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  1. #1881

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorothea View Post
    @SioDenz -- I'm a sis! Balik2x man gud inyong mga estorya, whether atheists or believers. Parang sirang plaka ba.
    Yup balik balik para sa imuha But for some lahi man. Some are here expressing their belief para basin naa sila makat unan sa reason sa uban. Some post here to defend their belief. So maybe para sa imuha balik balik but sa uban naa sad sila makat unan, lain lain man tag purpose sa pagbasa or post ngari mao bitaw General section ni. The world does Not revolve around Us, theres OTHER people that we need to consider also. If the post does Not affect YOU, maybe it does for others..

  2. #1882

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    leave them alone, every people has their right to choose, freedom of religion and beliefs man gud and this is a free world, we should not be certain cause this world is full of uncertainty, mo repent lang ta if sayup ato beliefs if we passed away and faced the creator and to those who believe naa creator and wala diay so its like that..

  3. #1883

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    Ang akoa nalibugan lang ani na thread kay ang title "Questions for the Atheists", nganong naa may mga nasaag diri? Respetuay lang ta sa atong gitouhan kay kada tawo, lain2x man ang pagtuo.

  4. #1884

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2stroke View Post
    mao jud ako gusto kana hizuka kay naa na xay thread nga power2x. nahan ko ma tryan iyahang gahom. hahahaha power na hizuka. hahahaha
    ingon ba diay kog powers to LOL .. pwede pud to nako usabon ang mga words into something of devine related, like "seeing while nagapiyong" = "Guided by holy spirit" etc.. para daghan ang motoo.. .. ingun - ana mn pud btaw ang style sa uban ba ang mangilad para lang jud motoo ang katawhan..

  5. #1885

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epitaph View Post
    akong basis? stars are born everyday... creationism is absurd.... life on earth is by chance... earth is 14.5 billion years old nd mankind has been around a hundred thousand years... on the first day there was light and on the fourth day the light source was created... ang nakalisod aning belief system nato kay ingon ani.... for example... prayer---->yes----god is good; prayer---------> no; god works in mysterious ways... we reason it out beyond logical thinking nya always gaan nato ug excuse in favor sa atong pagtuo... mao btaw nangeskwela ta para sakto ato dispostion sa mga butang butang nya isalig na dayn nato kay lage naay ginoo nga nakahibaw tanan? and yet he had abraham sacrificed his son in order to know if he is obedient to him?? murag way logic.... if god is perfect y wud u giv praises to someone hu is perfect nd someone like u giving him praise? does not make sense...
    yep stars are born everyday and stars also die everyday..does it discredit God's existence?
    is it because of what the bible say about how the universe or earth was created?
    i think that is not to be taken literally..'cause in the first place, we don't really know if the author of Genesis
    meant it literally..1 day for God could be a million years 'cause God is not really bound by time is He?
    anyway, you still havent answered my question...How reliable is your source?

    qouting the reason for us getting education so that we can think logically(by logically you mean not to believe in something at least proven) then how can you believe that there is no God? when it hasn't been proven either?
    i hope you are not equating believers to being unreasonable and illogical(in a negative way).
    how would you reconcile the great minds both in history and present in Science and Logic who believed that there is God..some of them even believed in a personal God... Like CS Lewis who converted from aetheism to Christianity..are you saying that his convertion was out of ignorance and failure in Logic? if you are an aetheist for sure you know who anthony flew is? though not a Christian but was awed by the complexities and specifics of the universe..therefore concluding that there is indeed an intelligent design..

    prayer--yes--God is good,prayer--no--God works in mysterious ways..
    how many times have you experienced "blessing in disguise" where you previously hated and even ashamed of what happened...
    but eventually as time goes by, you find yourself thanking that it happened..'cause it actually made you a better person...
    isn't that a mystery?

    about Abraham sacrificing His Son,did you know that when He was about to Sacrifice His son...God's angel stopped Him?
    it is of the same concept where you had to give up your most treasured something in this world to follow God..
    in Abraham's case, Isaac was His most treasured one, as He is His first born espically in his old age..
    we too have many Isaac in our lives...for example...we need to give up our love for money...to be free from greed...
    as we are to lay down our pride to understand humility...
    as others qoute "to prove how much you love a person is that you must be willing to let that person go"
    and "best part of holding on is letting go"...
    Abraham on the contrary was not like many of us today, He was willing to let his only son go for the sake of His Love for God..
    in which He believes who owns everything he ever had...and in return, God blessed Him in a thousand folds..even called as the Father of all Nation..
    in the same way that the person who works hard in an honest way,gave up greed...achieved success in life...
    in the same the humble is praised.
    the same concept also applies to God giving His Only Son just to prove that you and i are very dear to Him.

