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  1. #261

    [QUOTE=jovipeorliohacokijo;14110810][QUOTE=%75life4Him;14110661]
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    Corinthians na pud? di man tawon na kang Jesus, kang Paul man tawon na oi. stick mo sa direct teachings ni Jesus, sabta ninyo ug maayo ky di na gyud mo kagawas sa lungag na na shatan ninyo. Ang yawa manganak? LOL, unsa hitsura bro, kita naka? naay sungay ug ikog gamay? Ang anak ni Pedro nga dautan, ky nabuutan naman napareha sa mga anak ni Juan nga mga buutan, nahimo nga anak ni Juan? hehehe. lingaw ko sa imong mga example bro da. hehehe. unya ingon man ka nga dili na mausab ang tao. hehehe. pinaagi na lng sa pasaylo. Kung lahi inyong pag-ila sa Ginoo, Kristo, syempre lahi pud ang inyong pag-ila sa devil/satan. so buhat lng sa mo ug dautan bro, ky mga anak man mo sa yawa, gipun-an na gyud hinoon nimo ang mga excuses pagpakasala. unya kung ang napasaylo na, nagbinuang ug balik, mahimo na pud siyang anak sa yawa? pasa pasa lng, ilis ilis birth certificate.
    Daghan kayo kag wala hibalui sa amoa, sa bible ug sa kamatuoran.

    First, di ba niingun ko nimo sa unang mga post nako nga ang bible mismo nagingun nga ang gipangsulti ni Paul iya ni Christ? (1 Cor 14:37, 2 Peter 3:15) Bisag si Peter mismo ni sulti ana. Ang imong grupo wala kabasa anang 2 Peter 3:15 no?

    Hisgut ta ug anak sa yawa ug unsay hitsura. Mao ney ingun sa bible "He who practices sin is of the devil, because the devil has sinned from the beginning. (1 John 3:. And said, O you who are full of all deceit and all unscrupulousness, son of the adevil, enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord? (Acts 13:10) Di ba this also discribes you? Hala pangatubang ug salamin para kita ka ug anak sa yawa. "Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me, for you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of men. "(Matthew 16:23). Tawhanun kaayo mo ug panghuna huna mao na di jud mu kasabot namu ug sa bible.


    kanus-a man tawon na mubalik oi? 2000 kapin na ka tuig. gipasaligan na pud mo ni Saul/Paul nga mubalik para sige tawon mo ug huwat. nya mintras naghuwat mo, entertainment sa gamay para wai laay, unya dili malikayan, pakasala sa gamay gamay lng. si Paul man tawon ang nagsaad ninyo, si Jesus ang mubulik unya si Paul ang ning saad hehehe.
    The Lord does not delay regarding the promise, as some count delay, but is long-suffering toward you, not intending that any perish but that fall advance to repentance. (2 Peter 3:10) Hinaut Jovs nakasabot ka aning bersikuluha.

  2. #262
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    So dili si Peter ang gipasabot dinha. Pero dili sad "attainment to ni Peter nga solid na kaayo"suma sa imong ingun. Ang rock nga gipasabot dinha kay si Christ "the Son of the living God." (Matt 16:16), "the rock was Christ." (1 Corinthians 10:4)
    si Peter had the same Christ as Jesus. mao na ang gihisgutan ni Jesus niya, ang iyang na attain.

  3. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    si Peter had the same Christ as Jesus. mao na ang gihisgutan ni Jesus niya, ang iyang na attain.
    Unsay "Peter had the same Christ as Jesus"? nga si Jesus, Christ gani Siya. Ingon ni Peter kang Jesus "You are the Christ" Matt 16:16. Pasagad lang jud ka. Understand the bible with the mind of the bible not using the mind of Levi H. Dowling. Because apparaently how you interpret it is the same as Levi H. Dowling.

    Jovs ayaw please pakauwawi imo kaugalingon in interpreting the bible.

  4. #264
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    So dili si Peter ang gipasabot dinha. Pero dili sad "attainment to ni Peter nga solid na kaayo"suma sa imong ingun. Ang rock nga gipasabot dinha kay si Christ "the Son of the living God." (Matt 16:16), "the rock was Christ." (1 Corinthians 10:4)
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    si Peter had the same Christ as Jesus. mao na ang gihisgutan ni Jesus niya, ang iyang na attain.
    preha ra diay inyo gipasabot: christ = bato

    lain2x lang inyo meaning sa christ sa akong pagsabot ninyo...

    kang @jovi "ang christ" (pwede daghanon)

    kita mga christian "si Christ" (usa ra si Christ)

    pagkalisora aboton gyud, para nako nga ordinaryo ra kaayo nahibaw-an

  5. #265
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    preha ra diay inyo gipasabot: christ = bato

    lain2x lang inyo meaning sa christ sa akong pagsabot ninyo...

    kang @jovi "ang christ" (pwede daghanon)

    kita mga christian "si Christ" (usa ra si Christ)

    pagkalisora aboton gyud, para nako nga ordinaryo ra kaayo nahibaw-an
    Kanang iyang pasabot sa Christ dinha kay dili si Jesus. Pero ang tudlo sa bible, ang Christ mao mismo si Jesus. Basaha ug usob Matthew 16:16

  6. #266
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Unsay "Peter had the same Christ as Jesus"? nga si Jesus, Christ gani Siya. Ingon ni Peter kang Jesus "You are the Christ" Matt 16:16. Pasagad lang jud ka. Understand the bible with the mind of the bible not using the mind of Levi H. Dowling. Because apparaently how you interpret it is the same as Levi H. Dowling.

