Blessed Pedro Calungsod

[vahnhelsing]

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So when u say respect is Walay Hilabtanay, is it Exclusive ra sa RELIGION?
Kay Klaru baya kaayu nag ang Simbahan NANGHULGA sa mga politiko about sa RH bill - Unsa na para nimu RESPECT NA? or DISRESPECT?

alang sa uban ang pagbaton ug pagtahod sa pagtoo nagahulogan nga walay hilabtanay... alang kana kanila...
ug dili kanako nga magtatampo ning kutay... bisan sa unsa pa nga natad, mapolitika, pagtoo, pagkatawo o
unsa man. May kinutoban ang pagtahod hangtod kini mahimong pagpakabana. Apan may binuhat nga alang
kanila walay katungod ang bisan kinsa nga mohatag ug panahom hilabi na kun kini makatandog sa ilahang
baroganan ug pagtoo.

In regards with the RH bill, it is the politicians moral obligation to see to it that everything in the bill is righteous
and humane. Should be not favorable with one party, religious sect or anyone else but for the entire nation.
The catholic church or any religion should not meddle with the affairs of state and vice versa.

[Xian120]

hehehe makahilak man sad ta ana tnks

O kay bulabog man ka sauna gud pagsulod nimo diri sa istorya.. It taught me how to adjust

[hulagway]

Tan awa ra ka mubo imung pangutok. if mu question diay DISRESPECT na? tawn sad nimu.... nganu gibulbugalan imung pagtuo?

Ug mu question diay ko sa Govt nganu i Legalize ang Abortion, disrespect diay na para nimu? WOW..
Basin disrespect ra if against nimu Pero if uyin nimu OK ra.

hehe..mo question para unsa o asa? dili naba sakto ang imo edad ako edad nga makasabot ta sa tagsa-tagsa nato nga tinuohan?

ayaw i apil ang goverment diri kay lahi mani nga thread..

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Too many people talk about ROMAN CATHOLICISM in the form of SAINTS as the issue . Its all good because the thread is about SAN PEDRO CALUNGSOD .

It is ok to ask questions . That would be more appropriate rather than tell the ROMAN CATHOLICS what it should be instead . Mura bitaw na ug , for you to know it , you have to be part of it .

The way I see it here , cge ug padayon ang persecutons diri na murag nag deja vu na man nuon lol 2000 years ago . Ani man gud ni , kung naa moy ika sulti , mas maayo kung kamo na lang nag Katoliko , pero saon dili man kay di man mo Katoliko , KATULO LIKO cguro mao lain ang paminsar ninyo . Again , RCC holds the EXPLANATION of the bible , everyone else are just mere varying INTERPRETATIONS so plase , dont tell me or us by quoting a verse and tells us that the TRADITIONS , APOSTOLIC and UNIVERSAL CHURCH of the RCC are wrong .

Ayaw intawn mo pagpaka BIBLICAL diri , mura mo ug mga korek .

[SioDenz]

hehe..mo question para unsa o asa? dili naba sakto ang imo edad ako edad nga makasabot ta sa tagsa-tagsa nato nga tinuohan?

ayaw i apil ang goverment diri kay lahi mani nga thread..

Unsaon man tawn pagkasinabot nga lahi lahi man ug tinuhuan, mao bitaw naay mangutana. Wala baya tas Dreamland naa ta sa realidad. Mao bitaw naay forum para mag discuss, may nag binastosay ni diri. Ikaw nuon mu ingun kag BINOGO kana klaru kaayu nang binastos.

So way Labot ang gobyerno kay ang Simbahan may nag Hikutar ang simbahan may nang hilabot sa Govt policy? nya if ang Simabahan nay i question DISRESPECT na? mao nah?

[SioDenz]

In regards with the RH bill, it is the politicians moral obligation to see to it that everything in the bill is righteous
and humane. Should be not favorable with one party, religious sect or anyone else but for the entire nation.
The catholic church or any religion should not meddle with the affairs of state and vice versa.

