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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    why not?'cause you have to know all things to conclude God does not exist, 'cause God is simply not like a science project or experiment that can be observed of.

    definitely i am not God therefore i acknowledge His existence..not only through personal experience and holy books...
    but by the very fact that since science and civilization started, we haven't still landed with a definite conclusion and explanation about the things seen and unseen in this universe..the universe alone is one, its structure and design,its order as if it is following a specific law..the distance between earth and moon which greatly affects the lunar gravitational pull...earth's distance from the sun...DNA,life's toughest questions... i could go on whole day...
    the different belief systems is outside the context 'cause the topic here is whether God exists or not...
    and you concluding that He does not, therefore you must know all things to come up with that conclusion and for that...and id you know all things,then you must be God...
    there's a huge difference between saying i think there's no God and i know there's no God.

    the burden of proof does not lie in those who believe bai 'cause long before early science and whatever the first religion was came in to the picture...the belief in someone we call GOD is already there...early people even thought the sun was God Lol point is, long before the belief of deity is already there...then came a time that
    people started concluding that there's no God..

    if you find it illogical to believe in a God whose existence has not yet been proven..
    think twice, 'cause proof is relative..no proof needed for those who believe but no proof is ever valid
    for those who do not..
    which is more logical,
    to believe in God because of failing to understand everything..
    or to not believe in God because the proof is lacking..
    please know that the proof of His existence does not necessarily adjust on our understanding of what proof is.
    unless we the absoluteness of all things

    so again, How reliable is your basis? you never answered my question.

    and relax lang ta bai ha...this is just a discussion between 2 opposing beliefs

    akong basis? stars are born everyday... creationism is absurd.... life on earth is by chance... earth is 14.5 billion years old nd mankind has been around a hundred thousand years... on the first day there was light and on the fourth day the light source was created... ang nakalisod aning belief system nato kay ingon ani.... for example... prayer---->yes----god is good; prayer---------> no; god works in mysterious ways... we reason it out beyond logical thinking nya always gaan nato ug excuse in favor sa atong pagtuo... mao btaw nangeskwela ta para sakto ato dispostion sa mga butang butang nya isalig na dayn nato kay lage naay ginoo nga nakahibaw tanan? and yet he had abraham sacrificed his son in order to know if he is obedient to him?? murag way logic.... if god is perfect y wud u giv praises to someone hu is perfect nd someone like u giving him praise? does not make sense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Mas advantage ang nituo part coz there are tons of historical records. Ang problema if you say there is none pero walay records:_) hehehhe. unsa may i record nila nga wala man silay revelations sad sa ginoo? hahaha.

    huh? kinahanglan gyud ang ginoo para naay record sa history? advantage ang nituo? pagkat-on nimo one plus one gigamitan nimo ug ginoo? gamiti kuno ug ginoo ang one plus one kung naa bay mausab? ang sumerians naka record within tablets sa ila civilization... nakaila ba sila sa imong ginoo? ang mga aztecs, nakarecord pero gidauban sa mga katsila nga pari... unsa naman atong gamiton para ma enhance ato knowledge sa ancients? wala na kay gipulihan nato ug ignorance ky ang aztecs matud pa sa mga conquistadors maka demonyo kuno ila kultura. nihatag na ug conclusion wala pa gani nila sutaa ngano barbaric ang mga rituals sa aztecs....

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    Default Re: Questions for the Atheists

    Quote Originally Posted by Epitaph View Post
    u can not prove the bible by using the bible
    kinsa may gagama anang bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peenut View Post
    kinsa may gagama anang bible?

    The bible was written by many authors yet its ironic during the finalization of the Old testament there were more than 30 gospels and Iranaeus only choose 4 main gospels(mathew, mark, luke and john) were Gospel of Judas, Mary magdalene, Philip and etc. exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hstrikeh View Post
    The bible was written by many authors yet its ironic during the finalization of the Old testament there were more than 30 gospels and Iranaeus only choose 4 main gospels(mathew, mark, luke and john) were Gospel of Judas, Mary magdalene, Philip and etc. exist.
    the gospels you are talking about are actually Pseudepigraphical works, to put it in perspective consider the book "Harry Potter", what if after awhile naay magsuwat nsad ug book entitled "Ron Weasley" without the permission of JK Rowling, same plot different Perspective.. that book would be considered a plagarized literature therefore a lie unless if si Rowling jud ang magsuwat ana.. same sad na anang mga Gnostic Gospels bro, but if naay ma present nga evidence nga kanang mga Books existed in the same time as the Canonical Gospels aw kana murag ma question nto ang church ana..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    historical records? kanang bible imong pasabot?.. the world was created in 7 days? you call that historical record?
    Tawn pud, pag research part.... hehhe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devian View Post
    asa? kinsa ni cla?

    sa philippines? hay naku! kita maoy christian country nga wa mo asenso. mahadlok man unta ug ginoo pero daghan man kawatan.
    There is a big difference between a true christian and a professing christian. Ayaw kalibog if you see somebody who happen to claim a christian unya nagbuhat ug dautan and he's comfortable with it ug walay conviction sa Holy Spirit sa iyang kinabuhi......hes FAKE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    i seriously doubt that
    It;s because you do not experience the presence of the Holy Spirit when you were a professing christian. Theres a big difference bro....Christianity is not an empty religion, there is power of the Holy Spirit that works in every true believer.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 10-28-2012 at 10:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devian View Post
    mora lisod gyud ni sabton kay mao pay paghimo sa universe then naay nay concept of time.
    Libog mo part? its not an ordinary book man gud as you think....
    The bible is intended to change a wicked into righteous, turns a dead bone back to life, a heart of stone to flesh!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epitaph View Post
    ... mao btaw nangeskwela ta para sakto ato dispostion sa mga butang butang nya isalig na dayn nato kay lage naay ginoo nga nakahibaw tanan? and yet he had abraham sacrificed his son in order to know if he is obedient to him?? murag way logic.... if god is perfect y wud u giv praises to someone hu is perfect nd someone like u giving him praise? does not make sense...
    Hopefully youre NOT an atheist part kay sayang ang tanan nimong gasto sa pag eskwela.....since you know atheism believed in the concept that we are a product of nothingness, our life is without meaning, without purpose.

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