    Jovs ayaw please pakauwawi imo kaugalingon in interpreting the bible.
    pero kita pay balihon bro nga nagsunod lang kuno sa pastor/pari...hahhah! obvious kayo nga si @jovs mismo nag agad lang kung unsay gisulti/brainwash sa iyang maestro!

  7. #267
    Quote Originally Posted by wenlove24 View Post
    OT:

    To all of you who have contributed to this thread: (although I'm not the firestarter...er...threadstarter heheh)

    Let us all come to an understanding that none of us are trying to forcefully recruit anyone for any denomination. So please stop accusing us that we are. Can we agree to disagree? This is merely a dialogue between belief systems (though topic is supposedly about gnostic and the occult). It is up to each individual how he takes in, chews, swallows and digests what he/she has come across here. Although I would appreciate it very much if we take away anything that is contrary to love.

    "An offended brother is more unyielding than a fortified city, and disputes are like the barred gates of a citadel."
    - Proverbs 18:19
    I totally agree with you bro! for me, ma apply na nato to any individual coz that is what the bible teaches....pero kung dunay teachings/beliefs which is contrary to what the word of God says i think insakto lang sad tingali to reprove them kung unsay insakto! at least taas2 ang atong standards sa truth.

    Romans 12:21
    Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

    Ephesians 5:11
    And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

  8. #268
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    hahahaha. ok lng na bro. sa school man gud, naa man gyud na. even silang Buddha, Muhammad, Krishna ug karon nga mga modern teachers. sa bible naa, katong si Peter ug lain nga disciple nga nakakita about Jesus ug sa iyang Christ, nya dili ipasaba nga si Jesus ang Messiah. Katong duha, puro nato naay Christ. Ang maka storya ni Jesus kaniadto ug sa karon nga panahon nga wala na siya diri sa kalibutan, kato ra pud naay Christ. Upon this "rock", pasabot, dili na bato nga gamiton para himoon ug simbahan, LOL, ang rock nga gipasabot ni Jesus, ang attainment to ni Peter nga solid na kaayo, daku na kaayo ug spiritual development si Peter, pwede na siya parepareha, katupong ni Jesus. sugot ra gani siya i persecute/crucify. kinsa nag persecute ni Peter? dili ba sila part sa paghimo sa Roman Catholic Church?
    Ayaw i-kuridas ang teachings sa buddhism, hinduism sa Christianity bro kay malawgaw ug samot imong mga doctrines diha! ang resulta mapaingon ta sa pantheism nuon, ginoo tanan!

  9. #269
    Originally Posted by wenlove24

    OT:

    To all of you who have contributed to this thread: (although I'm not the firestarter...er...threadstarter heheh)

    Let us all come to an understanding that none of us are trying to forcefully recruit anyone for any denomination. So please stop accusing us that we are. Can we agree to disagree? This is merely a dialogue between belief systems (though topic is supposedly about gnostic and the occult). It is up to each individual how he takes in, chews, swallows and digests what he/she has come across here. Although I would appreciate it very much if we take away anything that is contrary to love.

    "An offended brother is more unyielding than a fortified city, and disputes are like the barred gates of a citadel."
    - Proverbs 18:19
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    I totally agree with you bro! for me, ma apply na nato to any individual coz that is what the bible teaches....pero kung dunay teachings/beliefs which is contrary to what the word of God says i think insakto lang sad tingali to reprove them kung unsay insakto! at least taas2 ang atong standards sa truth.

    Romans 12:21
    Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

    Ephesians 5:11
    And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
    Forgive me bros if I am becoming so harsh in this thread in pointing erroneous points of people. But please be reminded, it is never my intention to bring you to any denomination. Coz I am not denominationalistic. I am for the Lord anf for His Church in the proper ground. The Lord never built a denomination. He built a church (Matt 16:18 ) Now, everyone who claimed to be a christian who is part of a denomination that has gone err, he better get out of that denomination because he cannot be part of that church and will not learn something that is real. A church is the expansion of Christ's person. Christ is both God and man, so the church must be both man and having the nature of God in him. This is why we have to be regenerated by believing in Christ as Saviour, Lord and life. Receive the Lord in your hearts and be saved. Love the Lord in His truth which is His holy word. The bible. Be nourish by Him in His word until He comes back. Say I love you Lord Jesus, I love you Lord Jesus, I love you Lord Jesus. I give myself unto you.

  10. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Forgive me bros if I am becoming so harsh in this thread in pointing erroneous points of people. But please be reminded, it is never my intention to bring you to any denomination. Coz I am not denominationalistic. I am for the Lord anf for His Church in the proper ground. The Lord never built a denomination. He built a church (Matt 16:18 ) Now, everyone who claimed to be a christian who is part of a denomination that has gone err, he better get out of that denomination because he cannot be part of that church and will not learn something that is real. A church is the expansion of Christ's person. Christ is both God and man, so the church must be both man and having the nature of God in him. This is why we have to be regenerated by believing in Christ as Saviour, Lord and life. Receive the Lord in your hearts and be saved. Love the Lord in His truth which is His holy word. The bible. Be nourish by Him in His word until He comes back. Say I love you Lord Jesus, I love you Lord Jesus, I love you Lord Jesus. I give myself unto you.
    That's right bro!
    Neither do i manghagad sa akong religion/grupo kay sa tinuod nag atong personal relationship with Jesus Christ is what matters most. If we think we're growing spiritually sa atong current fellowship padayon ta, if not naa ra jud na nato kung kuntento lang sad ta sa atong spiritual life nga stagnant.

    blessings mga brods in Christ!

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