The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

[slabdans]

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ni explain nako ug soul bro, back read na lng.

ang interpretation sa atong brain sa nakita sa atong mata is limited ky mao man iyang programming, mao nga illusion lng. but the true object is not what we see. naka create lng na ug form, colors, ug other properties bec of the interpretation sa atong brain. kung dunay open ang third eye, mao ra to ang makakita sa tinood gyud nga object, ug wala nai illusion. di ba kita tanan, including living and non living things, are composed of atoms, we are all energy, but kana dili na makita sa atong mata ug masabtan sa atong brain. ug nganong naka form man ang atoms/energy, that's in the programming of our brain. if you can go beyond the limitation of your brain, and have open third eye, then you will see energies, you will see ahem, secret

kapoi na back read oi e sulti na lng gud special request naman nako na

kana bang direct to the point way daghan pasakalye

[SioDenz]

That's from God, remember ingon si Jesus, dili na iyang mga teachings kung dili from God nga nagpadala niya. Si Jesus messenger ra ni God. But kulangan na na diha bro, daghan man nga gospels, from the original teachings ni Jesus nga wala gi lakip diha like Gospel of Thomas ug daghan pa. But naa lng gihapon ang third eye, karma, reincarnation, law of grace ug uban pa. but to support unta ana, naa unta na didto sa uban nga gospels. sa inyong church wala na ky para dili supak sa kaugalingon nga interpretations nga gusto sa pinaka una ninyong preachers. but sa original christianity, naa gihapon dinha, ky ang studyante tudlu-an man ug maayo sa teacher, i test, ipa experiment gyud using a special laboratory. kung unsa na nga laboratory secret lng sa.

Hiliga jud nimug secret oi, mura man kag teleserye.

Bitaw, naa kay sampe dha regarding anang nakasuwat sa Gospel of Thomas nga wa sa Bibliya karun? sample lan

[amazed]

Ever ask, 'God where are you?' Here's what you can count on God for.

[Breakeven]

@jovi

Bro I am not a teacher, i am only a student. I don't have any authority to teach students.

Of course bro kay kuwang pa ang imong reincarnation. How could we believe in you kung ikaw mismo nagdiscover pa sa imong giingong true Christianity?

Imoha bang karma kung akong ibutang diri unya magtudlo tudlo ko, unya dili nako matarong ug tudlo, maka daot na hinoon imbis naay kaayuhan?

Unsa manka kasiguro sa imong pagtuo nga mao nay insakto kung convinced ka motudlo2 sa uban? Duna kay basihanan gawas sa bible Or dili nimo mayagyag kay it is a dark teachings? Bisan unsaon nimo ug liko2 imong punto bro ang bottomline ana is you’ve fallen into Satan’s trap already. His goal is to divert us from the saving grace of GOD through the Lord Jesus Christ.

Colossians 2
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him (Jesus Christ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Ok na kaayo nako bro ang kaayuhan nako nga nakuha sa pagpraktis to open my third eye. plus ang tao, kung interesado gyud siya, mangita siya paagi para unsaon pagbuhat. kabalo ka unsa ang paganism, kung naka agi ka ug pagka pagan. kabalo ko nga fake imong christianity ky naa man ko sa tinood nga christianity.

Bro, mahimo kang kataw-anan anang imong claims nga ikaw na hinuon ang moangkon sa TRUE Chrisitianity when in fact imong belief is a true DECEPTION. You claim wala kay religion unya karon nagpa-uyon2 nasad ka nga true christianity imoha? Iklaro sa kuno nang imoha diha.

Why I said deception nang imoha? SATANIC and FALSE.

- You refer the Lord Jesus Christ but you’re putting him in the same position as your Buddha, Mohammed, etc..
- Youre making God, the creator of the Universe as something impersonal, meaning less intellectual, without will. Unsa may imong knowledge of something more than a PERSON (having will, intellect, emotion)? Kanang ginoo nga walay utok, will ug emotion? Gamita daw imong impersonal soul ana kung maka explain baka walay gamit2 ug intellect!
- You quoted bible verses but twisting its interpretations to suit your agenda. Which in the bible wala kay kalainan ni Satanas, magamit2 ug verses para paglipat sa tawo!
- You claim TRUE christianity pero imong Christ nga gisunod is not the Jesus of History which is recorded in the bible. Imong gospel are the gnostic writings which are the counterfeit gospels.

at least nakakita ko ug nakabalo nako unsa diay ang tinood nga makatabang nako. ako ra pud ang makatabang sa akong kaugalingon. dili akong teacher kung dili ako ra pud. kung buhaton lng nako tanan nga gipangtudlo nako, ok na kaayo. ok na gani kaayo karon, samot pa kung buhaton tanan.

