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    Default Re: How Did The Concept (or idea) of Atheism Change Your Life?


    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    So its based on what you think? or individual Atheist thinks?
    what do you mean?

  2. #352

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyoRebirth View Post
    It takes above average intelligence and rational thinking to move out from an age old belief which people are used to, especially religion. That's why most scientists are atheists..
    I hope I'm making a point right here.
    nya kadtung mga Scientist nga Theist, below average to ilang intelligence?

  3. #353

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    what do you mean?
    When Atheist follow and apply a Principle, is it based on what? based on what he thinks?(you say theres No universal Principles) OR based from the Accepted or established Belief from other people?

  4. #354

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    When Atheist follow and apply a Principle, is it based on what? based on what he thinks?(you say theres No universal Principles) OR based from the Accepted or established Belief from other people?
    First of all id like to point out that im speaking in behalf of myself..

    I think ive explained it. It is based on consolidated principles from books, direct and vicarious experiences, teachings, and other sources.. If "thou shalt not kill" principle is accepted or becomes an established form of belief, then it becomes a guiding principle to people who will accept it, but that doesnt mean it wont be challenged by the individual's differing principles, people will always have different extent outlook as to what, why, how and when we should not kill..

    Principles will always be challenged no matter how firmly established it is.. That is why there is no such thing as universal principle, coz people will always have their own varying guiding Principles, they may share a few but as to it's variation it is differing.
    Last edited by Xian120; 12-18-2012 at 04:10 PM.

  5. #355

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    First of all id like to point out that im speaking in behalf of myself..

    I think ive explained it. It is based on consolidated principles from books, direct and vicarious experiences, teachings, and other sources.. If "thou shalt not kill" principle is accepted or becomes an established form of belief, then it becomes a guiding principle to people who will accept it, but that doesnt mean it wont be challenged by the individual's differing principles, people will always have different extent outlook as to what, why, how and when we should not kill..

    Principles will always be challenged no matter how firmly established it is.. That is why there is no such thing as universal principle, coz people will always have their own varying guiding Principles, they may share a few but as to it's variation it is differing.
    but personally, what is your personal basis of accepting a certain principles? I mean why did you accept that principle, unsa imu gibasehan? Science? or other considerations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyoRebirth View Post
    It takes above average intelligence and rational thinking to move out from an age old belief which people are used to, especially religion. That's why most scientists are atheists..


    I hope I'm making a point right here.
    you mean to say these people's intelligence is below average?

    List of Christian thinkers in science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    and these people who converted to Christianity from aetheism have renounced their intelligence?

    List of converts to Christianity from atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    i hope i am making a point here.
    Last edited by noy; 12-18-2012 at 05:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    . That is why there is no such thing as universal principle, coz people will always have their own varying guiding Principles, they may share a few but as to it's variation it is differing.
    bai personally i think there is a universal and absolute principle..
    it's just that no one really knows the entirety of it

    that's why we find converts and people abandoning their faith...
    Last edited by noy; 12-18-2012 at 05:33 PM.

  8. #358

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    but personally, what is your personal basis of accepting a certain principles? I mean why did you accept that principle, unsa imu gibasehan? Science? or other considerations.
    i accept philosophies based on it's implications and the effect it might give me and towards others if i so apply it.. morality standards of my time and society would be my basis, though not totally..

  9. #359

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    bai personally i think there is a universal and absolute principle..
    it's just that no one really knows the entirety of it

    that's why we find converts and people abandoning their faith...
    I think the reason why nobody know it's entirety is that it doesn't exist.. morality standards always have been and always will perpetually change..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    I think the reason why nobody know it's entirety is that it doesn't exist.. morality standards always have been and always will perpetually change..
    If God is real and if He created the universe and everything else...i think it's just right and logical
    to not be able to grasp all sides of morality.
    and if that's the case, what Jesus said about being blessed for believing despite of not seeing would make perfect sense.
    personally i think Faith bridges the gap between what is infinite and finite.

    though it is really posibile that absolutes doesnt exist,
    but i think we can both agree bai that until there is uncertainty
    the posiblity that it Does is always parallel..

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