The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

[shinngakkusei]

ask lang ko brad hah kay zero ko anang hebrew. unsa sad ngan sa manluluwas didto? katong gianak ni sta. maria nga berhen

Ang Name sa gi anak ni Virgin Mary was Jesus. He was the One nga gi propesiya sa Old Testament time nga Messiah a Hebrew word which means the Anointed One nga mao ang Savior.

Luke 1:26-31 -
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

[MasterK]

@shinn: kana Jesus brad inglis na noh? hebrew jud kuno original. lain man toh iya gingan wala man ko kibaw unsa spelling ato. basta "yaswa" man to ako nadungog. katawa gud ko. ako pagtuo gabinuang ra siya. dili kuno angay usbon ang pangan. abi man gud nako ug preha sad mo gigamit nga name sa messiah kay naghisgot man gud ka ug hebrew. ok ra brad nakasabot ra ko. thanx

[hardzrock]

naunsa naman ni.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Yes ug lahi ra kaayo sila. Elisha is not greater than Elijah but Jesus is greater than John, You can point the similarities that I might have missed. Naa man jud kaha ug di man kaha na bunga sa imong imagination.

ha, mas taas pa ni John the Baptist si Jesus? si Jesus unta tong ni baptize/annoint ni John the Baptist? naay verse nga gi praise ni Jesus iyang master. Check also this verse:

“I will also ask you one question. If you answer me, I will tell you by what authority I am doing these things. John’s baptism - where did it come from? Was it from heaven, or from men?” (Matt. 21:24-25)

This question asked by Jesus tubag niya sa mga Jewish chief priests and elders, pagkakita nila ni Jesus teaching in the temple courts. They asked him, “By what authority are you doing these things?” (Matt: 21:23) In other words, gi question nila kung naa bai authority si to stand on temple grounds and teach the people.

Ang question that Jesus asked was specific sa iyang authority. Iyang giklaro nga bec sa pagbaptized ni John the Baptist niya. klaro na nga student and disciple siya ni John the Baptist, and iya ra pud gisulti unsay gitudlo sa iyang master as student ni John the Baptist. Pareha ra pud na sa mga previous students-teachers saunang panahon. It was passed from Abraham to Isaac. From Isaac to Jacob. From Jacob to Joseph. From Joseph to the sons of Israel. From the priest Jethro to Moses. From Moses to Joshua. From the priest Eli to Samuel. From Samuel to David. From David (and Zadog the priest and Nathan the Prophet) to Solomon. Jesus also came in the line of the prophets/teachers who descended from David and Solomon down to the devoted priest Zachariah - John the Baptist's teacher and father.

Elisha cured a man with leprosy, fed hundreds, raised dead, syempre mas taas na/mas daghan na ug nabuhat si Elisha pagka Jesus niya ky next life naman, ana man ng purpose sa reincarnation, mga unfinished business, nya, celebrity naman siya sa Jerusalem, murag nahimong public figure unlike ni Elisha nga hilom ra.

It's prophesied. Di ko motuo jovi kay Christos and Mashiach by definition di na sya ma achieve through meditation ug unsa pa na diha imong gibuhat. But it seems na naghimo na pud kag imong dictionary din wa na koy labot ana imo man pud na hilig maghimo-himo ug lain meaning. hehe

