Blessed Pedro Calungsod

[Xian120]

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murag apil pud ko ana kay nagworship man daw ko ug idol..Lol
unya ang judging others wa nalay kwenta? hahaha

hahaha mao jud, haha, based on what he is saying murag nahadlok siya maong nituo siya.. haha

[psychemaster]

and gipasabut anang "they " kay kadtong naghimu ug imahe nga gipuli sa Ginoo ug gihimung ginoo2x..ka hinumdum kas golden calf? kadtong mga god sa egypt? kadtong iro ug ulo...gi worship maski walay kinabuhi kay statue ra...

then again, imu man nang interpretation.so imu pud na. ay lang nag himoang doktrina kay tingalig maigo ta
sa James 4:11-12

"Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor? "

tuod man, naay mga tao nga maka ingun ta sa tawhanon nga pag obserbar nga gi worship ang imahe,nag simba sa mga santos...
BUT i think we can both agree nga WALA jud ta kahibaw ug nagsimba pa jud na sa IMAHE..
because we cannot see what is inside that person's heart.

in the same way that other people think weve gone mad when we raise our hands, shout the name of Jesus,
speak in tougues, laugh and cry at the same time during worship service.
they do not see what exactly is going on inside our hearts.

asa man nag ingun dapit sa pagtulon.an sa simabahang Katoliko nga simbaha ang mga rebolto ug prehas na cla ni Jesus mediator..ug pag ampo sa mga santos kay maluwas ta...asa dapit bai?

i am not here to judge but to help you show the way. i or you will not be the judge kay Jesus will be the judge. God has given us the Bible to read. therefore I encourage everyone to read your Bible because it is our map to Heaven.

lisod kaayo mag assume ta nga padulong ta sa Heaven pero we are travelling unya the other way around.

So what is your INTERPRETATION on that quote ?

bro i will not give you my interpretation. much better ask the author and allow yourself to be guided by the Holy Spirit.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

The problem is , while reading , are you getting the EXPLANATION or the INTERPRETATION ?

Kulit paminawn noh?

[noy]

i am not here to judge but to help you show the way. i or you will not be the judge kay Jesus will be the judge. God has given us the Bible to read. therefore I encourage everyone to read your Bible because it is our map to Heaven.

lisod kaayo mag assume ta nga padulong ta sa Heaven pero we are travelling unya the other way around.



bro i will not give you my interpretation. much better ask the author and allow yourself to be guided by the Holy Spirit.

kanang muingun ka nga ang Katoliko nagsimba ug mga imahe..dili na siya paghusga?
kay as Catholic and as far as the Catholic church is concerned..i do not and cannot recall any in the Catholic church doctrines that we should worship the saints and their images..

we know Dr.jose rizal has a statue in Luneta Park..a person who really honors his noble cause...would visit his statue and talk to him as if he was alive give him flowers remembering what he did for our country...does it really follow that and maong tao nagsimba ni RIZAL?

key words there bai is HONOR and REMEMBERING.

if a pastor or bisan kinsa nga Christian being looked up to passes away( namatay)
knowing that person really led a Godly and exceptional Christian life...
and just in case because of that person's noble deeds..some of his friends and people he helped while he was alive
decides to put up a statue in honor and remembrance for that person...
does that automatically fall in IDOLATRY?

and while that person was still alive, people got used to asking Him to pray for them..
and when the same people happen to pass by the statue and talked to the statue(but we both know that it is not really the statue they were talking to but the image portrayed in that statue) asking him to pray for them to be closer to God...
does that mean nga they are worshipping the Christian/person portrayed by the statue?

Unless,ibutang ta lang ug ang ngan atong tawhana si TEBAN
muginun ang mga tao,,,TEBAN tungod sa imung kaayo...luwasa ko nga malangit ko..plus muingun pa jud nga prehas ra mu ni Jesus
mangluluwas...kana kauban sa kano maoy idolatry....

if putting a statue in honor and remembrance of great poeple is idolatry
then might as well destroy all the statues we see including those who died for our country
if asking people whom we consider more enlightened more spiritually mature than us(priest,pastor,ate kuya..) to pray for us
is already worshipping them then WE SHOULD NOT pray for each other then..

cge kung buhi pa ok ra...kung patay na kay worship na...
kung naay TAO nga grabe ka Kristohanon samtang buhi pa..HOW MUCH MORE kung patay na!!!
nga kita na jud siya ni Lord...pa ampo man gani ta sa maong tao nga buhi pa pwede pa maksala...

so wala ko kasinati sa Holy Spirit kay magpa ampo man kos santos?

if not for God and His Spirit i wouldn't even be talking about God right now...
i have spent a great deal of time HATING God,church,tradition and religion before coming to know who Christ is

don't get me wrong bai ha, i respect whatever your thoughts towards us...whether we are lost or idolaters...
that's your opinion..again imu pud na..
after all, who is NOT Lost? even the most holy and Godly person alive today still sins...so who are we to say whose Lost and not.

the scope of idolatry is very broad, our families,friends,dreams,pain,struggle,pleasures,si n,feelings,pride,our plans even etc and even our RELIGION can be our idols too..whatever,whoever takes the rightful place of our Lord Jesus is an idol.
and whenever we consider God as a last recourse,2nd choice,last line of defense is already idolatry if you think about it.therefore, who'snot guilty with idolatry?esp in our thoughts.

[necrotic freak]

bro i will not give you my interpretation. much better ask the author and allow yourself to be guided by the Holy Spirit.

buhi pa diay ang author ani psyche?

[balipseyev]

Kani ra ako masulti sa mga Bible Experts kuno...

[balipseyev]

Kani pa.....

Often Quotes Bible Verses

Forget about Mathew 16:13-20....

[mio]

Luoya siguro sa ni adto ganiha sa SRP. Init kayo ganiha hapon nya dagat pa jud duol. Lain kayong hinungaw ato.

[burn777]

wa man tingali gasto-e ug pila ka million aron mahimong santos bro. dili mana sama ug prince and princes sa barangay nga padaghanay ug solicit. hehe

ang pag celebrate nuon mao gigastoan bro..

mo simba ka bro? or dili?harap harapan paman gani ang pangayo sa pari ug donation para sa canonization ni Pedro Calungsod.

Ibayad sa Rome...

[2stroke]

sigurado man kaha ka nga gi worship jud namu ang mga Santos?
i think you are also aware about the images that moses was instructed to make for healing,altar..etc..
how about God's teaching about passing judgement to your brothers and sisters?

sa imo pagtoo wala mo nag worship mga santos or nag ampo?
wala manay problema motoo santo ang sayop diha kay mo ampo ug santos,
i know awer ka ana bai.
kato si moses gisugo to ni Jesus Christ,diba ? alangan si Mang kanor nag sugo ni moses,
kato gud bai gisugo man gud xa sa ginoo,para mao toy tanawon para maayo sila.
naa tay basihan kay naa sa BIBLE
kanang mga images bai naa kay bases nga ingon c Jesus nga ok noy
pagbuhat og pedro calungsod, or sto niño nga images or sa tanan ninyong images sa santos ?
naa kay basihan ana nga gisugo ni Jesus?
boot2x raman pod mog buhat ana. ipadokol taka unya mang kanor
naa kay basihan? ha?
kay c moses nag buhat mag altar for healing so karon inyo nalang pod padayon,
unya gisugo mo ni Jesus ?