GNOSTIC GOSPELS and the OCCULT AGENDA!

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In short @jovs, what you are into is a COUNTERFEIT CHRISTIANITY!

Kung wala lang ni gisuwat daan sa bible bro, motuo mi anang imoha but and nakanindot sa mga Christians who knows whats inside the bible, kay dili na mailad anang butanga....dili lang kung pina imoha pa "belief2". kay mao sad ni ang makatabang nato how to determine a false doctrine and fake forms of Christianity.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

In short @jovs, what you are into is a COUNTERFEIT CHRISTIANITY!

Kung wala lang ni gisuwat daan sa bible bro, motuo mi anang imoha but and nakanindot sa mga Christians who knows whats inside the bible, kay dili na mailad anang butanga....dili lang kung pina imoha pa "belief2". kay mao sad ni ang makatabang nato how to determine a false doctrine and fake forms of Christianity.

it's up to you bro, i have already explained everything. Ako na hinoon ang belief2x. asa kaha, ang religion or a school? We all know, secret lessons were not written, they are directly taught to a student. Sumala gud, nasuwat ba ang bible during the lifetime of Jesus? they were not supposed to be written but gusto lagi kaayo sa mga Romans, nasulat and nagamit gyud nila. But the real teachings that were supposed to be secret only, na publish sa bible. But nasabtan ba? wala. remain secret. hehehe. simple ra gyud kaayo. ladlad na gyud kaayo ang bible, pero secret lng gihapon ky wala man nasabtan. pero daghan gyud ang nailad sa sayop nga interpretation. Samot pa ang uban nga wala nasulat diha nga mga teachings gihapon ni Jesus, samot pa to nga dili masabtan. Nganlan na lng gud bisag unsa bisag walai kasayuran. Bisan pa ug nganlan nimo ug fake ang original Christianity bro, it is still the original and authentic Christianity that Jesus the Christ was the master teacher. Unlike sa inyong Christianity nga Saul/Paul version. dili na lng nako nganlan ug fake, original lng gihapon pero Paul origin.

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it's up to you bro, i have already explained everything. Ako na hinoon ang belief2x. asa kaha, ang religion or a school? We all know, secret lessons were not written, they are directly taught to a student. Sumala gud, nasuwat ba ang bible during the lifetime of Jesus? they were not supposed to be written but gusto lagi kaayo sa mga Romans, nasulat and nagamit gyud nila. But the real teachings that were supposed to be secret only, na publish sa bible. But nasabtan ba? wala. remain secret. hehehe. simple ra gyud kaayo. ladlad na gyud kaayo ang bible, pero secret lng gihapon ky wala man nasabtan. pero daghan gyud ang nailad sa sayop nga interpretation. Samot pa ang uban nga wala nasulat diha nga mga teachings gihapon ni Jesus, samot pa to nga dili masabtan. Nganlan na lng gud bisag unsa bisag walai kasayuran. Bisan pa ug nganlan nimo ug fake ang original Christianity bro, it is still the original and authentic Christianity that Jesus the Christ was the master teacher. Unlike sa inyong Christianity nga Saul/Paul version. dili na lng nako nganlan ug fake, original lng gihapon pero Paul origin.

Tubaga lang sa akong pangutana bro:

1) Do you believe in the virgin birth of Christ
2) Do you believe Jesus has the power to raise the dead
3) Do you believe in his resurrection
4) Give specifics unsa na imong impersonal God
5) Kinsa ka on your previous life kung naa mankay complete knowledge sa imong reincarnation