mao man kaha imong pagtoo, padayon lng bro. i'm not pushing you to believe nga ingon ana gyud ang Christ. Sharing ra man ni ako, you don't have to believe me bro, and i'm not here to push you to believe me and dapat i prove gyud nako. pila na kabook prophets, messengers ni God mga gipangpatay, apil na si John the Baptist, Jesus (pero naka pangandam, wala namatay), mga discples niya, mga before pud ni John the Baptist. Willing mupatay ang mga leaders sa mga religious groups tungod lng sa power ug money. ky kaning gipang teach aning mga messengers is solely for the liberation mas sa tao para mabalik sa Ginoo, but the religious leaders dili sila, mawagtangan sila ug power and money once makasabot ang tao sa mga gipang teach aning mga messengers. Si Jesus mismo nisulti na daan sa Jewish Chief priests ug elders nga mao na, birahan dayon ang Messiahs/Annointed Ones just like sa ilang gipangbuhat sa mga prophets ug messengers sa Ginoo sauna. Namatay tood si John the Baptists, but these messengers are not afraid to die for God. Si Jesus napud ilang plano, but mas utukan si Jesus nila, sila ang naisahan ni Jesus. ti-aw mo hangtud karon, wa gyud sila kabalo nga wa diay namatay si Jesus sa krus, hasta gani ka, naapil ka ug too nga namatay gyud si Jesus unya para ma justify ilang gibuhat pagpatay niya, gipatoo nga ma save ang mga tao tungod sa paglansang/pagkamatay sa krus. Napatay nila si Jesus, nakailad pa gyud sila sa mga tao, na justify pa ilang pagpatay. Pero sila ang pildi ni Jesus, ky mas utukan pa, wa diay namatay, nagmata lng sila ug morning. Ang Katoliko bro, naa na sila daan assassins, just in case naay tawo nga mugawas ingon ana. That means if naa na pud mugawas in the public, any messenger ni God, andam na na siya to die just to help people nga ma save from superstitions and false beliefs.


nataas na hinoon nako ang explanation, Christ ra man unta to hehehe. Kabalo ka, if kabalo ka nga God is not a person, kabalo pud ka nga Christ is not. Kabalo pud ka sa tinood nimo nga self nga dili ka person, bisag asa una nimo mahibaw-an, makahibawo naka sa uban. Bec usa ra ta tanan. Ikaw ug Ako, we are one. Kita ug God, we are One. Kita, God, Christ, usa ra ta. ilusyon ra na nga naglahilahi ta ug body. hehehe. emptiness/nothingness is fullness!!

Wa siguro ka kabasa ani maong nagbuot-buot na pud ka?

Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. But John tried to deter him, saying, “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?”

“After me comes the one more powerful than I, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie.

The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel.”
Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. And I myself did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ I have seen and I testify that this is God’s Chosen One.”

Klaro kaayo diha jovi nga wa na silay teacher-student relationship. Jesus is greater than John and before Jesus was baptized John wanted to be baptized by Jesus.

bro, ug wala gi baptized si Jesus ni John the Baptist, do you think maka sugod siya sa iyang mission?

Buot-buot nasad.. maayoha nimo mo himo ug storya oi.. LOL
That is because of your ignorance of the bible mao pataka nalang ka ug interpret sa giingon ni Jesus. Elijah was prophesied to come. Kabalo na man sad ka nga Elijah is a great and bold prophet. Mao ni giingon ni Lucas nga "And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah". John is likened to Elijah pero di na sya si Elijah mismo oi.. Tugma ra sad na sa giingnon ni Juan nga di sya ang Christ ug di pud sya si Elijah though he is like Elijah..

jovi wa lagi na gitudlo ni Jesus ang reincarnation. Ayaw lagi ug tuo anang gahung-hong nimo.. basin espiritu ra na sa beer nga imong giinom

si John the Baptist ang ni deny bro, pero si Jesus na mismo ang niingon, kaklaro ana nga verse, kinsa man diay imong tuhu-an ron, si John the Baptist or si Jesus? akong gi bold, "And if you are willing to accept it", but since dili ka willing sa giingon ni Jesus, hala ka, bantay ka ni Jesus du

naa man na bro, gipatangtang na sa Rome, naa baya mga gospels nga wa giapil sa Rome. Gipatangtang na para maka create sila ug heaven ug hell, plus naa pa gyud purgatory. but gatoo sila ug natangtang nila sa bible, but wala, like kato nga mga verse about Elijah/John the Baptist. But naa pa gyud lain nga verse, i think ukayonon lng na. try ko mangita.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Oo lahi ang body ug lahi ang soul BUT unsa ingon? Jesus IS the Christ dili Jesus HAS the Christ. Pwede pud nimo e explain ngano ang IS ug ang HAS napareha.. kasabot bya ka.. haha

bisan kapila pa ko nimo ingnon nga wa ko kasabot jovi.. it doesn't change the fact the your explanations lack substance

