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  1. #891

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Si John the Baptist kuno kay Christ din sya pud kuno si Elijah din si Jesus kuno si Elisha matod pang jovi.. pero unsa kayha ang ingon sa bible?

    Now this was John's testimony when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, "I am not the Christ. " 21 They asked him, "Then who are you? Are you Elijah?" He said, "I am not." "Are you the Prophet?" He answered, "No."
    Have you studied the life of Elisha bro? Have you seen the similarities between Jesus and Elisha?

    kanang Christ/Messiah bro, secreto ra man gud na ky dili man na hisabtan unless you are being taught about it by a teacher who also have Christ in them, sa case ni Jesus, he taught that to this disciple. Si John the Baptist, sulti siya ana nga verse ky iya ra ng gi secret ky kabalo man siya unsay buhaton niya. bisan gani karon, kung naay tao moingon nga naa koi Christ, tuhu-an ba, instead duna pa seguroy mahitabo niya mao nga secret gyud kaayo na. even Jesus ask his disciples not to tell anyone that he is the messiah or Christ

    Matthew 16:16-20
    New International Version (NIV)
    16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
    17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[c] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[d] loosed in heaven.” 20 Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.

    But if you will know a teacher-student relationship or master-disciple relationship, you will know nga mas una pa si John the Baptist ni Jesus mas una pa naay Christ si John the Baptist then gitudlu-an niya si Jesus, then by baptism, which is sayop nga concept karon, daghan wa kasabot gatoo ug bunyag. baptism is actually master-student ritual, ug unsa ang naa sa master iyang gipasa sa iyang disciple, mao na ang sakto, but i cannot explain more on baptism or else, i will reveal some secrets here but i'm not drunk yet. hehehe

    sa imong verse nga gihatag bro, it is the statement of John the Baptist, that's to protect him, he did not reveal that he also have Christ in him. It is a secret. but naay mga verse nga si Jesus mismo ang nagsulti nga si John the Baptist si Elijah. This time ha, si Jesus na mismo ang nagsulti.

    Matthew 17:11-13
    Common English Bible (CEB)
    11 Jesus responded, “Elijah does come first and will restore all things. 12 In fact, I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they didn’t know him. But they did to him whatever they wanted. In the same way the Human One[a] is also going to suffer at their hands.” 13 Then the disciples realized he was telling them about John the Baptist.

    Matt. 11:11-15
    "I tell you the truth: Among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it. For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. He who has ears, let him hear."

    Cheers bro!!
    Last edited by jovipeorliohacokijo; 12-03-2012 at 12:02 AM.

  2. #892

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Ako nabantayan nimo jovi when the bible says Jesus IS the Christ you would understand it as Jesus HAS the Christ. They don't have the same meaning. Pastilan..
    Pwerte gyung pastilana bro. kasabot man ko nimo bro nga waka kasabot ana. you have to know first the difference between body and soul. sa Jesus Christ, asa ang body? ug asa ang soul? kung di pa gyud ka kuha ana then just ignore what i'm saying bro. Analyze first body and soul, then kung maka deperensya ka nga separate na sila then we can discuss again. Cheers!!

  3. #893

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    nag libog gyud ko ug asa nimo na nakuha nga story, kkay kung ako ng basihan, John the Baptist, ug Jesus, same time frame, na buhi pa si John the baptist pag abot ni Jesus kinsa man tawon nag sulti nimo ana oi, kung wa kay grado motoo gyud ka ana, pero ung sakto kag grado mangita ka sa tinood unsaon nimo pag kita imong basahon
    ask ko nimo bro, unsaon nimo pagkabalo sa usa ka sekreto nga grupo, nga murag wala ni exist? secreto na bro, ky pwerteng gukod sa simbahan katoliko ana, ky this group knew the truth about Jesus and about Christ which is dili mao ilang gipalabas sa publiko. but they can never abolish or destroy a group that was created and owned by God, mao ra na ang wala nila hibaw-i, satan can never defeat God, just a glimpse of God, sulawan na si satanas. Cheers again bro!! 3rd bottle na.

  4. #894

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Messiah is from mashiach, it means what? Christos means what?
    binuang man ni imong kalaki bro. naa sa previous posts. Cheers!!

  5. #895

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    naa kapoy na kaayo na sultihan si @Jovi oi malibog ka, moingon syang daghan discrepancy sa bible unya sigehan niyag quote, dayon ni engon syang di sya motoo ni Jesus, pagka ipit na niya niengon lag kalit na sure ka si budha lng ako gitoohan?, pag mogamit kag verse dili sabton gamitan kag piniloso, pag mogamit sad kag pinilosopong tubag mogamit sad ug bible, mag bali-bali ra sige makalibog, mao ba nay gitawag ug pagtoo ug pagsalig? ako tan-aw wala na siyay salig, gikoridas man gani tanan ginooo para sure gyud hehehe
    hehehe. nice bro. klaro kaayo nag libog ka, wagtanga ang libog bro. ignore lng gud akong statement Cheers!!

  6. #896

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    nganong mangutana man mong jovi nga secret lagi daw na..hehehe mianhi ra cya aron pagpahibalo sa inyo nga naay secret.

    murag crush2 sa elementary ba, secret2.. bespren ray kabalo

    @jovi..mystic school?

  7. #897

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post

    bro, dili man gud na mao ang gisulti diha sa bible. Lisud pud kung atong kaugalingong interpretation ang tumanon kay dili magka dimao. Kung imo jud sabton bro, Jesus taught about love and forgiveness which is very different from the teachings of Krishna, Mohammed, etc...how come parehas ang God nila? Unless if we consider that God is impersonal kana duna kay point. But what's in the bible is a PERSONAL GOD!