Then why the need for a teacher kung wala man diay ka nagkinahanglan sa ilang tabang? Sakto man bro nga kita ray makabuot kung unsa atong choices/buhaton but we have to make sure the belief nga atong gisunod is rooted in the truth of Jesus Christ, or else wala kay kalainan sa tanang pagan religions nga nagworship sa SUN GOD! Rampant kaayo na basta OCCULT.

giunsa man lagi nimo pagkabalo nga Jesus Christ ra ang makaluwas nimo, naka prove sa imong kaugalingon nga na save ka? there is no trick bro, when something is taught and you are ask not to believe it, but rather prove it yourself that it is true. ang naay trick when something is just being preach without asking you to prove it, but rather just believe it. mao nai klaro nga trick. There is no heaven and hell as described by your religion.

Bro, I respect sa imong belief about reincarnation. Kani dili sad maayo nga suggestion but kung gusto jud kang mahibalo of the reality of Heaven and Hell, unsa kaha bro kung suwayan nimo ang kamatayon total mo reincarnate raman kaha ka? Para ba ma prove jud nimo nga dili diay tinuod ang mga words ni Jesus Christ sa bible about the reality of Death, Heaven and Hell? That’s the very reason bro why He was sent….to rescue us from the coming judgment of God!

Panghadlok lng na sa inyong religion para ang mga tao, mahadlok ug motoo sa inyong religion. without proving that there is no heaven and hell, klaro kaayo na nga evil. kabalo ka ug unsa ang hell, kani atong earth, mao ni ang hell. mao nga kung dili ka kabalo muhawa diri by sige ug balik balik ug reincarnate, you are in hell kada reincarnation nimo.

Ang imong belief no nag encourage lang sa taw to commit more Sin/Evil total pwede raman mabawi magbinuotan sa next life. Unsa may iyang knowledge pud in the next life nga gikarma sya sa iyang kinabuhi unya? Try to think about it deeper gud. Maayo man kaha kag logic.

So para sa uban nga nagtagbaw sa lawasnong kalipay, corrupt, greed sa kwarta, kaning kalibutana mao sad ni ang Heaven para nila? Wala man jud sila nag-antus, nisamot man nuon ka corrupt…

gibawi man gani ni Pope John Paul II ang inyong hell nga dili daw mao. what i have done with the Son Christ, I have the Christ in me.

Dili man Ginoo si Pope bro! Usa pud, dili lang ang RC ang mga Christians, pwede man sya masayop parehas nimo kay nagtuo pud nga insakto iyang pagtuo but ni divert na diay kung unsay nakasuwat/giwarning diha sa bibliya.

Ayaw ug tuo dayon kung unsa imong nadungog, you have to refer what the Bible says! Kay kung spiritual experience imong basihan bro, posible kanang imong naabtan karon outdated nana in the next 10 years. Pero ang kamatuoran sa Ginoo which was revealed throughout history nakasuwat na diha sa bible. Dili na Tsismiss nga parehas sa imoha maayo kayo modala ug drama/istorya.

my Christ in not the Christ in Buddhism, Buddhism is a religion. My Christ is the Christ taught by Jesus and not by someone else that leads you to believing the wrong version of what Christ is.

Your Christ is a counterfeit Jesus Christ of the bible. I-trace ang roots ana bro sa Ancient Babylon’s mystery religions. Sige kag mention about Christ….your Christ is impersonal but our Christ is PERSONAL, he dwelt among us 2000 years ago.

The body is not important what is important is the soul. The soul of Jesus is Christ.

Youre wrong bro. JESUS himself was the CHRIST! No person in history who was called Jesus Christ or Jesus the CHRIST aside from Him. Ikaw nana man kaha kay Christ, pwede naka namo tawgon ug JOVI the CHRIST?

For Jesus, his body is nothing, what is important is his soul that is Christ.

Of course kay naa man syay mission from the Father! Ikaw you claim to have no ego, desires, etc….makabuhat ka like sa iyang sacrifice? Wala man kahay bili para nimo imong lawas, Sugot ka ipalansang ka sa krus kay daghan jud mo volunteer ana? Just kidding bro.

asa man diay ang evil bro, naa sa soul or naa sa brain?

In essence atong kalag ang nag-influence sa atong brain, sa atong whole being. Kinsa may nag-guide sa imong brain to think ug Sin/Evil, diba imong kalag? (a being that has a will, intellect, emotion) unsa may buot sa imong utok kung wala tay kalag? Wala tay kalainan sa mananap bro. Animal only possess the spirit, without the soul.

naa sa imong brain ang evil ky mao nay naay reasoning, naay ego, naay desires. mao na nga imo ng kalimtan during meditation.

Naa man jud nay brain ang mananap bro, nganong wala man malicia ang iro kung magsex sa tungod nimo? Pasabot nga wala sa utok diay ang EVIL/SIN. Diba?

Plus kadaku sa God, kagamay sa imong brain, dli gyud na kasabot ni God. Soul ra ang makasabot ni God. I have proven it.