para makasabot ka bro explain nako nimo ug tarong. sa pagkakaron, ikaw kaingon ka sa imong self nga imo kang body. So kung moingon ka ako, you are refering to your body. But kung nakamata naka gikan sa halawum kaayo nimo nga katalogon, kabalo naka nga ang imong self imo diayng soul, dili diay ka imong body. now pag moingon ka nga ako, nagpasabot na you are now referring to your soul. 1st you have a body with a soul, so mao na moingon ka nga HAS soul ka, but kung kabalo ka nga soul ka, ingon ka HAS body ka, so unsa na imong self? pag moingon ka nga ako, nag refer naka sa imong soul. Ang Christ is a very advance soul, so nganong HAS Christ, gi based nako sa imong pagsabot nga ikaw body nya HAS soul. Pag moingon si Jesus nga I, he is referring to his soul nga CHRIST, wa na siyay pakialam sa iyang body ug iyang name nga Jesus. kasabot? or wala? mao bitaw ingon ko nimo di ta mag abot. nya na kung makamata naka gikan sa imong halawum nga katulugon.

[slabdans]

@ jovi
basaha ng imong gi quote oi, ka klaro ana gi sulti ni @ NapoleonBlownapart: but Jesus is greater than John

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Messiah is the expected savior but what does mashiach and christos mean? Kun wa ka kabalo maayo pag mosulti nalang ka para madali ta

kabalo ko bro with matching investigation and analysis, ky gitudlu-an ko nga dili dapat tuhu-an unsa ang gipangtudlo, dapat ako mismo maka discover/makabalo kung tinood ba or dili ang teaching. ikaw kabalo pud ka pero sunod sunod ra man ka sa imong pastor, patohoon lng ka nga mao ni nya too pud ka, para wala nai kutikuti pa. ang imong pastor, nag investigate/nag analyze ba? nya na prove niya nga tinood? di man gani, utro pud nga too too lng. ingon si Jesus kung ang buta guidan ug buta pud aw, shat siland duha sa taro

Ang Pharisees sauna sa panahon ni Jesus, mura na sila ug Pastor, Pari, Bishop, Cardinal, ug Pope sa karon nga panahon:

Matthew 23
New International Version (NIV)
A Warning Against Hypocrisy

1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7 they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.

8 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. 11 The greatest among you will be your servant. 12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.

Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees

13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14] [b]

15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!

33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.

37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’[c]”

apil ba ni nga chapter sa inyong studies/teachings? or gi skip ni ninyo?

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

@ jovi
basaha ng imong gi quote oi, ka klaro ana gi sulti ni @ NapoleonBlownapart: but Jesus is greater than John

cge gud, maypa mong duha kabalo nga greater si Jesus ni John the Baptist. Si Jesus tawon, pwerte gyud tawon niyang praise sa iyang master

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

ignore sa statement? hehehe magkatawa man ko nimo bro, klaro kau ka oi ngano lihay-lihayan man nimo ako mga pangutana? wa kay ikatubag sa? perminte kang barado nako cheers

kadaghan anang akong tubag bro, niingon na lng ko nimo nga ignore ky kabalo ko dili ka kasabot bisan pa ug i inject sa imong brain.

pwerte gyud nimong liboga

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

hehehe mao ba bro? have studied the life of Jose Rizal bro? may similarities sad sa life ni Jesus, basin mo kalit sad kag ingon imo sad siyang GOD! mga lipong na gyud mi anang tanan

hehehe. mao na nakasayop, naa mo madunggan nga mao na, himoon na ninyong God. kapila man tawon nga giingon ni Jesus nga there is only One God. Si Jose Rizal, nakabalo to siya sa gipang teach tanan ni Jesus ug Buddha pag-adto niya sa Europe. Mao di gyud to siya mahadlok sa mga Spanish leaders ug friars dri sa ato sauna, di pud siya mahadlok mamatay timaan nga kabalo siya nga dili siya body, nga soul siya. Si Jesus ug mga Pharisees sauna, mao pud si Rizal ug mga Spanish friars sa iyang time. maong naay similarities. Ug naa gihapon na hangtud karon. So kanang imo it is like you are siding with the Pharisees, Spanish Friars, ug karon sa imong religion. Your group is not saving mankind. ky dili man mo ma save, nangangin mo sa uban nga dili pud ma save, ug babagan ang mga gusto tawon ma save.