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  1. #2151

    Default Re: Questions for the Atheists


    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Did I say nga ayaw mu tuo sa science? Did i say I hate science? wala man cguro.

    Ang Topic man gud diri akong balikon ha is this:

    Ang nga mga Atheist mu ingun nga way Ginoo unya ilang gamiton nga basis sa ilang Belief is ang Limited Science. So topic is Pwedi ba diay gamiton ang Limited Science to explain the Unseen God?

    If mutoo ka nga naay Supreme being murag wa guro tay lalisan ana bahina
    galibog man gani ang science og explain sa big bang..ganahan na pod nila ilisan ang model.

  2. #2152

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    mangutana tang eli soriano ana bro... hehehhe
    Lol! maypa....

  3. #2153

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    Lol..myth diay to? hahaha..however apart from knowledge of the immideate things...there are things nga lisud tukion sa atong huna-huna...like sa supernatural ug paranoemal nga side...until karun wala pa kaau maka explain ani..so if di man gani 10%
    our lquestions about life, uncertainty...you know things of the unkown, even kadtong atong nahisgutan about nganu di makontento ang tao?why ang tao is always inclined to do good...it still shows a poor percentage regarding our understanding of things...of course bai, as a human being proud kaau ko sa mga discoveries oi..if what you're saying is that eventually muabut ang time nga maka answer ra ang science tanan puhon2x...as we look back through the time line of scientific discoveries how humanity progressed...
    but the simple answer to purpose and reason is still hanging pa man gani bai.
    the very progress of our humanity is already a proof that man is in search for something...greater than what currently the geatest...though we are happy but why does our inner being would always long for something greater...
    as if we are trying to fit eternity in this limited world?why do we humans are inclined to increase?
    why do we long for something eternal if our last breath is the end of us?
    that question however has been here for ages, techinology has developed greatly yet still the answer to those questions are still nowhere to be found...that longing won't make sense unless eternity exists
    kana bro are questions needing Philosophical answers.. questions about purpose and meaning and all those spiritual stuff.. in faith can you see the answers for that, like i said before we should not confuse ourselves with PHysical truth and the Philosophical truth.. yes di mana matubag sa science, kay ang tubag ana can be found only within ourselves, individual ang tubag ana, depende ra kong giunsa nimo pagtan-aw ang kalibutan ug ang imong kaugalingon.. let me rephrase Maslow's phrase.. "If you see the world as a hammer, you see yourself as a nail".. your Philosophical perception sa kalibutan nag depende rjud sa imong perception sa imong kaugalingon kong unsa ka...

    when dealing with Questions of purpose and meaning we must all look within ourselves, religion can only do much as to help you search within yourself, but the doing all lies to you..

  4. #2154

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Did I say nga ayaw mu tuo sa science? Did i say I hate science? wala man cguro.

    Ang Topic man gud diri akong balikon ha is this:

    Ang nga mga Atheist mu ingun nga way Ginoo unya ilang gamiton nga basis sa ilang Belief is ang Limited Science. So topic is Pwedi ba diay gamiton ang Limited Science to explain the Unseen God?

    If mutoo ka nga naay Supreme being murag wa guro tay lalisan ana bahina
    aw..

    haha, Science was never used to explain the existence of a God.. God is a Philosophical entity, born in the mind, conceived in the mind therefore exists only in the mind, at least that's what we believe...

  5. #2155

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    kana bro are questions needing Philosophical answers.. questions about purpose and meaning and all those spiritual stuff.. in faith can you see the answers for that, like i said before we should not confuse ourselves with PHysical truth and the Philosophical truth.. yes di mana matubag sa science, kay ang tubag ana can be found only within ourselves, individual ang tubag ana, depende ra kong giunsa nimo pagtan-aw ang kalibutan ug ang imong kaugalingon.. let me rephrase Maslow's phrase.. "If you see the world as a hammer, you see yourself as a nail".. your Philosophical perception sa kalibutan nag depende rjud sa imong perception sa imong kaugalingon kong unsa ka...

    when dealing with Questions of purpose and meaning we must all look within ourselves, religion can only do much as to help you search within yourself, but the doing all lies to you..
    sakto man na kang Maslow mao ng importante nga ang pangitaon ang sakto nga perception. kay di man puede nga tanan perception tinood naa man jud nay di tinood or bakak.

