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  1. #1231

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @jovs
    Mas mopabor nuon ang taw ana bro kay kana pa sige lang tilaw sa sala (panchix,tilaw tanan lami,etc.)….total wala man syay knowledge sa iyang past lives nah. Kinsa mang tawhana nga naay idea sa iyang previous life? Wala.

    Bro, face the reality of Evil/Sin. Wala nay chance ang taw mahimong matarung kundi as what the bible says, greed, pride, lovers of themselves more than God and because the love of many wax cold, immorality abounds….which is very,very obvious sa atong panahon. Giduwa-duwaan lang ang word nga gugma. Illusion ranang imong giingon nga ma attain ang peace bro! Unless machange ang kasing2 sa taw, dili ang opening of the third eye.
    naa few bro nga kabalo sa ilang past lives, pareha ni Jesus during his time, kabalo siya sa iyang bad karma nga bayran, same with John the Baptist, same with Buddha. but before that, is it really important to know the past lives just to learn and prove that there is karma and reincarnation?

    When God gave us free will, apil ang laws like Karma and Reincarnation para makatabang nato in case makalimot na ta sa sige nato ug abuse sa atong free will and para naa tai guide. so sa karma, automatic di ka magbuhat ug maayo bayad. Now diri sa earth, ang tao duna gyud suffering, bisag kinsa wai lusot ana, bisag si Jesus ug Buddha during their lifetime, they also suffered. Bisag mga datu kaayo nga mga kwartahan, naa pud na sila lain klase sa suffering, so walai lusot ang tao diri naa gyud suffering. It is bec of the karma from past lives ug sa current life. Now kung ang tao dili motoo sa ug karma and reincarnation unya magwonder na siya about sa iyang suffering? makaingon nga kabuutan niya, ka honest nya, puro na lng siya paningkamot, wala na lng gani recreation, but nganong naa man ko ani nga suffering. another example, datu kaayo, but wala siya gimahal sa iyang mga anak nga gi providan man niya tanan, gipalitan tanan, but it seems dili siya love sa iyang mga anak. kung matiguwang siya klaro kaayo ibutang na lng siya sa home for the aged. maybe moingon nga bec wa man gud koi time nila but i provide everything that's a sign of my love for them but how come they don't understand. so you see the suffering. maybe moingon ka, wa man gud siya'y time sa iyang mga anak, puro na lng negosyo, but then kung dili niya buhaton, how he can provide everything, kung lain ang mudala sa negosyo, basin mayabo ra, masira ra.

    in short bro, bisag kinsa naay suffering, but ngano. Sa inyoha bro, moingon dayon nga suffer gani ang Ginoo sa cross, kita na ba? hehehe. Naa gyud na suffering, but for those people ang nitoo ug nakabalo about sa workings sa Karma ug reincarnation, for them it is not suffering, they will be happy and thankful. libog? kinsa gud tawon malipay ug suffering? hehehe. kami bro nga nakasabot sa Karma ug reincarnation, suffering for us is a blessing, we are thankful bec we are given a chance to pay the bad karma in the past lives ug sa karon. that means, justified na. and we don't have to do again any evil ky we know that there is suffering afterwards, payments. so, dili ka magool ky naa ky suffering, but instead happy ka. mao na ang nakanindot ana. That's why Jesus and Buddha, taught them ky those laws are from God.

    Imoha sad ning version sa pagbuhat ug sayop bro. Dili man ingon ana ug mindset ang tinuod nga Christians.
    mao bitaw na kasagaran, bisag ikaw bro, makapamakak ka, makabuhat ka ug sayop ky kabalo man ka nga mapasaylo ra ka, esp. kusog kaayo imong faith ni Jesus. tan-awa gud ng mga seminarian, mga pari, daghan bugoy diha, ky cge man sila ug ampo, sila man gani ang kumpisalan, instrumento sila/bridge sa Ginoo ug makasasala, that means, mangayo ra pud ug pasaylo/makumpisal ra pud ang sala nga nahimo. so never ending, di gyud maka attain ug perfection.

    Hhehe! Ang cancer bro dili na tungod sa karma from the past lives kundi sa iyang present nga pag-abusar sa lawas…constant sinning, Adultery, gambling, drunkenness, etc…Ang konsensya, guilt ug pride nag-abot mao nang makaweak usahay sa immune system. Dili tanan corrupt politicians nagkasakit ug in ana sad, with exception sa mga matarung jud.



    then unsa man imong ikasulti sa mga tawo nga nagbuhat ana unya hangtud natiguwang na lng pwerteng gihapong baskuga? tungod ky sakto sa vitamins ug supplements? unsa man sab tong sakto sa supplements, wala abusar sa lawas, tag-iya pa ug supplement products unya namatay gihapon sa sakit? even science bro, wa pa kakuha unsaon pag-ayo ng sakita ug uban nga sakit wa pa silay na discover nga medicina? but kami nga nitoo ug karma and reincarnation, daghan na nga nangaayo sa kana nga sakit wala pai mga medical doctor sauna, samot pa gyud karon. *nangaayo, ky kabalo ug kasabot man mi sa Universal Laws of God. Ang tanan sakit ug suffering sa tao is cause by bad karma. proven ug kabalo kaayo mi ana.