So ang mga politician na Nuon maoy Incharge sa Morality sa mga tawo?

Ingun ka separate ang Church ug State nya kay naghilabot man ang Church sa Policy sa Govt like medical or kana RH - Disrespect na or DILI?

[vahnhelsing]

So ang mga politician na Nuon maoy Incharge sa Morality sa mga tawo?

Ingun ka separate ang Church ug State nya kay naghilabot man ang Church sa Policy sa Govt like medical or kana RH - Disrespect na or DILI?

it is their role to safeguard the people from what should be right. what they see moral may not be moral to others.
morality is ours but we have laws to abide with.

should i spoon feed you with my answers, clearly i say the state and the church should not meddle with each other. If it is disrespect or not? IT IS.

[noy]

Your example is a bit different, Your friend is still alive. The others you asked to pray for you are dead. What did the Bible say about Dead people? what did the Bible say on what Dead People can do?

sio, in Hohn3:16 Jesus taught that whoever believes in HIM will not DIE but will have ETERNAL Life? The saints and the others lived an extraordinary Life in the name of spreading God's Love through the gospel of Jesus Christ.
they may have died physically, BUT are they really DEAD? The bible clearly says that God is the God of the LIVING and NOT the dead..
on the contrary,Jesus even labeled some people as dead though they are physically ALIVE, remember when Jesus said "Let the DEAD bury their own DEAD? Saints or people who led an extraordinary Christian Lives in the eyes of faith and basing it from what Jesus said in John3:16 those physically dead Christians are EVEN more alive than us or most of the Christians we ask to pray for us today. i hope this make sense

i know that there's a verse in deuteronomy that prohibits us to contact the dead...what God prohibits is necromancy and sorcery..clearly asking saints
to bring us closer to Jesus is NOT of the same concept..it is even more closer to asking another Christian to pray for us.

Don't compare Jesus with the other Dead people because Jesus rose from the Dead and set in the throne beside the father. the bible did not mentioned anyone besides Jesus that have the Power to hear our prayer after they die not even mary.

Nothing or No one would ever compare with Jesus.i agree that Jesus is the only mediator between His Father and mankind.
But the bible clearly teaches that we need to pray for each other diba?i hope we are already clear on saints being dead issue. so what's wrong with asking the Saints to pray for us?

this bible verses may serve as a reference that departed Saints do pray for us..
*Revelation 5:8, where John depicts the saints in heaven offering our prayers to God under the form of "golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints."
now, if they are offering prayers to God considering that they are already in Heaven, is heaven not enough?is the presence of the Almighty not enough for them that they still pray? are they praying for forgiveness?what's there to forgive if they are already in heaven? or they could be praying for us, therefore, they are aware of our petitions and prayers. or they can hear the prayers of the physically living people even if the prayers are not directed to them..surely we know God is the judge.. but is it aLL impossilbe that we could have attorneys in heaven as well? of course the bible does not teach about heavenly attorneys, but it does say about intercession.

what do you suppose the Saints would be doing once they're in heaven?
ga relax and enjoy? as a Christian we both know that though the battle has already been won on the cross by Jesus BUT the race towards salvation has not ended yet...The enemy is still trying to pull as much souls he could before the great judgement day! as what the book of revelations said.
therefore if saints are just to relax 'cause THEY are already in Heaven, wouldn't it defeat or violate God's commandment about compassion and intercession? suppose you are now a saint in heaven, would you cease to pray for people on earth knowing that the enemy is also working double time?
a life of prayer and compassion brought you closer to God, now what would stop you from praying for others to be more closer to God...
of course you are not playing "mediator" you are just simply doing your part as a Christian..which is to pray, love and intercede for others...
what difference does it make with our friends praying for us? are they mediators too? NO and YES i agree that Jesus is the only way ,truth and Life..
but the biblr teaches that the burden is light if shared. therefore we share it to others by asking them to pray for us. nothing more.

in these verses St. Paul asked people to pray for Him
Rom. 15:30–32, Eph. 6:18–20, Col. 4:3, 1 Thess. 5:25, 2 Thess. 3:1
can he not directly pray to Jesus? of course he can...but sharing the burden makes the load lighter.

