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  1. #641

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    daghan man gani sayup ang Science nga maoy inyung gibasehan, so daku change naa sad mu sayop
    ahh d man kaha ka palaban sa doctor kon masakit ka.. madala raman kaha ng ampo o pamisa sa pari hehehe..

  2. #642

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    @jovi
    asa naman diay tong original sin bro?
    Ayaw tudloi ang bata sa pagbuhat ug sala, one day magpakasala jud na sya.....

    I extracted this one from R.C. Sproul, one of my favorite authors….mas nindot man ilang idea bro.

    "Original sin," meaning sin derived from our origin, is not a biblical phrase (it comes from Augustine), but it does bring into focus the reality of sin in our spiritual system. Original sin does not mean that sin belongs to human nature as such; "God made man upright" (Eccl. 7:29). Nor does it mean that the processes of reproduction and birth are sinful...Rather, "original sin" means that sinfulness marks everyone from birth, in the form of a heart inclined toward sin, prior to any actual sins; this inner sinfulness is the root and source of all actual sins; it is transmitted to us from Adam, our first representative before God.

    The doctrine of original sin makes the point that we are not sinners because we sin, but we sin because we are sinners, born with a nature enslaved to sin.

    Ang bata bro, kung naa pa siya sa tyan sa iyang mama, naa nay soul or wala pa?
    I have less knowledge about this bro, but hope this would help us frame the truth from the bible….i also learned this one from my favorite sources…

    In the bible, especially Psalm 139, it says…
    "O Lord, you have searched me and known me! You know when I sit down and when I rise up; you discern my thoughts from afar. You search out my path and my lying down and are acquainted with all my ways. Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O Lord, you know it altogether."

    According to this chapter, God has a very intimate knowledge of us, kabalo sya tanan2 sa atong pagkataw and it also says that His knowledge extends to everywhere, including the womb.

    Psalm 139:7…
    Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence?... For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth.

    Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there were none of them.

    Here it seems God treat this unformed substance as though it has a soul. I also think it is reasonable to say the new clump of cells is a new individual.

    What do you think bro?
    Last edited by Breakeven; 11-20-2012 at 06:12 PM.

  3. #643

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    and does your belief put you on a higher level of ascendancy above other form of belief?
    Nope, definitely NOT. Its Not what my belief thought me...My belief teaches Humility thus it did Not teach us to judge or conclude things while buhi pa...

    BUT we search and we compare, if you cant explain all the reasons behind your belief - then for me, you are wrong.

  4. #644

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    ur w/ metrobank i d i hehhe.. u think paman d i so wala pay kasigoran..
    Sa Theist lagi ig ka matay ra ang Truth. Pero while naa pata sa kalibutan nya ikaw di gani ka maka DISPROVE sa akong belief, belief nga para nko wa pay kasiguruhan - Unsa nlan kaha nang imuha...

  5. #645

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    ahh d man kaha ka palaban sa doctor kon masakit ka.. madala raman kaha ng ampo o pamisa sa pari hehehe..
    Nonsense reply. lagpas ra kaayu sa topic...

  6. #646

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Nonsense reply. lagpas ra kaayu sa topic...
    kaw ray ingon daghan sayop science..

  7. #647

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Nope, definitely NOT. Its Not what my belief thought me...My belief teaches Humility thus it did Not teach us to judge or conclude things while buhi pa...

    BUT we search and we compare, if you cant explain all the reasons behind your belief - then for me, you are wrong.
    saying other beliefs are wrong seem to me one way of saying that you are more right than all of them, even went on to saying that science that man discovered is sayop, yet you depend on it, we all depend on it..

    i dont need to explain to you the reasons behind my belief or their belief for that matter, the burden of proof lies to those that proselytizes, im not here to do that... whether you based your belief on some primitive book or to the studies of man which brought about our industrial advancement, that all depends upon you.. but you cannot dare say that you are right and they are wrong because they base their belief on wrong premises or some limited science that according to you is limited therefore sayop,. these assumptions to me is not a product of a religion which you say teaches humility...

    i am NOT wrong sir, i can believe everything that brings me closer to the truth.. i dont need to understand atomic structures, String theory or Higgs Boson to believe in what i do,

    a belief based on untested philosophical intuition may be right, but not necessarily have to be true..

  8. #648

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @jovi


    I extracted this one from R.C. Sproul, one of my favorite authors….mas nindot man ilang idea bro.

    "Original sin," meaning sin derived from our origin, is not a biblical phrase (it comes from Augustine), but it does bring into focus the reality of sin in our spiritual system. Original sin does not mean that sin belongs to human nature as such; "God made man upright" (Eccl. 7:29). Nor does it mean that the processes of reproduction and birth are sinful...Rather, "original sin" means that sinfulness marks everyone from birth, in the form of a heart inclined toward sin, prior to any actual sins; this inner sinfulness is the root and source of all actual sins; it is transmitted to us from Adam, our first representative before God.

    The doctrine of original sin makes the point that we are not sinners because we sin, but we sin because we are sinners, born with a nature enslaved to sin.



    I have less knowledge about this bro, but hope this would help us frame the truth from the bible….i also learned this one from my favorite sources…

    In the bible, especially Psalm 139, it says…
    "O Lord, you have searched me and known me! You know when I sit down and when I rise up; you discern my thoughts from afar. You search out my path and my lying down and are acquainted with all my ways. Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O Lord, you know it altogether."

    According to this chapter, God has a very intimate knowledge of us, kabalo sya tanan2 sa atong pagkataw and it also says that His knowledge extends to everywhere, including the womb.

    Psalm 139:7…
    Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence?... For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth.

    Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there were none of them.

    Here it seems God treat this unformed substance as though it has a soul. I also think it is reasonable to say the new clump of cells is a new individual.

    What do you think bro?
    kanindot sa mga verse bro, kung nakasabot pa lng unta ka sa pinaka unod sa maong mga verse, you will be very happy.

    ang baby sa womb wala pai soul. kanus-a man kaha magka soul ang baby?

  9. #649

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    kaw ray ingon daghan sayop science..
    Nya unsay sabot nimu sa Word nga daghan? same ra sa TANAN? naunsa baya ka...

  10. #650

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    ro, if God is the creator do you think dili sya pwede mo destroy? Have you not thought of natural calamities, or asteroids bashing other heavenly bodies? kung gustoon sa ginoo bro pwed jud padakdakan ta ug usa lang ka asteroid ang earth to finish everything.....calamities are probably allowed for sinners to realize life on earth is but temporary......but because of His Love and mercy to his creation nagpadayon ang tuyok sa kalibutan....and we continue breathing fresh air everyday...do you think it is from an impersonal God?

    Kahayahay gud ni Satan kung pasagdan lang sya sa ginoo tig guba sa iyang plano... Ginoo tigporma- Satan tig-guba?.....walay right si Satan mo destroy totally sa iyang creation. That's why there is an end to all these evil.....Satan will be cast into outer darkness in the end and the unbelieving will be judged. Literal or not basta naay judgment to those who were given freewill ug intellect!
    Nganong wala na lng gi destroy ni God si Satan ug iyang mga kampi bro?

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