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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    nya kadtung mga Scientist nga Theist, below average to ilang intelligence?
    Dili. KyoRebirth did not say all scientists are atheists

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    you mean to say these people's intelligence is below average?

    List of Christian thinkers in science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    and these people who converted to Christianity from aetheism have renounced their intelligence?

    List of converts to Christianity from atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    i hope i am making a point here.
    Gamay ra kaayo na sila noy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    Gamay ra kaayo na sila noy.
    di ra pud guro mao ra na cla nakalista tanan bai..hehehe
    ang mga sikat lang na...

    i would have been included in the list of God and religion haters who embraced Christianity if i was famous..haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    Dili. KyoRebirth did not say all scientists are atheists
    mao pud but i think he may have mentioned that it requires a person's intelligence to be above average to embrace aetheism.
    and by your statement supported by fact. not all scientists are aetheists...
    as per kyoRebirth's statement, what does that say about scientists who are Theist?
    or what does that say about Theists in general? Below average ang Intelligence? and irrational?

    i am a Theist, i think my TOR and IQ Test results would contradict his statement regarding Theists..hehehe...
    di pa gani ko Scientist bai...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    This reminds me of a script from the movie Signs by M.Night Shyamalan. Where a retired reverend was having a conversation with his brother about miracles:

    "People break down into two groups. When they experience something lucky, group number one sees it as more than luck, more than coincidence. They see it as a sign, evidence, that there is someone up there, watching out for them. Group number two sees it as just pure luck. Just a happy turn of chance. I'm sure the people in group number two are looking at those fourteen lights in a very suspicious way. For them, the situation is a fifty-fifty. Could be bad, could be good. But deep down, they feel that whatever happens, they're on their own. And that fills them with fear. Yeah, there are those people. But there's a whole lot of people in group number one. When they see those fourteen lights, they're looking at a miracle. And deep down, they feel that whatever's going to happen, there will be someone there to help them. And that fills them with hope. See what you have to ask yourself is what kind of person are you? Are you the kind that sees signs, that sees miracles? Or do you believe that people just get lucky? Or, look at the question this way: Is it possible that there are no coincidences?"
    Yup, but the question is
    who placed the light up there.

    I don't think that the light was brought out of nowhere.
    As a human being could you please expound how is it so.

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    @Tirong-say

    prehas sa istorya sa una nga naay scientist nga aetheist nga na amazed sa pagkabuhat sa Solar System Model..
    he then asked his fellow scientist who is a theist kung kinsa nagbuhat sa nindut kaau nga model sa atong solar system..
    the other scientst replied...walay gabuhat ana...nitunga lang ug kalit...
    the aetheist scientist then said,ha? ing ana kanindut ug detalyado? way nagbuhat?...hehehe

    the very foundation of a Christian's moral values is what Christ said about Loving others as ourselves..
    it is very powerful as that teaching/commandment would have elimated hatred,anger,lust,greed,selfishness etc
    if each one would commit in following and practicing the said commandment.

    such beautiful moral guides like the ones that Jesus and other prophets taught
    i think would not appear by themselves like the solar system model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    mao pud but i think he may have mentioned that it requires a person's intelligence to be above average to embrace aetheism.
    and by your statement supported by fact. not all scientists are aetheists...
    as per kyoRebirth's statement, what does that say about scientists who are Theist?
    or what does that say about Theists in general? Below average ang Intelligence? and irrational?

    i am a Theist, i think my TOR and IQ Test results would contradict his statement regarding Theists..hehehe...
    di pa gani ko Scientist bai...
    Naa man gud daghan study niana brad noy wherein they found out the more intellectual ang tao, the lesser ang iyang pagka religious. I don't have the link as of now but i'm sure it's all over google nalang. Naa pa graphic representation ana makita nimo kung wa ko masayop "inversely proportional" ang graph niya.. hehe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    Yup, but the question is
    who placed the light up there.

    I don't think that the light was brought out of nowhere.
    As a human being could you please expound how is it so.
    Is there really a need or is there basis in even stating "WHO"

    Well it could be anybody's guess.. could be an "IT", or a dimension that cannot be described by stating "WHO"

    The first-cause argument is very weak in proving the existence of a god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    If God is real and if He created the universe and everything else...i think it's just right and logical
    to not be able to grasp all sides of morality.
    and if that's the case, what Jesus said about being blessed for believing despite of not seeing would make perfect sense.
    personally i think Faith bridges the gap between what is infinite and finite.

    though it is really posibile that absolutes doesnt exist,
    but i think we can both agree bai that until there is uncertainty
    the posiblity that it Does is always parallel..
    As for me it will always be that there is no absolution when it comes to morality.. we have the right to doubt if it is uncertain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    Yup, but the question is
    who placed the light up there.

    I don't think that the light was brought out of nowhere.
    As a human being could you please expound how is it so.
    if you'll ask the question who? that will only add up to the confusion.. the question there is how?

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