    Ang pangutana diha, kinsa nga teacher ang imong tuohan? Nganong wala manka motuo ni Mohammad, Moses, Jesus Christ? Nganong si buddha man imong gipaminaw? Parehas diay sila ug means/ways of salvation?

    Kani nuon bro, kung i-test kaha ka sa Creator inig moabot imong time sa judgment, are you 100% sure makapasar sa iyang standards imong binuhatan? I-consider bro ang standard sa Ginoo is His Son, Jesus examples kung makatupong ba ka ana. Kung wala sa kumingking imong achievement/good works surely hagbung naka daan! Mao nang ni-adapt nalang ka anang concept of reincarnation kay wala may sure unsay padulngan…..
    wala pa gihapon ka kasabot bro, si Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, Moses, Krishna, Zoroaster pareha ra na sila ug teachings, mostly the knowledge and application of the Universal Laws of God. Ang pareha nilang gitudlo mao to ang matood, ang nagdeperensya, dili na gikan nila. for example, ang tanan tawo pareha ra ang pagtan-aw sa Ginoo, kana gikan na nilang Jesus ug Buddha, pero pag muingon gani nga special sa mata sa Ginoo ang mga Kristyano, kana dili na na gikan ni Jesus. makabantay gyud ka basta tinudlu-an ka unsay gipang teach ni Jesus ug unsay dili iyaha.

    gi unsa man nimo pag prove bro nga naay judgement? kita na mo ug tawo nga gi judge? as long as you are with Universal Laws of God, there is nothing to wait, automatic ang results, wala nai judge judge. Me always bro, pasado and I am sure with that and I have proven that.

    Give us your definition sa impersonal God first, unsa iyang kakayahan….kay lisud sabton moingon ka we are made in his likeness/image, unya kita as a PERSON, we have this will, intellect and emotions. Sabta sa maayo ang difference between the two para dili ka maglibog kung kinsa diay ka! Kung moingon ta impersonal ka, tabla ra kag nag hallucinate ana.
    Mao gani important to know thyself, ky kung dili ka kaila sa imong tinood nga self, you will not know about God including Christ. Jesus, Buddha, and many others taught the same teachings, and one of them is to know oneself, if *not, you are just hiding the truth from yourself. kita ka sa limitation sa atong physical self, kutob ra man gani ta diri sa earth. wa pa gani ta kagawas sa atong solar system. how much more with God. but the same image and likeness is actually inside us, it is the real us, and we must know that real us, so we will know God, same with our image/likness. It is taught by Jesus, Buddha, and others that the Kingdom of God is within us.

    Psalm 46:10
    New International Version (NIV)
    10 He says, “Be still, and know that I am God;
    * * I will be exalted among the nations,
    * * I will be exalted in the earth.”

    How to know God, Be still and it is actually meditation. In meditation, you come to know the real you inside your body. and only with meditation you will have knowledge about God with the knowledge of your true self. and i now that bec i was taught and told to do it myself and to prove it, and i have proven it myself.

    Bro, Christianity is very different from the OCCULT belief. Kana dili jud ta magka-reconcile/agree diha. Padayon lang sa imohang occult bro and we will continue with our Faith in Jesus Christ.
    occult bro means knowledge that must be kept hidden, why should be hidden, bec it needs a guide/a teacher before you can learn it. why need a teacher, bec a teacher does not just teach you, ikaw mismo, pa buhaton para ikaw mismo maka prove kung sakto ba. just like sa science, pa experimenton gyud ka to know nga this statement is true. so diha naka lahi ang teacher ug ang preacher. Ang preacher wala pa naka prove. Unya pareha sa inyoha nga open ra kaayo ang bible, bisag kinsa lng mo interpret, nya lahi ang interpretation, hala tukod dayon ug lain nga religion. but is there really a hidden knowledge, no! as long you find a teacher that will teach that knowledge, then it is not hidden to you. ang gilikayan, is pataka na lng ang individual ug sabot ug buhat without guidance from a teacher. tan-awa gud ng religion karon, lain lain nga Buddhism, lain lain nga Christianity, lain lain nga Islam.

    wa man sab ko ingon tuhui ko, trying to explain here without forcing you to believe bec ang nakabalo nga tinood is ako ra man pud. padayon lng sa imong religion bro and always be happy with that.
    Then na perfect naka bro? hmmmm, ikaw ha pagklaro gani diha….ang pag open sa third eye bro dili na assurance nga mahimo kang perfect coz we are already in a fallen state, residue lang na bro kung unsa diay ta when Adam did not sin…..kulang pa gani na kay wala ka mag-glow like Christ’s in his resurrected body.