    Sa imong level karon lets say, nana ka sa level sa mga great icons of religion kay kita na gud ka sa ginoo, kanang imong gipanghisgutan duna man jud silay spiritual achievements, unsa may imoha sad? You know bro, ang imong gihisgotan palang daan nga without desire, murag may lang naay 5% sa mga taw tibuok kalibutan mouyon ana! how come the kingdom of God ma achieve? nagkasamot man gani ang taw ug ka selfish and greedy karon, how much more sa umaabot?

    For me, mas duol2 sa tinuod ang mga prophecies sa bible about the coming reign of the Antichrist and man's character in the last days.

    peace bro!
    kang kinsa man diay na imong interpretasyon bro? si Jesus nag interpret para nimo?

    gi sharan na gani taka ug universal teachings nga pareha sila tanan, gusto man gyud nimo lahi-on gud. para man gud nimo special ang Christians. wai special oi, wai gipili ang Ginoo. gi sulti na na ni Jesus.

    basta sulti-an taka pareha ra na sila ug God. kung gi unsa ikaw nay bahala ug research ana. if you think Christians are special, then you are deceived by satan. we are all created in the same image and likeness, wai special sa Ginoo. that means ang differences are just lies/illusion or else ang Ginoo na ang imong gihimong bakakon ana.

    I have shared already verses about Impersonal God, ikaw na pud ang bahala ug pangita. ky kung akong i post ug balik, you will just ignore it. mas maayo na ikaw ang mangita

    di ko ka level anang mga great icons of religion nga imong gihisgutan bro. in fact, kabalo baya ka nga 1% ra gyud tawon ako. ah, you are asking my spiritual achievements... unya kung mo share ko, kabalo naman ko 2 rai kapaingnan, 1 is ingon ka fake, trick ug dili tinood, the other 1 is himoon ko nga bag-o nga Ginoo. hehehe. kaubo ta sa Ginoo ana. it will only be shown if necessary bro, to save a soul. You know what, si Jesus, he had shown those to prove to all people the power of the Christ within him, ang iyang mga disciples nakasabot of course ky tinudlu-an man niya, pero ang public nga wala kasabot, gihimo hinoon siyang Ginoo. There is only 1 God bro and He is your real father.

    i think kanang imong 5% murag sakto seguro na or mas lesser pa ana. mao na ang wala nimo mahibaw-i bro, you think it's hopeless na. The power of Christ can change it.

    kung para nimo ang imong interpretasyon sa bible ang sakto bro, then padayon lng bro. you can always ignore all my statements here. Cheers!!

  8. #898

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by neshem View Post
    nganong mangutana man mong jovi nga secret lagi daw na..hehehe mianhi ra cya aron pagpahibalo sa inyo nga naay secret.

    murag crush2 sa elementary ba, secret2.. bespren ray kabalo

    @jovi..mystic school?
    hahaha. secret!!

    tanan ni ako bro, religious and non religious pud. Cheers!!

  9. #899

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Luke 6
    Common English Bible (CEB)
    39 Jesus also told them a riddle. “A blind person can’t lead another blind person, right? Won’t they both fall into a ditch? 40 Disciples aren’t greater than their teacher, but whoever is fully prepared will be like their teacher. 41 Why do you see the splinter in your brother’s or sister’s eye but don’t notice the log in your own eye? 42 How can you say to your brother or sister, ‘Brother, Sister, let me take the splinter out of your eye,’ when you don’t see the log in your own eye? You deceive yourselves! First take the log out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to take the splinter out of your brother’s or sister’s eye.

    43 “A good tree doesn’t produce bad fruit, nor does a bad tree produce good fruit. 44 Each tree is known by its own fruit. People don’t gather figs from thorny plants, nor do they pick grapes from prickly bushes. 45 A good person produces good from the good treasury of the inner self, while an evil person produces evil from the evil treasury of the inner self. The inner self overflows with words that are spoken.

    46 “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord’ and don’t do what I say? 47 I’ll show what it’s like when someone comes to me, hears my words, and puts them into practice. 48 It’s like a person building a house by digging deep and laying the foundation on bedrock. When the flood came, the rising water smashed against that house, but the water couldn’t shake the house because it was well built. 49 But those who don’t put into practice what they hear are like a person who built a house without a foundation. The floodwater smashed against it and it collapsed instantly. It was completely destroyed.”

    Cheers everyone and have a great evening!!

    God Bless you all!! please pray sincerely to God, there is a super typhoon coming. It is not from God, it is bec of the evil thoughts, words and deeds nga na commit sa mga pinoy karong panahona. We'll do our best nga wai disaster nga mahitabo. Please help by praying.
    Last edited by jovipeorliohacokijo; 12-03-2012 at 01:06 AM.

  10. #900

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ask ko nimo bro, unsaon nimo pagkabalo sa usa ka sekreto nga grupo, nga murag wala ni exist? secreto na bro, ky pwerteng gukod sa simbahan katoliko ana, ky this group knew the truth about Jesus and about Christ which is dili mao ilang gipalabas sa publiko. but they can never abolish or destroy a group that was created and owned by God, mao ra na ang wala nila hibaw-i, satan can never defeat God, just a glimpse of God, sulawan na si satanas. Cheers again bro!! 3rd bottle na.
    kadakong binuang kung mauhon na bro!
    so imong pasabot katong mga martyrs nga nag offer sa ilang kinabuhi for a witness/testimony sa truth ni Jesus Christ, wala toy kwenta? nya nganong Christians raman sad ang known kayo nga grupo nga gitawag ug followers ni Christ?

    Dako kayog kalahian bro ang OCCULT ug CHRISTIANITY!

    Occult - Babylonian origin
    Christianity - Christ

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