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  1. #641

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Unsa man imong ikashare or naa ba ka idea about the holy spirit bro? Mao mana ang one of the person sa Trinity. Naa ka idea of the event that happen during the pentecost?
    Holy Spirit, One of Persons? dili naman na monotheism inyoha bro

  2. #642
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Unsay belief ra. Naa me written word, the bible. Kamu wala. Asa man gud mabasa ug makita nga basahun para mutoo mi nimo?

    Kay kung walay mabasa, hala paghilum nalang kay sige nalang tawun kag kapalaw dinhi.
    proof diay ng bible bro? proof diay ng belief? proof diay na inyong own interpretation sa bible?

  3. #643
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Pasagad. Mao ni ingun ni John the Baptis John 1:33 (John the baptist said I did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water, He said to me, He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and abiding upon Him, this is He who baptizes in the Holy Spirit
    makabalo lng ka ana bro ug unsa na kung naka suway ka ug teacher-student life, same nila JTB-Jesus. Inyoha, Preacher-Believer man na, so dili gyud mo kasabot ana.

  4. #644
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    Holy Spirit, One of Persons? dili naman na monotheism inyoha bro
    Gusto kag monotheism diay, unya nganong pantheism man lagi imong belief?
    Unsa diay imong sabot anang Trinity?


  5. #645
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    proof diay ng bible bro? proof diay ng belief? proof diay na inyong own interpretation sa bible?
    parehas ra na siya JOvi ug moingon ka "ako ning yuta-a busa hawa na mo diri" tan-aw nimo mo hawa kaha mi ug wala kay ikapakita nga titolo?

  6. #646
    @jovs

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    naa pa mas grabe ana bro, i force to believe a new christian religion that was never created by Jesus.
    welcome jud kayo sa tanan bro bisan unsa atong i-share diri kay diha mogawas kung unsa jud diay ang kamatuoran. Mao nang inyong belief bro nga karon lang gipagawas nga Christian pud kunuhay!

    That’s true! That’s why its important for us to know the history of early Christianity para dili ka mabwasot sa mga schemes ni Satan.

    If dili gani mutuo aw, persecute dayon.
    Wala ka kasabot dihang dapita bro!
    Kinsa may gipang-persecute ug nag persecute? Mostly sa imong mga ideas about our Christianity is totally wrong, twisted imong knowledge of Christian history. First, you have to know that the true Christians were the ones being martyred/persecuted.

    Basaha nig maayo bro para makasabot ka kinsay nag persecute sa ilaha.
    Christian Martyrs

    so sa kadaghan na na force ug too, nangapo, ang mga apo dili na makatrace ug napapas na sa ilang hunahuna unsa gyud ang tinood nga christianity. naa pa gyud, ni protest ang gipang force nga tuhu-an nga simbahan, ipamugos pud ang ilang protesta, create hinoon ug religious war, Protestants vs Catholics.
    Kabalo ba ka nga sa unang panahon dili ipabasa hapit ang biblia? Tungod kay bisan giunsa pagtago2 ang kamatuoran sa unang panahon, naa gihapon ang holy spirit nga naglihok sa taw to spread the truths of the bible. Mao nang dili kalikayan dunay friction nga mahitabo! Pero ask yourself kinsay naa sa power to manipulate.

    Basaha sad bro para naa kay idea why there was a protestant reformation…
    The Protestant Reformation for Everyman

    naa pa gyud manipulation, ky lagi si Jesus maka heal ug sick, makabuhi ug patay, maka palagpot kuno sa demons nga ni possess, aw himoon ug drama, para makatoo nga naay power gikan ni Jesus. mao nay saktong manipulation. hehehe. sorry bro.
    :0 wala jud nay problema bro! in fact, malipay kayo mi nga mahisgutan ang tanang butang diha sa bible para makasabot sad ta kung unsa jud ang tinuod diay. Andam mi modawat kung naay sayop diha and hopefully ikaw sad moangkon kung imong belief ni contradict diha sa bible. Since, mao mana atong gihimong reference sa kamatuoran….magquote man sad ka diha.


    Unsa diay imong sabot sa mga miracles nga nabuhat ni Jesus Christ, drama2 lang?

