Blessed Pedro Calungsod

[SioDenz]

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describe your belief if you have any

Describe and explain your Belief, and Give 2 examples...

[noy]

cgoro ikaw bai nga katoliko, pero the qstion is ang uban kaha ingon ana kaha nga katoliko
so good for you,teach them bai the right way to pray. ikaw cgoro pero sa atong nakita gud bai
murag dili man gud.

KUNG WALAY NAG TUDLO NINYO BAI SA IDOLATRY ATLEST UNTA BADLONGON MO SA INYONG PARI.

thanks bai, first i want you to know kasabut ko nimu.
kaso lang if you base your perception in your own observation.how sure are you then that you are right?
by what you said, "sa ato man nakita man gud bai, murag dili man gud."

even in the time of Jesus, we know that not all Jews and priest believed He was the Son of God, the Messiah and the One who He claim who He was, simply because they too have their OWN understanding, OWN interpretation of the Scriptures, OWN perception how the messiah would be.
hence, they thought Jesus could never wither be the messiah or the son of man 'cause they thought that Jesus was born in galilee and it has been written in the Jewish scriptures that no prophet would be coming from Galilee..
so focused on what they see and know, but missed the thuth about His birth in Bethlehem which is in Jerusalem.
and even the scriptures already foretold that the messiah will be called a nazarene. since nazareth is a little town in Galilee...

in the same matter, it is so easy for us to judge others by what we see and understood by their actions, the way they look, or even talk. despite of the fact of not knowing the entire truth.

by your statement,"KUNG WALAY NAG TUDLO NINYO BAI SA IDOLATRY ATLEST UNTA BADLONGON MO SA INYONG PARI"it implies that you my friend do not really know THE STAND of the priest and teacher of the faith
regarding this matter, how do you think i would know that saints are not to be worshipped? that only God is worthy of our praise and worship?
Have you encountered a priest who actually said that we should worship the saints?
Lastly, even if a person seems to be worshipping idols, by not seeing the HEART, we can only assume many things..and by that assumption, the danger of placing judgement to others is at hand, in contrary to what Christ teaches that we should keep them at bay.
and by placing judgement, we would be in danger of going against the 2nd commandment which is of the same weight as the first one which is to Love others as ourselves.
would you agree? our sins are awful when we see others are commiting it.have you been judged? i'm sure you have. regarding idol worship, do you think you have not had idols in your life? not talking about saint or pagan worship? but anything that takes the rightful place of our Lord in our lives..
again, i'm sure you have.

Lastly, i am NOT claiming that ALL Catholics are aware that saints, are just like people whom we ask to pray for us.
i am also not claiming that ALL Catholics know that it is through faith in Jesus that we will be saved, and that Good works are merely the fruits of the faith.
clearly they need to be made aware of these things..
in the same way that Christians from another denomination THINKS and others even BELIEVED that CATHOLICS worshipped SAINTS.

at the same time, i am not even claiming that preists and all the teachers of the faith
are REALLY doing their part about the matter..
but what difference does it make with other pastors stirring up misunderstanding and misconception
about the Catholic shurch's beliefs and stand about the subject?

Have you actually studied the Catholic churches doctrines and dogmas about faith and scripture to claim that
the Catholic church mandates its members to worship idols?
Have you actually observed and spoke with ALL priests,nuns,catichest.teachers of the faith, about how,what and whrere do they stand regarding these accusations about idol worship?
Have you visited the Vatican and spoke with the Bishops about our views on saints? if they are being worshipped?

just what i thought, our OWN understannding about things we see and know.
of course we will NOT and cannot DISCREDIT what you believe. after all, God has given us the freewill
i 've already explained to you and the others that we do not worship saints.
feel free to continue believing we do just as the Jews refused to accpet Christ as the savior.

[noy]

A very Big YES.

“When you come into the land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord, and because of these abominations the Lord your God drives them out from before you.” (Deuteronomy 18:9)

from a Catholic's POV, that refers to spirit of the glass,occultism,generally witchcraft and sorcery.

if you think that talking to a physically dead Christian about God's mercy and grace, again in the same way we have our Christian firends pray for us is sorcery? therefore, i am a sorcerer basing form your POV.

"For God so Loved the World that He gave HIS only Son, that whoseover believes in HIM will not perish but will have ETERNAL LIFE"

key words bai: BELIEVES and ETERNAL LIFE.

still think the saints are DEAD?

[2stroke]

ders only 1 god,Jesus Christ.
all the glory and honor belongs to HIM only.

[noy]

Kung ang Katoliko mag cge ug basa ug Bibliya, ang ending ana - mahimung Born Again.

i agree 100 and 10%..Lives will be changed NOT necessarily religion/denomination.

[noy]

ders only 1 god,Jesus Christ.
all the glory and honor belongs to HIM only.

of course. i wouldn't be a Christian if that isn't my truth.

[noy]

lisod man gud MOD's kung mogamit ko sa term sa mga mga idols, mogawas man gud nga born again ko, nga nibanat sa katoliko, kahibaw sad ko sa sa side sa katoliko na mag ampo atubangan sa mga santos ok ra na, pero kung mag hawok2x na aw d na sad na mao, mao tong akong gi quote ni @2stroke "kung katoliko ka"

ako bai, i am not really doing the kissing part not because i disagree with it but only because i am not convicted with such act. but i am pretty sure that the devotees doing it have spiritual if not logical explainations.
and i can only hope it is devotion and not idolatry

[noy]

"Ug ilisi akong dagway kay di ni mao"

unless mas choi ang representation...ok ra guro

[Xian120]

unless mas choi ang representation...ok ra guro

ga imagine lang ko sa dagway if pinoy jud to nga tunay si San Pedro hehehe..

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

mao diay universal, no wonder universal pod inyo ampoan,
bisag kinsa nalang na santos

By the word UNIVERSAL , its just like how you INTERPRET the bible . LITERALLY and I would not be amazed at all.

Try harder in persecuting , its not even skin deep yet .