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    Mao jud ni ang kasumpakian sa gituohan ni jovi ug sa gitudlo ni Jesus. Moingon pa siyang nagtudlo daw si Jesus ug reincarnation pero sa parable ni Jesus about ni Lazaro ug ang dato makita nato nga wa jud niya gitudlo ang reincarnation. Kahinumdoman nga ang dato namatay. Ang dato ninghanyo nga mobalik para pasidan-an niya iyang mga igsoon pero wa jud pabalika. Kun nagtudlo pa si Jesus aning reincarnation gipabalik na unta to ang dato sa iyang parable pero wa man. Petition denied man.

  2. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Mao jud ni ang kasumpakian sa gituohan ni jovi ug sa gitudlo ni Jesus. Moingon pa siyang nagtudlo daw si Jesus ug reincarnation pero sa parable ni Jesus about ni Lazaro ug ang dato makita nato nga wa jud niya gitudlo ang reincarnation. Kahinumdoman nga ang dato namatay. Ang dato ninghanyo nga mobalik para pasidan-an niya iyang mga igsoon pero wa jud pabalika. Kun nagtudlo pa si Jesus aning reincarnation gipabalik na unta to ang dato sa iyang parable pero wa man. Petition denied man.
    ok bro, pasabton ta ka unsa ang reincarnation nga gitudlo namo, bisag dili pa ka mutoo nga si Jesus nitudlo ana. Ang kanang imong example, dili na reincarnation. Ang reincarnation matao ug balik as in mubata ug balik, kung pinoy ka karon possible matawo ka nga amerkano or french or bisag unsa, then kung kristyano ka karon, possible nga muslim ka, buddhist or ma atheist. then depende pud na sa overall karma, bad or good.

    sa imong example, same body ra man, so dili pwde, ky patay naman iyang body. plus naa pud na number of years nga giconsider usa pa maka reincarnate. naay temporary place ana para sa mo reincarnatay nga soul.

    akong basahon na Lazaro, unsay verse ana bro? It could be naay teaching sa sulod ana.

  3. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ok bro, pasabton ta ka unsa ang reincarnation nga gitudlo namo, bisag dili pa ka mutoo nga si Jesus nitudlo ana. Ang kanang imong example, dili na reincarnation. Ang reincarnation matao ug balik as in mubata ug balik, kung pinoy ka karon possible matawo ka nga amerkano or french or bisag unsa, then kung kristyano ka karon, possible nga muslim ka, buddhist or ma atheist. then depende pud na sa overall karma, bad or good.

    sa imong example, same body ra man, so dili pwde, ky patay naman iyang body. plus naa pud na number of years nga giconsider usa pa maka reincarnate. naay temporary place ana para sa mo reincarnatay nga soul.

    akong basahon na Lazaro, unsay verse ana bro? It could be naay teaching sa sulod ana.
    ayay Jovi posible ra di ie? asa na man tong prof nimo kung posibilidad ra man di ie

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ok bro, pasabton ta ka unsa ang reincarnation nga gitudlo namo, bisag dili pa ka mutoo nga si Jesus nitudlo ana. Ang kanang imong example, dili na reincarnation. Ang reincarnation matao ug balik as in mubata ug balik, kung pinoy ka karon possible matawo ka nga amerkano or french or bisag unsa, then kung kristyano ka karon, possible nga muslim ka, buddhist or ma atheist. then depende pud na sa overall karma, bad or good.

    sa imong example, same body ra man, so dili pwde, ky patay naman iyang body. plus naa pud na number of years nga giconsider usa pa maka reincarnate. naay temporary place ana para sa mo reincarnatay nga soul.

    akong basahon na Lazaro, unsay verse ana bro? It could be naay teaching sa sulod ana.
    I found this really interesting blog that I thought you should read. I can't copy paste everything so I'll just put a salient point here and then you can open the actual site and read everything. I hope you take the time.

    <>< <>< <><
    The Logical problems with Reincarnation

    According to the doctrine, when we sin, we store up "Karma" and then, in the next life, we pay for the Karma we racked up in the last life through suffering and pain. If that was so, it would be an endless circle because we are never sinless and thus as we pay for Karma, we are racking up more. In fact, the Tibetan Buddhists realized this logical dilemma and they solve it by teaching that in order to exit the endless circle of lifetimes on earth, an individual must become a monk and live in a monastery. Presumably the simple life would prevent them from racking up more Karma so at the end of THAT life, they could move on and break the endless cycle.