  6. #2156

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    aw..

    haha, Science was never used to explain the existence of a God.. God is a Philosophical entity, born in the mind, conceived in the mind therefore exists only in the mind, at least that's what we believe...
    good nga naka sabot naka nga science can never be used to explain God.

    on your next point tho..i disagree. ang sakto nga perception mao ni...Logic ang gigamit sa philosophy bai to explain God so are you saying nga useless ang logic?

  7. #2157

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranzzz View Post
    @SioDenz: mao jud..dako jud na nga problema kung naa.. d man pud tingale ka e labay sa hell tungod ana kay ang ginoo man mismo ni hatag nato ug free will..gawas kung ng rape ka dha or unsa hehehe
    kana maoy pangutana nga si Lord ray makatubag..hehehehe

    our freewill can either make or break us bai...it's either a burden or a gift...
    but matud pang newton, in every action there is always an opposite reaction...

    we always have a lifetime to figure things out...problema lang, is wala ta kahibaw kanus.a and deadline sa pag tuki...

    kung kasuway ka nga na mis interpret by a very close friend bai?mao2x ra pud na..
    nya bisan unsaon nimu ug explain gi lantad na nimu sa atubangan sa tao nga nag misinterpret sa imu kung di jud na mutoo nimu,magpabilin jud kang bati sa iya...is it your loss?obviously no..it's your friend's loss...
    'cause he lost a friend,ka ginansya pa ug bitterness

    same concept applies to our understanding and belief about God, if He does exist, then He is the most misinterpreted individual..
    for all we know, he might have explained and revealed himself already but we just chose not to consider.
    and if heaven and hell were true, then asa man gani ta padung..our choice plays a major role.

  8. #2158

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranzzz View Post
    @noy: btaw hehehe dli lang tingale na main cause of division ang religion pero it's one of them.
    pride and selfishness maoy cause para nako bai...unsaon ta man, naa man pud nang mga kinaiyaha sa ubang tao nga nagsunod ug nagpadagan sa religion...hehehehe.. kung sa salida pa nga angels and demons, religion is flawed 'cause men are..
    para nako isip Christiano..ang religion maoy maka giya ug hulma sa akong pagkatao...pero mas importante ang relasyon sa Ginoo nga maoy makapaingun nga mahuhat ang maong pagtulun.an sa relihiyon

    'cause one may be religious while not following Christ's teachings..

  9. #2159

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandirigma View Post
    according to my belief you'll go to hell.
    nganu man nkaingon ka ana? kabaw diay ka sa huna-huna sa Ginoo?

  10. #2160

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    kana bro are questions needing Philosophical answers.. questions about purpose and meaning and all those spiritual stuff.. in faith can you see the answers for that, like i said before we should not confuse ourselves with PHysical truth and the Philosophical truth.. yes di mana matubag sa science, kay ang tubag ana can be found only within ourselves, individual ang tubag ana, depende ra kong giunsa nimo pagtan-aw ang kalibutan ug ang imong kaugalingon.. let me rephrase Maslow's phrase.. "If you see the world as a hammer, you see yourself as a nail".. your Philosophical perception sa kalibutan nag depende rjud sa imong perception sa imong kaugalingon kong unsa ka...

    when dealing with Questions of purpose and meaning we must all look within ourselves, religion can only do much as to help you search within yourself, but the doing all lies to you..
    i would agree in most part jud bai pramis! hahaha esp sa part nga it depends on how we see the world

    but in this life, when the philosophical and physical truth collides...unsaon man na nato pag reconcile?
    science can provide us physical proofs but not even the entirety of it mao nay point nga gi stress out ni siodenz diba regarding the belief and unbelief of God..

    let's say if the belief of God is only something philosophical (philosophical int he sense that most people who believe in God focus on the philosophical truths like how the bible or holy books explain things) nag base ra pud ko sa imu gisulti bai ha..hehehe

    then why are using physical truth to decide whether God exists or not? especially that the physical truth we hold is only a portion of the universal truth? and what if the philosphical truth about God holds a larger portion of the universal truth if there is God, unsaon man na nato?

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