    That’s why Jesus Christ was sent from GOD to rescue us from Evil/Sin.
    kung kabalo ka unsa na ang third eye, you will be will to open it. Satan will deceive you not to open, why? unsa man gyud diay ng third eye. It is the only eye that can see and know God. It is the only eye that can know your true self. As long BUTA pa ka, mailad ra ka ni satanas sa kamatuuran. Like physical desires and egos, sayon ra ka ilaron ana niya. But if open na, mismo si satanas, dili magpakita nimo. Speaking of MAG-GLOW, don't you know nga mo glow ta tanan. sa physical eye dili na makita, but sa third eye, mao na makakita. But naa nay nadiscover nga tool ana para mismo ang physical eye makakita, pero di gyud na mao completely, ang third eye ra ang completely kita.




  2. #1232

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    murag lisod sabton na dah! kay kung basihan nimo ang story kabahin nila ni adan ug eva si satan ang nagtudlo ni eva ang kan-on ang gidiling bunga...murag related story sa 3rd eye

  3. #1233

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    murag lisod sabton na dah! kay kung basihan nimo ang story kabahin nila ni adan ug eva si satan ang nagtudlo ni eva ang kan-on ang gidiling bunga...murag related story sa 3rd eye
    ang apple bro, mao to ang 3rd eye? adam's apple seguro bro

    Matthew 6:22-23
    King James Version (KJV)
    22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

    23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

  4. #1234

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ang apple bro, mao to ang 3rd eye? adam's apple seguro bro

    Matthew 6:22-23
    King James Version (KJV)
    22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

    23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
    John 14:6
    Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. wla siya mag sugo abli2x ug 3rd eye

  5. #1235

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    John 14:6
    Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. wla siya mag sugo abli2x ug 3rd eye
    so unsa man diay pasabot ni Jesus ato? wa toi labot sa teachings niya? conflict iyang mga statements? eye be single, unsa na butahan ang usa para usa na lng ang mata? or ipikat ang usa?

  6. #1236

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    so unsa man diay pasabot ni Jesus ato? wa toi labot sa teachings niya? conflict iyang mga statements? eye be single, unsa na butahan ang usa para usa na lng ang mata? or ipikat ang usa?
    iya tong sambiyay para sa mga tawo nga hilig ug beerhouse nga kung ang imong usa ka mata mag pakasala lugita na lng para di maamong ang tibook nimong lawas

  7. #1237

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    iya tong sambiyay para sa mga tawo nga hilig ug beerhouse nga kung ang imong usa ka mata mag pakasala lugita na lng para di maamong ang tibook nimong lawas
    naa na diay beerhouse sauna panahon ni Jesus?

    kung lugiton ang usa ka mata, makakita diay na ug kahayag ang usa?

    mao ni nga verse imong pasabot:

    Matthew 18:9
    And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

    kasulod naka ug beerhouse bro?
    Last edited by jovipeorliohacokijo; 12-07-2012 at 01:10 PM.

  8. #1238

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    naa na diay beerhouse sauna panahon ni Jesus?

    kung lugiton ang usa ka mata, makakita diay na ug kahayag ang usa?

    mao ni nga verse imong pasabot:

    Matthew 18:9
    And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

    kasulod naka ug beerhouse bro?
    kanang imo bro perti lng gyud ka literal mao mas maayo pa makig storya kung budha kabahin ani w8 lng kuha-on s nako tong solvent ha

  9. #1239

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    kanang imo bro perti lng gyud ka literal mao mas maayo pa makig storya kung budha kabahin ani w8 lng kuha-on s nako tong solvent ha
    hahaha, solvent dayon, di man katubag , kung nakasulod naka ug beerhouse bro, nganong kompleto pa man ka ug mata?

    kanang “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me - tinood man na bro, but as long as dili na ma prove sa inyong pastor ug nimo, wala ka kabalo kung tinood na ug unsay tinood ana, mao nay klarong pangilad, bisag wala ka prove un unsa na, isangyaw pa gyud. Pero ako, kabalo kaayo ko. Nya wala nai conflict sa third eye, instead, need gani ka ug third eye. Ang Father is invisible, the Son is invisible, kung buta imong third eye, dili ka kakita sa duha, mao ng mailad lng ka ana ug unsa gyud na, nya huwat huwat ka sa wala gyud nimo kaila. actually, niagi na nimo but wa man ka kaila nimo, wala lng nimo gitagad. bisag kapila na lng ka gi agi-an, wa gyud ka kakita ky buta man ka.

  10. #1240

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    @jovi

    OT: imong mga teachings are obviously from paganism, occult! We are warned already in the bible to be careful with those kinds of teachings.

    sorry bro but imong ginoo nga gimean is LUCIFER...not the GOD of the bible!


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