    A nice idea however, for those who of us have LIVED in convents and monasteries, even the most cloistered life does NOT prevent us from sinning since the affinity to sin comes from within. So basically, the monastery idea does not work for ending current Karma.

    And since still racking up Karma, we would never exit from an endless circle of lifetimes is not only illogical (the world WILL likely end someday) but also against Catholic teaching which says that we are to live and then die to be resurrected with Jesus.

    Another problem with the "Karma" idea is that if we COULD pay for our sins, why would we need a Savior? So in an insidious manner, Karma reduces Jesus to a teacher rather than a Savior and thus questions the Divinity of Christ. But if Christ were NOT divine why then did the life and death of this obscure citizen of the dirt town of Nazareth, change the course of the world so completely that time is measured before and after his birth?

    The doctrine of Reincarnation suggests that Jesus was probably a reincarnation. In fact, some religions teach this about Jesus i.e. that Buddha was a reincarnation of Jesus or vice versa. Since Buddha, though a holy man never claimed Divinity, this too would tend to erode the Christian belief that Jesus is the only Son of the one true God.

    Finally, the doctrine of Karma suggests that our works are enough to earn us points or merit and there is really no evidence of this at all since our works are often riddled with self aggrandizement, lack of humility and simple imperfection (to put it mildly).

    Net-abbey.org The Catholic Case against reincarnation
    Last edited by wenlove24; 12-27-2012 at 07:35 PM.

  5. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ok bro, pasabton ta ka unsa ang reincarnation nga gitudlo namo, bisag dili pa ka mutoo nga si Jesus nitudlo ana. Ang kanang imong example, dili na reincarnation. Ang reincarnation matao ug balik as in mubata ug balik, kung pinoy ka karon possible matawo ka nga amerkano or french or bisag unsa, then kung kristyano ka karon, possible nga muslim ka, buddhist or ma atheist. then depende pud na sa overall karma, bad or good.

    sa imong example, same body ra man, so dili pwde, ky patay naman iyang body. plus naa pud na number of years nga giconsider usa pa maka reincarnate. naay temporary place ana para sa mo reincarnatay nga soul.

    akong basahon na Lazaro, unsay verse ana bro? It could be naay teaching sa sulod ana.
    Buhatan nasad nimog storya? cge buhati lang I'm sure e deny ra sad gihapon na sa bible.

    Luke 16:19-31

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    ayay Jovi posible ra di ie? asa na man tong prof nimo kung posibilidad ra man di ie
    Possible ba pud kaha mahimong umang? hehehe

  7. #157
    May the Lord will find a way to each one of us here so He will reign within our hearts as a King. May He will bring us into a full realization of the truth. Those of us who patiently answer to affirm and critique faiths may find the Lord nevertheless.

    Kay burag wala may nidaug nato dinhi...Si Jovi, dili muangkon nga sayop siya sa iyang gituohan. Nga walay reincarnation. Wala juy daug mga bro bisag magpangabot pa ta.

    We cannot even establish that the bible should be our sole authority for teaching........

  8. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Possible ba pud kaha mahimong umang? hehehe
    posible oi suwaye read back dba engon xa posible mahimong ok-ok depende sa karma daw...unya ako mahimong arabong bayot kay bugal-bugalon daw ko...hehehe
    Last edited by slabdans; 12-27-2012 at 08:10 PM.

  9. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    posible oi suwaye read back dba engon xa posible mahimong ok-ok depende sa karma daw...unya ako mahimong arabong bayot kay bugal-bugalon daw ko...hehehe
    Sorry kung muapil apil ko ani kay kalataw-an man gud...pero pwedi sad siguro oi...kay depende man sad kunu sa "good karma" na.

  10. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    posible oi suwaye read back dba engon xa posible mahimong ok-ok depende sa karma daw...unya ako mahimong arabong bayot kay bugal-bugalon daw ko...hehehe
    slabs, bantay kas imung next life...mahimu ra ba daw kang arabong bayot...hehehehe...
    ako ingnun akong mga anak or apo ba kaha puhon nga dili mu abroad sa middle-east basin mapagan nimu...Lol

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