That’s why you have to be grateful sa Ginoo and his grace to save your soul through the perfect sacrifice of His Son. Bisan sa ka walay kwenta diay nato in this universe God walked and dwelt with us in History.
Mao makaingon ko bro nga maguwang rag 1% sa Atheism imong belief because almost walay value sa inyoha ang atong purpose of existence. We are made in the image and likeness of God, kani atong brain ug kasing2 bro dako na kayo ning advantage for us to think rationally within the boundaries given by GOD. Ayaw pagawas/violate sa iyang gihatag nga limitations. Dili ka ginoo bisan unsaon pa nimo ug ukab2 imong third eye, you will still face Him in the day of Judgment kay accountable ka sa iyang gihatag nimo nga SOUL (intellect, will, emotions).

Mao diay God intentionally made humans ug in ani lang kagamay bro in relation to the universe, nya mamatay sad despite sa iyang kadatu/ka bright, kay imagine bro kung gibuhat niya ang taw parehas kadako sa galaxy, magkadimao kaha ang universe ana? Maglisud man gani ug sabot2 nang usa ra kapamilya how much more mangandoy pata to become great as GOD?

Plus supported sa inyong idea about God using your brain. The devil is with you always bro, it is in your brain so don't use your brain to understand God, it will just deceive you.

Bro, naa mi antique reference sa among pagtuo which is FIXED and NO POWER of EVIL that is ABLE to DESTROY IT, the bible (dili na tsismis like yours)! Padayona lang nang imohang pag-ukay sa imong version sa kamatuoran.

But you can be called a fool kung moclaim ka ug TRUE CHRISTIANITY unya opposing imong teachings about JESUS CHRIST of the BIBLE. Walay laing grupo since it started bro nga gitawag ug CHRISTIANS, only those who followed Jesus teachings in the bible. Dili kadtong magquote2 ug pila lang ka verse unya i-twist ang meaning.

Sorry bro ha sa uban nga words nga offensive gamay.
peace!

[Breakeven]

tan-aw mo ug video mga bro, the creation by the Impersonal God. gamay ra ang Milky Way ky sa God, mas gamay pa gyud ang solar system, mas gamay pa gyud atong earth, mas gamay pa gyud atong bodies, mas gamay pa gyud atong brain, unya ang brain atong gamiton sa pagsabot sa God?

I found this one to be more interesting bro...

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Hiliga jud nimug secret oi, mura man kag teleserye.

Bitaw, naa kay sampe dha regarding anang nakasuwat sa Gospel of Thomas nga wa sa Bibliya karun? sample lan

di man gud ko teacher, dili pud ka student so secret lng sa. secret man gani na diha o, pero kasabot ko, dili pud nako i explain.

II: Coptic Gospel of Thomas

P) These are the secret sayings which the living Jesus spoke
and which Didymos Judas Thomas wrote down.

1) And He said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these
sayings will not experience death."

22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to His disciples,
"These infants being suckled are like those who enter the
Kingdom."
They said to Him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the
Kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you
make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside,
and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the
female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the
female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye,
and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and
a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter [the
Kingdom]."

- can you make make two into one? - sa akong nahibaw-an sa inyo 3 ra man ang mahimong 1
- can you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside? - samot
- can you make the above like the below? - tomas pa gyud
- can you make male not be male not the female female? - kalisod
- can you fashion eyes in the place of an eye? -2 ka mata himoon ug usa?

actually gahapon, himo-an unta nako ni ug thread but wa pa koi time kaayo

[slabdans]

yohooo jovi -unsa lage ng illusion...

kaya nimo mag paka soul?

[psychologic]

@brod jov-- mau ng secretoha bro.. kay kon imo na isulti, aw mahuman namo ani.. hehehe..

[Breakeven]

@jovi

bro, pwede nimo ma describe imong impersonal God kung unsa iyang kaya mahimo?

We Christians believed GOD is Personal - having will, intellect and emotion.
If you also believed that our universe was created in some point of time in the past. Giunsa man pag create sa imong impersonal God kung wala syay Will and Intellect? As far as I know, ang Personal being has the capacity to create ug complex nga butang….wala pay term nga akong nabaloan of a being more than a Person nga dunay buot, kaalam, ug will.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

I found this one to be more interesting bro...

ako gyud gitan-aw ang video. usa ra gyud akong masulti bro, kung naay grupo for example freemasonry or illuminati or theosophy nga gisige ninyo giingon nga evil kuno, kuno ra pud based sa gipang-ingon sa inyong mga preachers (preachers ra pud), then apil usa nila, then if you found out nga evil, then that's the time maka ingon ka nga evil. unless naa ka sa sulod anang gipang-ingon nimo nga evil group, dili ka kabalo kung evil ba gyud or dili. naanad man gud mo kung unsay isulti sa inyong preachers mao dayon. investigate first, without proof, not knowing nga ang inyong bag-o nga christianity is the work of a disciple of Lucifer.

ask ko nimo kadaghan bro, pero murag wala man ky answer ani, yes or no ra ang gipangayo. evil ba diay kung wagtangon imong ego ug desires? evil ba diay to be physically detached? evil ba diay to be in pure goodness: words, thoughts, deeds?

sa inyoha puno ug ego and desires, proof: religious wars. deception: too2x lng without asking the followers to prove personally. sa inyoha naay excuse kung nakabuhat ug evil. sa inyoha wai power against evil.