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Jovs,

An answer to your 1st paragraph;
The noun "christian" is a biblical term (acts 11:26). Is the same bible who mentioned that we cannot be someone else aside of being "christian" (a man belonging to Christ) "Where there cannot be Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free man, but Christ is all and in all." (Col 3:11). The Apostle Paul himself also says this way "For when someone says, I am of Paul, ...are you not men of flesh?"(1 Cor 3:4). So muhangyo ko nimu nga insaktuhun nimu ang imo pangutana nako. Because, to ask me if I am a Paulian Christian is a wrong question, because I cannot be a "Paulian". "And what is Paul? Minister through whom you believed, even as the Lord gave..."(1 Cor 3:5). Because according to Paul His teaching does not originated from him (For him to have Paulinians that belongs to him) but from the Lord, Paul said "For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you (1 Cor 11:23). In fact Paul said "If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him fully know the things which I write to you, that they are the commandment of the Lord." (1 Cor 14:37). Dia pa jud Jovs "If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored. (1 Cor 14:3. Paul says that he who ignore his writings, while his writings is from the Lord, will be ignored too. Jovs, please read the bible at once to draw a balance and accurate concusion of what to believe as knowledge and reject as knowledge.
An answer to the 2nd paragraph;
You are seperating the confusion between knowledge and belief. Jovs, kung dili ka mutoo sa bible nga kasaligan sya as source of knowledge for a belief it's up to you, but a christian (as was called in the bible) is believer because the bible was written based on facts and reality that's why the bible says that "God..desires all men to be saved and to come to the full knowledge of the truth." (1 Timothy 2:4). Even without investigating history in artifacts and infallible proofs, just by reading the bible, you will realize that there is no other book that can compare the bible. Its content is incomparable (Here I'm not stating a belief, but an appreciation). I hope you can get a copy of the bible and read it.

Hinaut unta ni take time ka pag read sa ako post Jovs and take time to understand it also.

Acts (Paul mn seguro gihapon na) - christian - a man belonging to Christ? sorry, but that's not the correct Christ as taught by Jesus, it is a Paulian Christ. Unsa ang Christ nimo? human or not?

Kanang mga verse nga imong gipang mention, kinupya na lng na ni Paul, pero kasabot ba siya ana? wala, ky dili man siya direct student ni Jesus or student sa direct student ni Jesus. Kung mutoo mo sa iyang gipangsangyaw then you are a Paulian Christian. Ang Christ nga gitudlo ni Jesus, dili siya, dili iyang physical body, kung dili ang naabot sa iyang soul. Unsa man ang version ni Paul? Si Jesus ug Christ usa ra, Christ is personal, sometimes, pag-moingon nga Christ, refers to Jesus na, his body not his soul. Unsa ang warning ni Jesus, when someone will use my name, and say I am Christ. unsa man ang gisangyaw ni Paul, si Jesus ky si Christ. Nagwarn nga kung naay moingon nga Christ is here or there, dili tinood, ky kabalo man ang mga direct students nga dili person ang Christ. Pero unsay gibuhat ni Paul, kita kuno siya ni Jesus (Christ para ninyo) ang sulaw daw kaayo, and nakigstorya si Jesus niya. so naa na daan sa warning ni Jesus, Christ is here or there. Ang usa ka Roman nga paganao, tigpersecute ug mga Christians, ni storya nga nakigkita ug nakigstorya si Jesus nila, nikalit ka usab nahimong Christian, there must be something. of course klaro kaayo ky lahi iyang version sa Christ. All the schools of Christianity, moingon gyud the greatest liar in history is Saul/Paul. So any statement gikan niya is not valuable to Christian students for they are lies, adapted from the original Christianity without any direct experience and just merely preaching.

do you know the difference between a knowledge and a belief? do you know the difference between a school and a religion? how about a teacher and a preacher? how about a student and believer?

as what i have said, all the secret teachings were not written for protection, that's to the school and to the reader/non student as well. If you will check it, the bible was not written during the time of Jesus.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Tubaga lang sa akong pangutana bro:

1) Do you believe in the virgin birth of Christ
2) Do you believe Jesus has the power to raise the dead
3) Do you believe in his resurrection
4) Give specifics unsa na imong impersonal God
5) Kinsa ka on your previous life kung naa mankay complete knowledge sa imong reincarnation

