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  1. #881

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    [QUOTE=jovipeorliohacokijo;13953101]
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Nice video share bro. kita man ko ani. Ang reincarnation nga gitudlo ni Jesus ug ni Buddha pareha ra bro. kung magdeperensya gani na, mao na ang hinimo sa tawo nga wala kasabot ug dili nilang duha. Si Jesus ug Buddha, walai mga religion, wa pud sila nag start ug religion. Nganong duna may religion? tungod ky wala nakasabot unsa ang ilang gipangtudlo. ang kani sila naa sa video, same ra pud na ninyo, lain lain lng paagi ning ila ug sa inyo. pero same same ra, religion. Kung kamo christians, maka attain ug Christhood, ug ang mga Buddhists, maka attain ug Buddhahood, wow!!!!! super nice na kaayo ang atong planet bro, mao na ang gikahadlukan ni satan nga mahitabo. hayag na kaayo ang atong kalibutan, segurado nga muhawa na si satanas diri sa atong planeta ky sulawan man na siya ug maayo. Maghari na ang Love, Kalinaw, ug Harmony diri sa atong planeta. Mao na na ang kingdom of God diri sa atong planeta nga Earth.

    sa religion bro, lahi lahi ug Gods, ky wa man sila kabalo kinsa ug unsa gyud si God. Pero silang Jesus, Moses, Abraham, David, Elijah, John the Baptist, Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II, Buddha, Mohammad, Krishna, Zoroaster, ug uban pang mga messenger ni God usa ra.
    bro, dili man gud na mao ang gisulti diha sa bible. Lisud pud kung atong kaugalingong interpretation ang tumanon kay dili magka dimao. Kung imo jud sabton bro, Jesus taught about love and forgiveness which is very different from the teachings of Krishna, Mohammed, etc...how come parehas ang God nila? Unless if we consider that God is impersonal kana duna kay point. But what's in the bible is a PERSONAL GOD!

    Sa imong level karon lets say, nana ka sa level sa mga great icons of religion kay kita na gud ka sa ginoo, kanang imong gipanghisgutan duna man jud silay spiritual achievements, unsa may imoha sad? You know bro, ang imong gihisgotan palang daan nga without desire, murag may lang naay 5% sa mga taw tibuok kalibutan mouyon ana! how come the kingdom of God ma achieve? nagkasamot man gani ang taw ug ka selfish and greedy karon, how much more sa umaabot?

    For me, mas duol2 sa tinuod ang mga prophecies sa bible about the coming reign of the Antichrist and man's character in the last days.

    peace bro!

  2. #882

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    naa kapoy na kaayo na sultihan si @Jovi oi malibog ka, moingon syang daghan discrepancy sa bible unya sigehan niyag quote, dayon ni engon syang di sya motoo ni Jesus, pagka ipit na niya niengon lag kalit na sure ka si budha lng ako gitoohan?, pag mogamit kag verse dili sabton gamitan kag piniloso, pag mogamit sad kag pinilosopong tubag mogamit sad ug bible, mag bali-bali ra sige makalibog, mao ba nay gitawag ug pagtoo ug pagsalig? ako tan-aw wala na siyay salig, gikoridas man gani tanan ginooo para sure gyud hehehe

  3. #883

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    naa kapoy na kaayo na sultihan si @Jovi oi malibog ka, moingon syang daghan discrepancy sa bible unya sigehan niyag quote, dayon ni engon syang di sya motoo ni Jesus, pagka ipit na niya niengon lag kalit na sure ka si budha lng ako gitoohan?, pag mogamit kag verse dili sabton gamitan kag piniloso, pag mogamit sad kag pinilosopong tubag mogamit sad ug bible, mag bali-bali ra sige makalibog, mao ba nay gitawag ug pagtoo ug pagsalig? ako tan-aw wala na siyay salig, gikoridas man gani tanan ginooo para sure gyud hehehe
    mahimuot man lang sad ta anang imong kuridas/karambola bro oi!


