If Operation Barbarossa wasn't launched, Would've Nazi Germany won WWII?

[jangska]

praning jud tos hitler. unsa kahay nawng sa kalibotan kung naka daug pa sila.

[bleedingboi]

The miscalculation of the Nazis during the Operation Barbarossa struggle.






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The German POWs

[g0dmenuelz]

Nag arms racing og trenching na ang Russia samtang nag war pa ang Germany sa uban nations sa Europe. It's been said na the alliance was just a pause or a temporary peace between the two nations to let them build up forces, but they both know they will be at war in one way or another but the question is when. Then Hitler backstabs Stalin with blitz and there was no turning back.

Well Niponggo jud ta ron, while Russia will be annex by Germany and the cold war will be between the US (west) and the Axis in the east (China will be annex). The Iron curtain will split the world apart. And it will be a matter of time before the Axis' influence will spread in the West. Japan will divide and conquer Asia.

[bleedingboi]

Well Niponggo jud ta ron, while Russia will be annex by Germany and the cold war will be between the US (west) and the Axis in the east (China will be annex). The Iron curtain will split the world apart. And it will be a matter of time before the Axis' influence will spread in the West. Japan will divide and conquer Asia.

The US would have a really hard time, considering the Nazi plan with Mexico decades before (Zimmerman's telegram) requesting Mexico to start a war with the US with the help of Germany's weaponry and battle expertise. It will be like, Japan on one front and Mexico on another.

[iron_cross]

regarding the topic, we could never tell but Hitler was very obsessed in crushing the communist because it was one of his ultimate goals: to get rid of Bolsheviks and communists...Hitler invaded Poland in early Sept 1939 together with Russia. They divided Poland between themselves(Russia and Nazi Germany), this was necessary so that the Nazis will have an open border towards Russia..for the OB(Operation Barbarrosa)..

anyways, even if Nazi Germany didn't invade Russia--i think the Americans and British commonwealth Nations will still be able to defeat Hitler's forces in Western Europe...

[prukutung]

yup, America is a bigger superpower than Germany at that time.. Hitler was even a bit careful waging war against them kai if magbinuang sila sa States then they will be waging war against 3 superpowers.. bisan pa ug nakaabot jud sila sa Moscow (which is, hapit jud), still pildehon sila to the fact nga capturing Russia would mean losing a great quantity of force and lamado na ang US sa H-bomb race,

but what if na succesful jud sila sa Operation Barbarossa? ang reason ra ni Hitler kai they need a bigger living space and Russia, especially sa Kiev, kai rich in resources needed to win the war. If they really did capture Russia kai maglisud jud ang allies ug end sa war sa western theater.. Britain was suffering from heavy loses, only the United States and Russia were capable of ending it at that time,

Hitler was destined to lose the war, Germany is a small nation, and they indeed need a bigger space for air, and to do that kailangan jud nila kuhaon ang Russia which is not an easy option,

[snipereyes05]

kng wa nag dali-dali c hitler para ma conquer ang russia naay possibility na mu daog cla tungod ky iya gi dali2x nya nag tuo sd xa makuha daun niya ang russia wa niya gi huna2x ang "russian winter" n maoy nag cripple s iya mga armies...oh well..if di sd mapildi c hitler di sd matuman ang prophecy regarding s "Israel" as a nation...it was after the war na ang "Israel" gi proclaim blik as a nation exactly as what the prophecy told..

[snipereyes05]

nice thread TS. It would have been likely that the Nazi's would have won considering that around that time hapit na nila na perfect ang jet engine as new propulsion system sa ila mga aircraft. The term dog fight would have meant a Nazi fighter plane punching holes on any enemy aircraft.

i agree na cla nka una s jet engine as a propulsion system but sad to say di sd ko agree na mo dominate cla sa air...cuz P-51D mustang although it wasn't run by jet engine was capable putting ME 262 to the ground...considering the P-51D Mustangs did a lot of damage to Mig 15...they shot 12 Mig-15 a jet propelled aircraft during korean war..

[bleedingboi]

i agree na cla nka una s jet engine as a propulsion system but sad to say di sd ko agree na mo dominate cla sa air...cuz P-51D mustang although it wasn't run by jet engine was capable putting ME 262 to the ground...considering the P-51D Mustangs did a lot of damage to Mig 15...they shot 12 Mig-15 a jet propelled aircraft during korean war..

I agree.

But please don't forget this mighty little sucker. -----> Focke-Wulf Fw-190

One of the best fighter planes of the Luftwaffe during WWII, no Allied pilot who fought in the skies of Europe will forget the feats of the Fw-190. Introduced in September 1941, this fighter shocked RAF pilots and inflicted cruel punishment. Kung makadungog ang mga Brits ug Americans ani nga plane, mukurog gud ilang itlog.

[froggybeau]

Naay chance na ma-conquer ni Hitler ang Europe if wla nila gisulong ang Russia.. Naa koy na-watch sa Nat Geo, nalipay daw c Churchill na ni-apil na ang US sa war para naay motabang nila so meaning maglisud jud cla kung wla ang US. na-conquer na bya to ang France so ang last kay UK nalang..