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  1. #931

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    @shinngakkusei: pwede ask lang ko bro?

    OT: sa una bro naay tao nagpasunog sa iya kaugalingon diha sa plaza independensya. samtang nadilaab ang kayo sige siya sangpit "yawah elohem" (di lang ko sure sakto ba ako spelling ana kay binasi ras ako nadungog gicover sa Radyo). hangtod siya namatay (pwera hisgot, sumalangit nawa)

    unsay hubad binisaya atoh brad. pangutana ra ni ako brad pwede ra sad nimo tubagon or dili. gusto lang ko masayod unsa gyud sakto binisaya ato iyang gisangpit. bata pa ko ato bro ako pagtoo atoh yawa to iya gisangpit
    I heard also about this. But I dont know unsa to iya gisulti. One thing for sure He was asking for a miracle which is not applicable this New Testament days. When the Bible was completed God stop His dealings to man by miracles.

  2. #932

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by shinngakkusei View Post
    To understand the Trinity of God we need to go back to the original Old Testament writings nga mao ang Hebrew word. The Old Testament book of the Bible was written in Hebrew.

    Elohim is the word for God which is if you study this Hebrew word, this is in plural form. It means `Gods` but used by a 3 single persons predicate verb.

    There is only one God. One kind. but manifested by three person. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

    This is the example in order to understand this.
    -- I and my Father are both Human kind but we are not the same person. Humanly speaking Father and Son is same. they are both Human being but not the same person and not the same position. of Course Father is greater than the Son.

    So God is a being. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are God. they are God in being but not same position. Jesus said `I and my Father are one` John 10:30. Jesus is saying that He is also a God. because He is the Son of God.
    so does it mean bro na mu eskwela pata ug Hebrew ani? clarification lang...

  3. #933

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by defender_1611 View Post
    so does it mean bro na mu eskwela pata ug Hebrew ani? clarification lang...
    dli oi basa ra kag wiki kay naa may plural

  4. #934

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by defender_1611 View Post
    so does it mean bro na mu eskwela pata ug Hebrew ani? clarification lang...
    Not necessarily bro nga makaton jud ta ug Hebrew language but there is no way to understand the meaning of a word than to study it. study the root of it, on how the first person say it. what he means for it. there are a lot of books and references about Hebrew noon para makuha jud nato ang meaning niya. like sa New Testament, ang New Testament kay written in Greek na siya ang original mao naa pud me greek ron sa amo school...

  5. #935

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by shinngakkusei View Post
    Not necessarily bro nga makaton jud ta ug Hebrew language but there is no way to understand the meaning of a word than to study it. study the root of it, on how the first person say it. what he means for it. there are a lot of books and references about Hebrew noon para makuha jud nato ang meaning niya. like sa New Testament, ang New Testament kay written in Greek na siya ang original mao naa pud me greek ron sa amo school...
    unya kani naa may plural ug verb gamit tag wiki?
    Elohim is the word for God which is if you study this Hebrew word, this is in plural form. It means `Gods` but used by a 3 single persons predicate verb.

  6. #936

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    @shinngakkusei: pwede ask lang ko bro?

    OT: sa una bro naay tao nagpasunog sa iya kaugalingon diha sa plaza independensya. samtang nadilaab ang kayo sige siya sangpit "yawah elohem" (di lang ko sure sakto ba ako spelling ana kay binasi ras ako nadungog gicover sa Radyo). hangtod siya namatay (pwera hisgot, sumalangit nawa)

    unsay hubad binisaya atoh brad. pangutana ra ni ako brad pwede ra sad nimo tubagon or dili. gusto lang ko masayod unsa gyud sakto binisaya ato iyang gisangpit. bata pa ko ato bro ako pagtoo atoh yawa to iya gisangpit
    share lang ko master ha, ang gibuhat atong maong tao was sadly a tragic illustration of the power of blind faith.
    mao man jud to iyang gituhoan...ug unsa man gani to iyang gishagit...mao toy iyang gituhoan nga angay niyang ishagit
    for whatever purpose or reason nganu angay to niyang ishagit...
    that person's act is of no difference with suicide bombers..

    para nako, Lisud e identify if the faith is of divine influence...or could be purely psychiatric...
    but we can always examine the fruits...as what the bible says, we will know the tree by its fruits...
    sadly, that man sa plaza promised to raise himself up 3 days after diba? but didn't...

    suicide bombers didn't cause peace and bring glory to Allah as how their faith suggests..

    instead there act stirred up hatred and misconceptions about their religion...and worse, even to Allah Himself.
    Last edited by noy; 12-04-2012 at 12:49 AM.

  7. #937

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    unya kani naa may plural ug verb gamit tag wiki?
    Elohim is the word for God which is if you study this Hebrew word, this is in plural form. It means `Gods` but used by a 3 single persons predicate verb.
    Yes we need to gather information as much as we can, dili lang kay WIKI. that is why we are learning English in the School to learn English Language. To learn Hebrew Language of course you need references and dictionaries about Hebrew and specially their History and Culture. Wiki is not 100% reliable so we need not to be one sided. try another Books.

  8. #938

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    @noy:

    OT: hehehe, ako klarohon para sa tanan makabasa hah. kanang "masterK", ngan ra na sa akong iro hah. mao lang ako gigamit nah handle diri. wala na magpasabot nga master ko. hahaha

  9. #939

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by shinngakkusei View Post
    Yes we need to gather information as much as we can, dili lang kay WIKI. that is why we are learning English in the School to learn English Language. To learn Hebrew Language of course you need references and dictionaries about Hebrew and specially their History and Culture. Wiki is not 100% reliable so we need not to be one sided. try another Books.
    ask lang ko brad hah kay zero ko anang hebrew. unsa sad ngan sa manluluwas didto? katong gianak ni sta. maria nga berhen

  10. #940

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by shinngakkusei View Post
    Yes we need to gather information as much as we can, dili lang kay WIKI. that is why we are learning English in the School to learn English Language. To learn Hebrew Language of course you need references and dictionaries about Hebrew and specially their History and Culture. Wiki is not 100% reliable so we need not to be one sided. try another Books.
    I have here so called satanic book, do you want to used this as a reference also? I have gathered any info, such as teaching from other christian denominations and satanic book. I want to learned everything
    Last edited by slabdans; 12-04-2012 at 08:11 AM.

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