  4. #884

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    person [ˈpɜːsən]
    n pl persons
    1. an individual human being
    2. the body of a human being, sometimes including his or her clothing guns hidden on his person
    3. (Linguistics / Grammar) a grammatical category into which pronouns and forms of verbs are subdivided depending on whether they refer to the speaker, the person addressed, or some other individual, thing, etc.
    4. (Law) a human being or a corporation recognized in law as having certain rights and obligations
    5. (Philosophy) Philosophy a being characterized by consciousness, rationality, and a moral sense, and traditionally thought of as consisting of both a body and a mind or soul
    6. Archaic a character or role; guise
    in person
    a. *actually present the author will be there in person
    b. *without the help or intervention of others
    kabalo ka di gyud ta mag-abot bro, ky imoha si Jesus ug Christ usa ra. while sa akoa lahi man si Jesus ug Christ. Para nako, Si Jesus gikan ni Mary ug iyang papa (dili God), while si Christ maoy gikan ni God.

    tsismis lng na bro, ayaw too nako ky kung motoo ka nako, tabla rag wa ka ni too ug Ginoo

    Kana sila si Moses, David, John the Baptist, Jesus, ug ang 120 ka disciples ni Jesus, naa na sila grupo sauna. Mas lawom ang mga teachings ato directly from God. Lisod gyud kaayo to masabtan. Ang original Christianity, mga Jews ug Gentiles to, nga hinay hinayan ug teach ni Jesus pero di gihapon religion but naay teachings lesser sa katong group nila, mas sayon sayon masabtan sa ilang limited nga brain. Katong group nila ni Jesus, dili ang original Christianity, naa gihapon to hangtud karon sa tibook kalibutan nga ang purpose, same gihapon sa purpose sauna pa. Ang mga tao man gud sauna, pure pa, wala pai tatsa, but bec of free will, impure na. so ang group's purpose is para mabalik ang mga tao into pure state.

    Ang kanang grupuha nga ni exist gihapon hangtud karon, mao ra ang nakabalo about ni Jesus ug unsa gyud siya, namatay ba gyud siya Krus, naa ba siya asawa, mga anak, ug mga apo.
    @jovi : naa lang ko gamayng pangutana bro.....naa kay proof na ang mga disciples ni Jesus Christ naay mga gropo? kani lang sa kay busy busy pako....get in touch lang niya ko balik....

  5. #885

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    The Greek translation for 'Messiah' is khristos (χριστος), anglicized as Christ.

    Mes·si·ah(m-s)n.1. also Mes·si·as (m-ss) The anticipated savior of the Jews.
    ask sad ko bro asa gikan ang word nga Jesus ug Cross?. ask lang ko gamay fabor bro. di man ko kamao mangita gud. slamat daan bro.

  6. #886

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    Jesus is not the only Christ but siya ang pinaka popular bec of what happened in Jerusalem during his time. There were few Christs before and after him, even John the Baptist, Elijah, Elisha, Buddha, Zoroaster, Mohammad, Krishna.
    Si John the Baptist kuno kay Christ din sya pud kuno si Elijah din si Jesus kuno si Elisha matod pang jovi.. pero unsa kayha ang ingon sa bible?

    Now this was John's testimony when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, "I am not the Christ. " 21 They asked him, "Then who are you? Are you Elijah?" He said, "I am not." "Are you the Prophet?" He answered, "No."

  7. #887

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    The Greek translation for 'Messiah' is khristos (χριστος), anglicized as Christ.

    Mes·si·ah(m-s)n.1. also Mes·si·as (m-ss) The anticipated savior of the Jews.
    Messiah is from mashiach, it means what? Christos means what?

  8. #888

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by defender_1611 View Post
    @jovi : naa lang ko gamayng pangutana bro.....naa kay proof na ang mga disciples ni Jesus Christ naay mga gropo? kani lang sa kay busy busy pako....get in touch lang niya ko balik....
    dili naay mga gropo, naa silay usa ka gropo, before Moses, then Moses, David, John the Baptist, Jesus, iyang mga disciples ug hangtud karon nag exist pa. Kung unsa man nga group, i cannot tell you basta ni share lng ko nga naay gropo. Sa Bible wala kaayo na mention ni Jesus ug ni John the Baptist ky bec they belong to that group. Unsa ang mga ma mention pirmi is the other groups that they don't belong. The only proof bro is when you are in that group. That group that existed until today, knew all the secrets of Jesus, unsay nahitabo ni Jesus, ug unsa tanan about Jesus esp sa 12-30 yrs ni Jesus ug after sa iyang crucifixion. When Jesus nagpakita ni Saul/Paul to stop persecution of Christians, it was not the spirit of Jesus, he was in physical body which means buhi pa siya ug wa namatay. but kung lahi na sa imong gitohu-an bro, you can just ignore what i'm saying here. Cheers bro!! just drank 1 bottle of smb then i'll get another 1