    I agree daghang grupo karon bro nga gidala ang ngalan nga Christianity gihimo lang ug pangwarta like sa uban nga obvious kayo ang binuang (to mention it bluntly, Inday/tita….kalimot ko sa name, basta bayot na sya nga leader) which naay mga healing or unsa pato ilang racket2 nga dili na nimo makita ang righteousness ug kamatuoran. Duna tay insakto nga panghuna2 bro to know if its right or wrong. Ask God for proper guidance to the truth sa imong kinabuhi.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 01-05-2013 at 02:02 PM.

  7. #647
    @jovs

    di man na nimo pwede magamit nga experience sa Ginoo. nindot na siya ky nausab ang tao, but hunahunaa, dili lng kamo Christiano ang nangausab, naay mga muslim, buddhists, even atheists ky dili mutoo ug Ginoo.
    Unsa may importante diay para nimo, wala kay kausaban sa kinabuhi basta naa lay knowledge sa third eye? mausab imong kasing2 kung ma-open sya?

    Let me tell you bro, ang nakalahi sa usa ka Christian nga kausaban is iyang kinabuhi nausab into the righteousness of Jesus Christ nga ni reflect sa iyaha. Unsay may basihanan nimo sa kausaban sa usa ka atheist, buddhist, etc..they changed into what?

    naay nagstorya nako bro, nibalhin sila sa christian religion from catholic ky lagi ma scholar man ilang mga anak. sos ky inig dawaton na, papiyongon daw, unya murag para naay power kunuhay ni Jesus, i push gamay inig tawag ni Jesus, unya matumba daw, sos ky wala man nagpatumba, gikusog na daw, nagpagahi na lng gyud siya ug maayo ky kuyawan man siya ug matumba, gihunghunagan bitaw nga patumba lng, aw nagpatumba na lng siya, ang scholarship unya, ma tiway. ang uban sab daw, nagpatumba tumba na lng. unya naa ko kaila nga wala gyud natumba kuno siya sa una, bahala na lng daw. classmate hinoon nako sa secret school karon.
    Yes motuo ko ana bro.
    Dili tanan nagclaim nga Christians matawag nato nga tinuoray jud. Bisan asa nga grupo sa Christianity naa jud nay dili tinuod nga christian, sa tanan pung grupo sa Christianity naa sad tinuoray nga nagdawat/nagtuo sa Ginoo ug nagsunod sa insakto.

    Dili ta makablame sa ilaha kung mao sad na ilang ways sa pag worship/preach just like sa imoha nga secret2. Walay kalainan.

    Kani maoy importante bro…

    Last edited by Breakeven; 01-06-2013 at 12:55 AM.

  8. #648
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    wapa natawo si Abraham ug Moses bro, naa na ng mga secret schools.
    Tinuod na bro, mao bitaw gi-warn sa Ginoo ang mga Israelites anang butanga. Kabalo ka bro, nagsunod ang conflict in the garden of Eden where Satan tempted Eve of the same temptation nga imong gisunod karon.

    Concerning occult practices, the Israelites were told:

    Deuteronomy 18:9-12a
    When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire [an ancient occult practice], or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination [detestable] to the LORD…”

  9. #649
    wati ra gihapon ang mabulahan...

  10. #650
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Yes, you can be save without doing good. This is what the bible says;

    Now to the 1one who aworks, his 2wages are not accounted according to grace, but according to what is due.
    ROMANS CHAPTER 4:
    3 For what does the Scripture say? "And Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him as righteousness.''
    4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not accounted according to grace, but according to what is due.
    5 But to the one who does not work, but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted as righteousness.
    6 Even as David also speaks blessing on the man to whom God accounts righteousness apart from works:
    7 "Blessed are they whose lawlessnesses have been forgiven, and whose sins have been covered over.
    8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord shall by no means account sin.''
    9 Is this blessing then upon the circumcision only, or also upon the uncircumcision? For we say, Faith was accounted to Abraham as righteousness.
    10 How then was it accounted? While he was in circumcision or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.

    We assert that we are saved, not because of what we feel, think or agree. But what the bible says.
    kuyawa ani bro oi mahimo killer ug rapist save ra man d ie ko

    kung maohon bro wagtagon na lng nato ang 10 commandments

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