na nga mamatay ang taw nga tinuoray nga nagtuo but walay chance of transformation. But it is a very contradicting idea if we say that we are saved and not do good works, in other words continue living in a state of being unsaved...that is not what the bible meant.

Ponder on this verse:
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.(2 Corinthians 5:17).

Question: "Is salvation by faith alone, or by faith plus works?"

Answer: This is perhaps the most important question in all of Christian theology. This question is the cause of the Reformation, the split between the Protestant churches and Catholic Church. This question is a key difference between biblical Christianity and most of the “Christian” cults. Is salvation by faith alone, or by faith plus works? Am I saved just by believing in Jesus, or do I have to believe in Jesus and do certain things?

The question of faith alone or faith plus works is made difficult by some hard-to-reconcile Bible passages. Compare Romans 3:28, 5:1 and Galatians 3:24 with James 2:24. Some see a difference between Paul (salvation is by faith alone) and James (salvation is by faith plus works). Paul dogmatically says that justification is by faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), while James appears to be saying that justification is by faith plus works. This apparent problem is answered by examining what exactly James is talking about. James is refuting the belief that a person can have faith without producing any good works (James 2:17-1. James is emphasizing the point that genuine faith in Christ will produce a changed life and good works (James 2:20-26). James is not saying that justification is by faith plus works, but rather that a person who is truly justified by faith will have good works in his/her life. If a person claims to be a believer, but has no good works in his/her life, then he/she likely does not have genuine faith in Christ (James 2:14, 17, 20, 26).

Paul says the same thing in his writings. The good fruit believers should have in their lives is listed in Galatians 5:22-23. Immediately after telling us that we are saved by faith, not works (Ephesians 2:8-9), Paul informs us that we were created to do good works (Ephesians 2:10). Paul expects just as much of a changed life as James does: “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come” (2 Corinthians 5:17). James and Paul do not disagree in their teaching regarding salvation. They approach the same subject from different perspectives. Paul simply emphasized that justification is by faith alone while James put emphasis on the fact that genuine faith in Christ produces good works.

Is salvation by faith alone, or by faith plus works?

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Gusto kag monotheism diay, unya nganong pantheism man lagi imong belief?
Unsa diay imong sabot anang Trinity?

ngano gud pantheism? usa ra man gani ang God, ang iyang mga messengers ky tungod wala kasabot ang ni too2x, ky dili mga studyante, gihimo-an ug religion unya gipanghimo nga Ginoo.

Pantyism seguro imong pasabot bro? daghang trinity bro sa among school: body, spirit, soul... God, Christ, Spiritual Vibration

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

parehas ra na siya JOvi ug moingon ka "ako ning yuta-a busa hawa na mo diri" tan-aw nimo mo hawa kaha mi ug wala kay ikapakita nga titolo?

bro, lain man na nga proof imong gipangita, angkon2x man na. ang kanang personal experience nga proof bro, kung unsa akong na experience imo pud nga ma experience mao na ang proof. example, moingon ko nimo nga lami ang inununan nga manok, ma prove nako nimo nga lami kung kakaon pud ka ana. moingon ko nimo, nindot kaayo ang kinabuhi nga tig meditate pirmi, malipayon pirmi. unsaon man nako ug prove nimo nga nindot? ikaw pud need ka meditate para makabalo ka nga tinood. like moingon ko nimo, nindot kaayo ang dunay mga anak, to prove nga nindot, need ka nga naa ky anak, para makaexperience pud ka unsa ka lipay ang naay mga anak, mao ang pasabot sa direct personal experience as proof.

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1vs 100 mn ni hahaha. kanus-a pa kha ni magdaug.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

@jovs



welcome jud kayo sa tanan bro bisan unsa atong i-share diri kay diha mogawas kung unsa jud diay ang kamatuoran. Mao nang inyong belief bro nga karon lang gipagawas nga Christian pud kunuhay!

That’s true! That’s why its important for us to know the history of early Christianity para dili ka mabwasot sa mga schemes ni Satan.



Wala ka kasabot dihang dapita bro!
Kinsa may gipang-persecute ug nag persecute? Mostly sa imong mga ideas about our Christianity is totally wrong, twisted imong knowledge of Christian history. First, you have to know that the true Christians were the ones being martyred/persecuted.

Basaha nig maayo bro para makasabot ka kinsay nag persecute sa ilaha.
Christian Martyrs



Kabalo ba ka nga sa unang panahon dili ipabasa hapit ang biblia? Tungod kay bisan giunsa pagtago2 ang kamatuoran sa unang panahon, naa gihapon ang holy spirit nga naglihok sa taw to spread the truths of the bible. Mao nang dili kalikayan dunay friction nga mahitabo! Pero ask yourself kinsay naa sa power to manipulate.

Basaha sad bro para naa kay idea why there was a protestant reformation…
The Protestant Reformation for Everyman



:0 wala jud nay problema bro! in fact, malipay kayo mi nga mahisgutan ang tanang butang diha sa bible para makasabot sad ta kung unsa jud ang tinuod diay. Andam mi modawat kung naay sayop diha and hopefully ikaw sad moangkon kung imong belief ni contradict diha sa bible. Since, mao mana atong gihimong reference sa kamatuoran….magquote man sad ka diha.


