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  1. #2441

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?


    ceasefire sa ako nasabtan ani nga thread mao man ni sya
    Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?
    murag halos tanan OT nman wa ni mag hisgot ug belief

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    Quote Originally Posted by risklight View Post
    ....btw para sa nipili ug bible try to really read the bible kung ifollow pa na ninyo daghan diha about rape,murder, judging others and other stuff
    Among ikasuggest brod ayaw pagbasa sa bible kung walay guidance or you have not received the Holy Spirit in your life kay tinuod makayabag nah. Bisan unsa paka kabright kung walay wisdom/enlightenment from God dili jud ka kasabot sa meaning diha.

    Dont treat the word of God like the rest of fiction books.

  3. #2443

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Sakto jud ka bro!
    Dali ra sad unta kayo atong destruction nahuman....lol! imagine ang nuclear bomb na discover pa lang during the times of Noah....di unta kaabot ang kalibutan ani kadugaya! Don't you know that there is an impending destruction sa kalibutan? just think daw unsay gamit anang tanang nuclear warheads of opposing nations....for peace or mass destruction? gitudlo na sa religion ang pagbuhat ana?
    lol makatawa ra ko ani how about the crusade? the inquisition? the time of Alexander the Great? how many people died for the sake of God kuno.

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Among ikasuggest brod ayaw pagbasa sa bible kung walay guidance or you have not received the Holy Spirit in your life kay tinuod makayabag nah. Bisan unsa paka kabright kung walay wisdom/enlightenment from God dili jud ka kasabot sa meaning diha.


    Dont treat the word of God like the rest of fiction books.
    lol word of God kuno man made ra man ang Bible pareha ra man sa Harry Potter or Twilight there is no solid evidence na gikan na kay God

    you know how they got people to believe in the saying of God before? gitorture nila in public till then say na they believe the bible blah blah blah
    Last edited by risklight; 11-22-2012 at 06:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by risklight View Post
    lol makatawa ra ko ani how about the crusade? the inquisition? the time of Alexander the Great? how many people died for the sake of God kuno.
    Gitudlo sa bibliya ang inquisition ug crusade bro? Kung duna may mga taw nga nakabuhat anang supak sa teachings ni Jesus Christ bro pero nagdala sa ngan nga Christianity kana naa niya ang problema wala sa bible. Sakto ka, religion ang cause posible religion gisakyan ug politics pero dili mana mao ang truth sa bible.

    Tingali wala ka kabalo part unsay truth about the result of atheism.....
    More People Have Been Killed in the Name of Atheism & Secularism than Religion?

    lol word of God kuno man made ra man ang Bible pareha ra man sa Harry Potter or Twilight there is no solid evidence na gikan na kay God
    mabaw nga reasoning brod. Just think ra gud bisan sa imoha lang mga elder family members, relatives...try to ask them asa sila mas motuo, sa bible or sa harry potter? lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Gitudlo sa bibliya ang inquisition ug crusade bro? Kung duna may mga taw nga nakabuhat anang supak sa teachings ni Jesus Christ bro pero nagdala sa ngan nga Christianity kana naa niya ang problema wala sa bible. Sakto ka, religion ang cause posible religion gisakyan ug politics pero dili mana mao ang truth sa bible.

    Tingali wala ka kabalo part unsay truth about the result of atheism.....
    More People Have Been Killed in the Name of Atheism & Secularism than Religion?



    mabaw nga reasoning brod. Just think ra gud bisan sa imoha lang mga elder family members, relatives...try to ask them asa sila mas motuo, sa bible or sa harry potter? lol...
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    lol makatawa ra ko nimu bro naglink ka ug article but you didn''t even bother reading it fail ka kaayo oi let me post what were written in the article ha

    How Many Have Been Killed by Communists in the Name of Atheism & Secularism?:


    None, probably. How can that be? After all, millions and millions of people died in Russia and China under communist governments — and those governments were both secular and atheistic. So weren't all of those people killed because of atheism — even in the name of atheism and secularism? No, that conclusion does not follow. Atheism itself isn't a principle, cause, philosophy, or belief system which people fight, die, or kill for. Being killed by an atheist is no more being killed in the name of atheism than being killed by a tall person is being killed in the name of tallness. Communists Don't Kill in the Name of Atheism...

    Hitler Was an Atheist Who Killed Millions in the Name of Atheism, Secularism:


    A popular image of the Nazis is that they were fundamentally anti-Christian while devout Christians were anti-Nazi. The truth is that German Christians supported the Nazis because they believed that Adolf Hitler was a gift to the German people from God. Hitler frequently referenced God and Christianity both in public and private. The Nazi Party Program explicitly endorsed and promoted Christianity in the party platform. Millions of Christians in Germany not only enthusiastically supported and endorsed Hitler and the Nazis, but did so on the basis of common Christian beliefs and attitudes. Hitler Was Not an Atheist...

    ayaw ug pataka link2 ug article bro ikaw ra mapahiya

    karun how many people was killed in the name of God?

    ExChristian.Net - Articles: How many people have been killed by Christians since Biblical times?
    Last edited by risklight; 11-22-2012 at 07:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    If that is what you believed, wala koy right mo violate ana. Likewise sa mga theists.
    Ang nakanindot lang if youre in the position of believing in God while pursuing science is that youre safe and confident sa imong pagsearch deeper sa kamatuoran.
    I don't think so. Since we're talking about the Bible vs Science - if you believe the biblical account that the earth is more or less 6,000 years old, you've already stopped performing science. What's the point of doing the scientific process of finding out the age of the earth when you already believe without a doubt that 6,000 years is the "correct" answer?