    Logically speaking if God owns everything and can give Abraham anything...
    then why would abraham hold something back for God?
    it somehow reminds us of what the scripture says about seeking Gods' kingdom and righteousness first
    and all of the other things we need will be given to us..
    reminds us of the famous slogans or sayings..."God First and the rest will follow"...
    and if you take care of what is important to God, God will take care of what is imporatant to you..
    you know, something like that

    God is still God even if we don't believe and praise Him, but if Heaven and Hell were true(to be fair with unbelievers)
    then not believing in God would certainly be of great importance to man's eternal destiny.

    since you dearly most want to talk about Logic..by Logic, a person ought to be practical right?
    a person who is logical, most likely that same person would also go for what is practical..

    which is more practical, to believe and live a life as if there is God, then die finding out there isn't
    or to believe and live as if there is no God, then die finding out there is..

    again bai, this is just like a regular conversation between 2 people who happen to have different ideas that's all..
    i respect whatever your belief is...this argument is just for the sake of discussion..
    Last edited by noy; 10-29-2012 at 08:07 PM.

  6. #1886

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devian View Post
    so this means daghan fake christians sa phils? then we should not call our country a christian country kay di man ta kabalo pila ra ni ang tinuod.

    asa na to imong gi ingon daghan nausab?
    ako bro nausab ko

  7. #1887

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2stroke View Post
    mao jud,lisod man gud pasabton ang mga tao nga naa nay gitoohan nga para nila sakto,
    lahi ilang gitohoan nga para nila sakto, ug kita lahi pod ato gitoohan nga para nato sakto.
    kay kita nagtoo nga cla sayop,ug cla pod nagtoo nga kita ang sayop. vice versa rana murag jep
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorothea View Post
    @SioDenz -- I'm a sis! Balik2x man gud inyong mga estorya, whether atheists or believers. Parang sirang plaka ba.
    mao nay ginaingon nga if you dont vote, don't complain.. its not about being right my friends, it's about practicing your right to decide what to think, its either you believe or you dont, so asa man mo? state your belief first before complaining, else you dont belong here..

  8. #1888

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    yep stars are born everyday and stars also die everyday..does it discredit God's existence?
    is it because of what the bible say about how the universe or earth was created?
    i think that is not to be taken literally..'cause in the first place, we don't really know if the author of Genesis
    meant it literally..1 day for God could be a million years 'cause God is not really bound by time is He?
    anyway, you still havent answered my question...How reliable is your source?

    qouting the reason for us getting education so that we can think logically(by logically you mean not to believe in something at least proven) then how can you believe that there is no God? when it hasn't been proven either?
    i hope you are not equating believers to being unreasonable and illogical(in a negative way).
    how would you reconcile the great minds both in history and present in Science and Logic who believed that there is God..some of them even believed in a personal God... Like CS Lewis who converted from aetheism to Christianity..are you saying that his convertion was out of ignorance and failure in Logic? if you are an aetheist for sure you know who anthony flew is? though not a Christian but was awed by the complexities and specifics of the universe..therefore concluding that there is indeed an intelligent design..

    prayer--yes--God is good,prayer--no--God works in mysterious ways..
    how many times have you experienced "blessing in disguise" where you previously hated and even ashamed of what happened...
    but eventually as time goes by, you find yourself thanking that it happened..'cause it actually made you a better person...
    isn't that a mystery?

    about Abraham sacrificing His Son,did you know that when He was about to Sacrifice His son...God's angel stopped Him?
    it is of the same concept where you had to give up your most treasured something in this world to follow God..
    in Abraham's case, Isaac was His most treasured one, as He is His first born espically in his old age..
    we too have many Isaac in our lives...for example...we need to give up our love for money...to be free from greed...
    as we are to lay down our pride to understand humility...
    as others qoute "to prove how much you love a person is that you must be willing to let that person go"
    and "best part of holding on is letting go"...
    Abraham on the contrary was not like many of us today, He was willing to let his only son go for the sake of His Love for God..
    in which He believes who owns everything he ever had...and in return, God blessed Him in a thousand folds..even called as the Father of all Nation..
    in the same way that the person who works hard in an honest way,gave up greed...achieved success in life...
    in the same the humble is praised.
    the same concept also applies to God giving His Only Son just to prove that you and i are very dear to Him.

    Logically speaking if God owns everything and can give Abraham anything...
    then why would abraham hold something back for God?
    it somehow reminds us of what the scripture says about seeking Gods' kingdom and righteousness first
    and all of the other things we need will be given to us..
    reminds us of the famous slogans or sayings..."God First and the rest will follow"...
    and if you take care of what is important to God, God will take care of what is imporatant to you..
    you know, something like that

    God is still God even if we don't believe and praise Him, but if Heaven and Hell were true(to be fair with unbelievers)
    then not believing in God would certainly be of great importance to man's eternal destiny.

    since you dearly most want to talk about Logic..by Logic, a person ought to be practical right?
    a person who is logical, most likely that same person would also go for what is practical..

    which is more practical, to believe and live a life as if there is God, then die finding out there isn't
    or to believe and live as if there is no God, then die finding out there is..

    again bai, this is just like a regular conversation between 2 people who happen to have different ideas that's all..
    i respect whatever your belief is...this argument is just for the sake of discussion..
    two thumbs up for this bro
    i really like the way you expound something....thanks! youre really a blessing to us @noy.

  9. #1889

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    agi lang ku, wala kuy ma comment kay na comment na tnan haha

  10. #1890

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    agi lang ku, wala kuy ma comment kay na comment na tnan haha
    paghuna huna ug bag-o para mutaas ang Thread

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