  9. #889

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    secret man gud ng Christ bro, di man gud na masabtan ky experiencial man na, ang makasabot ra pud ana ang naka experience ra pud ug Christ. mao bitaw nga daghan dili makasabot by reading the bible, lahi ang interpretasyon sa tinood gyud nga Christ. but kung natudlu-an ka sa paagi para naa pud ka Christ nimo, makabalo ka unsa gyud ang Christ, makasabot ka sa saktong interpretasyon sa bible. Pag 12-30 yrs old ni Jesus, diin man siya? Didto siya sa Tibet, India, Persia, Assyria, Greece, ug Egypt. Daghan siya nakat-unan didto, iyang mga powers ug apil na ang Christ niya. pero di man gyud unta na isaba sa public ky di man na masabtan, ang makasabot ky iya ra mga disciples ky iya baya tong mga tinun-an, gitudlu-an pud to sila ni Jesus unsaon pag attain ang Christ. pero tungod ky naa naman prophecies and plus gipangbuhat ni Jesus nga mga miracles, daghan na siya ug followers, nabulgar gyud nga naa na siya Christ so sige gyud siya gisalon ug pangutana sa mga Pharisees and Sadducees, and iya pud mga disciples, mao ng daghan nga nangasulat about Christ which is straight nga tubag ni Jesus who had Christ in him.

    Matthew 16 (New International Version)
    Peter Declares That Jesus Is the Messiah
    13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”
    14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
    15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”
    16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
    17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[b] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[c] will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[d] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[e] loosed in heaven.” 20 Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.

    Di gyud ipasaba ni Jesus nga naa siyay Christ, nga Christ siya. Si Simon naa pud siya Christ kung kasabot ka sa verse.

    The Unconditional Love of God is in Christ. If you're Love is Unconditional Love, then you have Christ in you. If you love everybody unconditionally, including your enemies, including those who don't love you back, then you have Christ in you. But kung wala ka ana, di gyud ka kasabot maski gamay about Christ.

    Siddhārtha Gautama had Christ also ky tanan muagi man gyud ug Christ before reaching God. But he was popularly known as Buddha. "Buddha" meaning "awakened one" or "the enlightened one." Buddha can also be attained by everyone just like Christ.
    Ako nabantayan nimo jovi when the bible says Jesus IS the Christ you would understand it as Jesus HAS the Christ. They don't have the same meaning. Pastilan..

  10. #890

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    dili naay mga gropo, naa silay usa ka gropo, before Moses, then Moses, David, John the Baptist, Jesus, iyang mga disciples ug hangtud karon nag exist pa. Kung unsa man nga group, i cannot tell you basta ni share lng ko nga naay gropo. Sa Bible wala kaayo na mention ni Jesus ug ni John the Baptist ky bec they belong to that group. Unsa ang mga ma mention pirmi is the other groups that they don't belong. The only proof bro is when you are in that group. That group that existed until today, knew all the secrets of Jesus, unsay nahitabo ni Jesus, ug unsa tanan about Jesus esp sa 12-30 yrs ni Jesus ug after sa iyang crucifixion. When Jesus nagpakita ni Saul/Paul to stop persecution of Christians, it was not the spirit of Jesus, he was in physical body which means buhi pa siya ug wa namatay. but kung lahi na sa imong gitohu-an bro, you can just ignore what i'm saying here. Cheers bro!! just drank 1 bottle of smb then i'll get another 1
    nag libog gyud ko ug asa nimo na nakuha nga story, kkay kung ako ng basihan, John the Baptist, ug Jesus, same time frame, na buhi pa si John the baptist pag abot ni Jesus kinsa man tawon nag sulti nimo ana oi, kung wa kay grado motoo gyud ka ana, pero ung sakto kag grado mangita ka sa tinood unsaon nimo pag kita imong basahon

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