1. When will God Judge all the People?
2. Are we going to be Judged one time or every time a man dies, he/she will be automatically judged and sent to heaven or Hell?
3. If we are yet to be judge since wala pay judgement day, how come people who are dead can mediate us from God?

Honestly sio, i wouldn't exactly know but basing on the teachings of Catholic Church...
if the soul goes to Hell, it is the soul's wish to do so..
but if the soul wishes to be with God but have greatly sinned DESPITE of the souls AWARENESS about sin.there has to be some sort of purification...
we know the bible states:

Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.
rev 21:27

Matt. 5:48 - Jesus says, "be perfect, even as your heavenly Father is perfect."

Matt. 12:32 – Jesus says, “And anyone who says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but no one who speaks against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven either in this world or in the next.”

Luke 12:47-48 - when the Master comes (at the end of time), some will receive light or heavy beatings but will live.

Luke 16:19-31 - in this story, we see that the dead rich man is suffering but still feels compassion for his brothers and wants to warn them of his place of suffering. But there is no suffering in heaven or compassion in hell because compassion is a grace from God and those in hell are deprived from God's graces for all eternity. So where is the rich man?

1 Cor. 15:29-30 - Paul mentions people being baptized on behalf of the dead, in the context of atoning for their sins (people are baptized on the dead’s behalf so the dead can be raised). These people cannot be in heaven because they are still with sin, but they also cannot be in hell because their sins can no longer be atoned for

Phil. 2:10 - every knee bends to Jesus, in heaven, on earth, and "under the earth" --unless the people in Hell can also bow doen to Jesus, how come they are in Hell in the first place if they know how to worship the Lord?

2 Tim. 1:16-18 - Onesiphorus is dead but Paul asks for mercy on him “on that day.” Paul’s use of “that day” demonstrates its eschatological usage (see, for example, Rom. 2.5,16; 1 Cor. 1.8; 3.13; 5.5; 2 Cor. 1.14; Phil. 1.6,10; 2.16; 1 Thess. 5.2,4,5,8; 2 Thess. 2.2,3; 2 Tim. 4.. Of course, there is no need for mercy in heaven, and there is no mercy given in hell.

1 Peter 3:19; 4:6 - Jesus preached to the spirits in the "prison."
-where do you suppose these spirits are? and why do they need preaching?

2 Macc. 12:43-45 - the prayers for the dead help free them from sin and help them to the reward of heaven. Those in heaven have no sin, and those in hell can no longer be freed from sin. where could they be sio?

sio, these ideas i shared are found in this LINK: Scripture Catholic - PURGATORY
i suggest you check this link for a better and clearer explanation than what i presented.


Lastly, if we truly believe that God is ALL merciful..
purgatory just fits for those who denied Jesus or God in this Life but repents soon after they knew He was real
for me, it even illustrates the perfect mercy of God.

and of course, it does not defeat the purpose of aiming for heaven..
for what is a shot of salvation compared with SALVATION itself?

if purgatory is not bound by time, then we could spend there millions of years if we won't aim for Heaven..
would someone want that? would someone choose water over wine?
and if i ever have to go through some purification...in this life,through faith in Christ and His righteousness, i have every chance,if not directly heaven at least the part where it is closer..
where not much purification is needed.where not much waiting and longing for God in heaven is required..
as the srcipture says, some will have light beatings

[slabdans]

Hinaot magkasinabot na ang tanan

[Dorothea]

Naa lang koy pangutana kung tinuod ba ni, but my hubby told me last night that the Pope has a twitter account? How true is this?