Unsa diay imong sabot sa mga miracles nga nabuhat ni Jesus Christ, drama2 lang?
I agree daghang grupo karon bro nga gidala ang ngalan nga Christianity gihimo lang ug pangwarta like sa uban nga obvious kayo ang binuang (to mention it bluntly, Inday/tita….kalimot ko sa name, basta bayot na sya nga leader) which naay mga healing or unsa pato ilang racket2 nga dili na nimo makita ang righteousness ug kamatuoran. Duna tay insakto nga panghuna2 bro to know if its right or wrong. Ask God for proper guidance to the truth sa imong kinabuhi.

sige ka gamit ug satan... wa man gani ka kaila sa tinood nga satan. kaila ug nakakita na diay ka?

bro, we all know nga Rome was a pagan country, they crucified Jesus, they persecuted early Christians, then nahimo sila nga center sa Christianity. Akong gibasa imong link, naa didto: "Christians are not physically violent people". then what happened to the Catholic vs Protestant War? pasabot ba ana, dili mo Christians? sakto bro, dili tinood mga violent ang tinood nga Christians, ky meditate ra man sila peacefully sa Christ, and pray/meditate for all goodness. Ang mga unang martyrs esp mga student ni Jesus, mao to ang mga tinood nga mga Christians, not afraid of death, ky dili man sila attached sa ilang bodies and wala mga material desires.

Aron ka masayod bro, si Luther, student na siya sa secret school, si Felix Manalo, si Aglipay, Si Ecleo Sr. ug daghan pa. pero pareha sa mga disciples ni Jesus, wala pa sila nakahuman completely, wala naka graduate sa school. dili ipabasa ang Bible, sa dili pa gyud masabtan nga language at first ky daghan pa man buhi nga mga original students sa Christianity. Kato nga time, para to sa mga dili students, maka create ug propaganda, gi inject sa mind hangtud accepted na.

nagquote ko sa bible bro, same verse but lahi ang akong interpretation as taught namo and as understood by the soul ug dili sa physical mind. Ang miracles ni Jesus bro, dili to consider nga miracles sa iyang mga students, demonstration to niya sa iyang students/disciples nga tinood ang universal laws sa God and then mao to ang mga applications. Wa toi drama iya. But kanang mga pastor ug mga pari nga kunuhay naka perform ug miracles, like nakabuhi ug patay, naka ayo ug masakiton, dako kaayo na nga drama, sagdahan lng na sila ug ingon ana, ilad2x anyways, daku kaayo na ug karma, bayran ra man gihapon na nila.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

@jovs



Unsa may importante diay para nimo, wala kay kausaban sa kinabuhi basta naa lay knowledge sa third eye? mausab imong kasing2 kung ma-open sya?

Let me tell you bro, ang nakalahi sa usa ka Christian nga kausaban is iyang kinabuhi nausab into the righteousness of Jesus Christ nga ni reflect sa iyaha. Unsay may basihanan nimo sa kausaban sa usa ka atheist, buddhist, etc..they changed into what?



Yes motuo ko ana bro.
Dili tanan nagclaim nga Christians matawag nato nga tinuoray jud. Bisan asa nga grupo sa Christianity naa jud nay dili tinuod nga christian, sa tanan pung grupo sa Christianity naa sad tinuoray nga nagdawat/nagtuo sa Ginoo ug nagsunod sa insakto.

Dili ta makablame sa ilaha kung mao sad na ilang ways sa pag worship/preach just like sa imoha nga secret2. Walay kalainan.

Kani maoy importante bro…

we are talking about proofs bro, ang kausaban sa kinabuhi dili na proof ky naay mga muslim ug mga atheist nga nangausab ang kinabuhi bisag lahi or walai gituhu-an nga Ginoo. from being a bad person bro, to nausab nga maayo na, peaceful and loving person.

pero makatawa gyud ko anang tukmod tukmod oi. hehehe. natumba kunuhay bec of the power of Jesus ky naa daw Holy Spirit. naay daghan sa youtube ana. hehehe.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Tinuod na bro, mao bitaw gi-warn sa Ginoo ang mga Israelites anang butanga. Kabalo ka bro, nagsunod ang conflict in the garden of Eden where Satan tempted Eve of the same temptation nga imong gisunod karon.

Concerning occult practices, the Israelites were told:

Deuteronomy 18:9-12a
When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire [an ancient occult practice], or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination [detestable] to the LORD…”

occult means secret/hidden... giunsa ninyo pagkabalo kung hidden or secret sa inyoha? tag-an tag-an lng, patak-an lng hehehe.

si Abraham bro, si Moses, si David, Buddha ug daghan pa before nila, mga studyante then later on mga teachers sa secret schools. aron ka makabalo, gihimo na sa Ginoo, through his messengers, para ang mga tao, makuha niya ug balik iyang original status as perfect beings ug makabalik na sa God's Kingdom. Para ang tao, makahinumhum pirmi sa Ginoo, to humble before God, which is originally ingon ana tanan tawo before naay knowledge about good and evil.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

kuyawa ani bro oi mahimo killer ug rapist save ra man d ie ko

kung maohon bro wagtagon na lng nato ang 10 commandments

ayaw na questiona bro, maestro ra ba na ug mas taas pa na ug experience nimo. sunda na lng na siya ky mao na ang sakto nga dapat nimo tuhu-an.

si Moses ky 10 commandments, but si Jesus ky 2 ra.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

ngano gud pantheism? usa ra man gani ang God, ang iyang mga messengers ky tungod wala kasabot ang ni too2x, ky dili mga studyante, gihimo-an ug religion unya gipanghimo nga Ginoo.

Pantyism seguro imong pasabot bro? daghang trinity bro sa among school: body, spirit, soul... God, Christ, Spiritual Vibration

Ang tanan ba naay soul nga pwede maka connect sa god?

[NapoleonBlownapart]

sorry bro, but your interpretation sa bible is dili mahimong proof.

Why not....