1. yes - but i know how he was conceived, it was explained, and who really is his father
2. yes - and it is not only him
3. no - Jesus did not resurrect after his known crucifixion, he was raised from death, with physical body, dili siya makita kung spirito/soul siya sa iyang mga direct students, death was part of his escape plan, that crucifixion by the Romans, he was accussed of rebellion, and that was a forced crucifixion. He had another crucifixion that was voluntary, it is in the bible.
4. Impersonal God - God has no limits, no one has ever known the totality of God, even Buddha and Jesus
5. i have complete knowledge about the Law of Reincarnation, it goes with the Law of Karma. But if you are talking about my past life, i am working with that, we are taught how to do it, and only that it will take years to fully know the previous lives. and while we don't who know who we are in our past lives, it is not important right now for the current life. What's important is the understanding of the laws and how they can be understood and applicable in the current life. Like unsa ka ko karon, kasabot ko bec of Law of Karma and Law of Reincarnation. And by the way, Jesus taught that, it is in the bible but the full details are not there only in the school. Paul will never understand Reincarnation for he was not a direct student of Jesus.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Jovs, I'm sorry again but I have to contradict you with this to help you. The bible is actually complete to "fully know the certainty of the things" (Luke 1:4). However it does not include those are not needed because "if they were written one by one, I suppose that not even the world itself could contain the books written." (John 21:25). But the bible in completeness was "written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing, you may have life in His name."(John 20:31) So what was written in the bible is what is enough for a man who believes into to have life eternal, which life is the life of God. Ang rason nganu walay labot ang supposed gnostic gospels sa bible, dili tungod kay para dili ta makasabot sa bible kung wala kay labot sa orig christianity(Kalatawan nang argumentuha), kung dili tungod sukwahi maning gnostic books sa consistency sa bible. As I have said sa first post nako, the gnostic books teaches a different Christ which was already revealed in the bible.

as explained nako, ang secret teachings ni Jesus were not written to protect them. When diay nasulat ang bible? buhi pa si Jesus?

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Bro jovs, im not sure if you are competing your words with Jesus Christ's. Unsa imong description lagi anang impersonal God, be specific! sige kag ingon nga beyond personal....ang PERSONAL GOD dunay Intellect & Will as what Jesus taught. Giunsa man nimo pagkabalo nga sayop ang naa sa bible about PERSONAL GOD? is your 1% knowledge complete? Show us evidence/more detailed explaination sa imong reincarnation bro. Kinsa manka sa imong past life, even sa previous lang kung naa man galing may complete knowledge anang butanga?

ako na gi explain ang reincarnation, naa gani sa bible. it is part of the original teachings of Jesus. God is unlimited, no one has ever known the totality of God. If God is personal, that means naay limitation. Do you think God has limitations that you can say personal?

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Jovi bisan pag mag mangugat kag sulti diha nga ng imoha ang orig adto lang gihapon ko sa bible
kanang imong gipangyawyaw puro contradiction sa Teachings ni Jesus
Matthew 24
13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

sure ka? basaha kuno diha sa bible ug naa ba ang vatican wala man gani nimo tubaga ako pangutan bahi ni Paul sa pikas thread

naa sa babaw bro o, gospel of the kingdom. kinsa man ang nag limit nga mao ra ni nga mga gospels ang i include sa bible ug ang uban nga gospels walai labot, dili ba ang Rome? so gospel of the kingdom of Rome. Kung apilon tanan gospel, mao na ang gospel sa Kingdom of God.

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1. yes - but i know how he was conceived, it was explained, and who really is his father
2. yes - and it is not only him
3. no - Jesus did not resurrect after his known crucifixion, he was raised from death, with physical body, dili siya makita kung spirito/soul siya sa iyang mga direct students, death was part of his escape plan, that crucifixion by the Romans, he was accussed of rebellion, and that was a forced crucifixion. He had another crucifixion that was voluntary, it is in the bible.
4. Impersonal God - God has no limits, no one has ever known the totality of God, even Buddha and Jesus
5. i have complete knowledge about the Law of Reincarnation, it goes with the Law of Karma. But if you are talking about my past life, i am working with that, we are taught how to do it, and only that it will take years to fully know the previous lives. and while we don't who know who we are in our past lives, it is not important right now for the current life. What's important is the understanding of the laws and how they can be understood and applicable in the current life. Like unsa ka ko karon, kasabot ko bec of Law of Karma and Law of Reincarnation. And by the way, Jesus taught that, it is in the bible but the full details are not there only in the school. Paul will never understand Reincarnation for he was not a direct student of Jesus.

GNOSTICS, a COUNTERFEIT CHRISTIANITY!

Faith Defenders | THE GNOSTIC GOSPELS

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

GNOSTIC CHRISTIANITY!

Faith Defenders | THE GNOSTIC GOSPELS

wala ka kabasa bro? FAITH DEFENDERS. faith ra gyud siya, maong dapat i defend. Ang knowledge, there is no need to defend.