    Let's say you choose to continue doing honest science but then you encounter insurmountable evidence that the earth is in fact about 4 billion years old, how would you go about it? You can't possibly say "after much experimentation based on the available evidence, and under the scrutiny of peer-review, I have found that the earth is approximately around 4.5 billion years old. BUT --- I still believe it's only 6,000 years old." At that point you're just being dishonest. Either one or the other has to go.

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    lol makatawa ra ko nimu bro naglink ka ug article but you didn''t even bother reading it fail ka kaayo oi let me post what were written in the article ha.....
    ayaw ug pataka link2 ug article bro ikaw ra mapahiya
    lol sorry part.....wala man gud QC diri! \
    bitaw, wala nako magmind sa akong links coz im still on duty...hehhe. im making references even sa opposing side.

    quoted...
    In the name of creating their version of a religion-free utopia, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong produced the kind of mass slaughter that no Inquisitor could possibly match. Collectively these atheist tyrants murdered more than 100 million people.
    Christian philosophers and theologians explain that there are causal links between mass murder and atheism. Atheism, lack belief in God, have the following characteristics that can lend itself to mass murder and can explain why the greatest mass murderers were atheists:

    • lack of recognition of an ultimate judge of moral actions and a judge who sets injustice aright in a last judgement, and thus do not recognize the immorality of murder.
    • lack of seeing the importance of human beings as images of God and so easily discarding them as merely material things, products of mere chance.
    • lack of acknowledging an external standard of moral perfection, thus ending up with self-created standards which can include killing for political survival.
    • absence of guidance by divine revelation of the moral law, such as "Thou shalt not kill".
    • following an ethic of atheistic evolutionism that is based on the survival and victory of the fittest, which is ultimately a "bloodthirsty ethic", the words of Joseph Ratzinger, that is an ethic that is eager to kill and to maim. This ethic is about conquering others rather than self-conquest.[14].



    Kani brod murag mao na jud ni nga link pasensya na.....

    Atheism and Mass Murder - Conservapedia

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    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    They said, even if God will provide a thousand/million ways to Him, man will still look from a thousand/million and one....because of his fallen nature. We should be thankful instead of the one but sure way to God, the Lord Jesus Christ!
    so meaning Jesus Christ is God? or siya ang anak?..unsa man gyud?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    wa man nag thread ug pila nay edad earth boss, ang thread is "Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?"
    detailed man gud daw ang bible bro... mao ni ask ko..

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    hi bro, kindly check this link..The Bible | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry
    it will give you great insights about the bible's authenticity. thanks
    *facepalm.... authentic jud bro..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    lol sorry part.....wala man gud QC diri! \
    bitaw, wala nako magmind sa akong links coz im still on duty...hehhe. im making references even sa opposing side.

    quoted...
    In the name of creating their version of a religion-free utopia, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong produced the kind of mass slaughter that no Inquisitor could possibly match. Collectively these atheist tyrants murdered more than 100 million people.
    Christian philosophers and theologians explain that there are causal links between mass murder and atheism. Atheism, lack belief in God, have the following characteristics that can lend itself to mass murder and can explain why the greatest mass murderers were atheists:

    • lack of recognition of an ultimate judge of moral actions and a judge who sets injustice aright in a last judgement, and thus do not recognize the immorality of murder.
    • lack of seeing the importance of human beings as images of God and so easily discarding them as merely material things, products of mere chance.
    • lack of acknowledging an external standard of moral perfection, thus ending up with self-created standards which can include killing for political survival.
    • absence of guidance by divine revelation of the moral law, such as "Thou shalt not kill".
    • following an ethic of atheistic evolutionism that is based on the survival and victory of the fittest, which is ultimately a "bloodthirsty ethic", the words of Joseph Ratzinger, that is an ethic that is eager to kill and to maim. This ethic is about conquering others rather than self-conquest.[14].



    Kani brod murag mao na jud ni nga link pasensya na.....

    Atheism and Mass Murder - Conservapedia

    another false claim na sad

    these people killed all those not because they believe in God and won't betray their beliefs but the people just oppose them

    kasabot ka sa difference bro?

    I would imagine you mean Stalin, Mao Zedong and possibly Hitler (though Hitler is controversial about his religion). The difference there is that they did not kill people BECAUSE they were atheists, they killed those people because they wanted to be in power and keep in power; compare that to Christians who kill heathens because those people are heathens, plain and simple.

    To say they killed those people because they were atheists is like saying Stalin killed people because he was Georgian, or moustached, or that Mao Zedong killed because he was Chinese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by risklight View Post
    another false claim na sad

    these people killed all those not because they believe in God and won't betray their beliefs but the people just oppose them

    kasabot ka sa difference bro?

    I would imagine you mean Stalin, Mao Zedong and possibly Hitler (though Hitler is controversial about his religion). The difference there is that they did not kill people BECAUSE they were atheists, they killed those people because they wanted to be in power and keep in power; compare that to Christians who kill heathens because those people are heathens, plain and simple.

    To say they killed those people because they were atheists is like saying Stalin killed people because he was Georgian, or moustached, or that Mao Zedong killed because he was Chinese.
    No need to argue bro kung nakasabot ka on the idea behind atheism....kung para nimo makaayo na sa imong pamilya, go ahead and convince your family members and relatives.

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