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    Default Re: What if kung tinood nga naay asawa, mga anak, ug mga apo si Jesus?


    Jesus was only a human. The bible was twisted and interpreted to equal him with God. But even Jesus taught that there is only One God.

    John 8:41
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    41 "You are doing the works your father did." They said to him, "We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God."

    1 Timothy 2:5
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    5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

    Mark 12:28-34
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    The Great Commandment

    28 And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, “Which commandment is the most important of all?” 29 Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32 And the scribe said to him, “You are right, Teacher. You have truly said that he is one, and there is no other besides him. 33 And to love him with all the heart and with all the understanding and with all the strength, and to love one's neighbor as oneself, is much more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34 And when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And after that no one dared to ask him any more questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    Mark 10:17-18
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    The Rich Young Man

    17 And as he was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him and asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 18 And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.
    Jesus had always used that approach bro.....he often tried to question the questioner! if youll have time, try to watch this video.....and youll be blessed!

    ☆ Ravi Zacharias Speaking To LDS 1 of 7 - YouTube

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    Default Re: What if kung tinood nga naay asawa, mga anak, ug mga apo si Jesus?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    Jesus was only a human. The bible was twisted and interpreted to equal him with God. But even Jesus taught that there is only One God.

    John 8:41
    English Standard Version (ESV)
    41 "You are doing the works your father did." They said to him, "We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God."

    1 Timothy 2:5
    English Standard Version (ESV)
    5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

    Mark 12:28-34
    English Standard Version (ESV)

    The Great Commandment

    28 And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, “Which commandment is the most important of all?” 29 Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32 And the scribe said to him, “You are right, Teacher. You have truly said that he is one, and there is no other besides him. 33 And to love him with all the heart and with all the understanding and with all the strength, and to love one's neighbor as oneself, is much more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34 And when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And after that no one dared to ask him any more questions.
    bro, if you quote passages out of the bible and making comments such as gi-twist or to destroy it.....youre only contradicting yourself coz youre a buddhist and then sa bible ka magquote2.....hhehe. Gamita imong source.

    Okay atong i-consider gi-twist, what if ang imong gi-quote mismo mao nay gi-twist nga verse? diba very illogical imong point to discredit the word of God?

    Try to think it again.

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    Default Re: What if kung tinood nga naay asawa, mga anak, ug mga apo si Jesus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    I agree part, kung unsa ra ang importante para sa atong kaluwasan. The bible is a spiritual book, it helps change lives and it is the food for our soul....the manual in which to refer to life's problems.

    Ang naka ironic lang is there are people who easily criticize it yet dont even bother to open and meditate even a single verse.
    Here's the point....wala nana gisulat ang dili kayo importanteng butang coz it only leads up to more misinterpretation sa mga skeptics.

    Kung motapol ta ug basa sa kana lang nga volume how much more if 10 times kaha ang gisulat diha sa mga nabuhat sa ginoo? Mauwaw man ganing uban magdala2 ana unsa na kaha if 10 times nana kabaga? Be real!
    ...Bro, to be real nuh? (as what you've said.) Yes, a Bible is food for the soul - it is food for the soul para sa mga tao nga walay common sense, common sense in the sense nga ang naka-sulat dili tanan insakto, sometimes the writer & editor maaU ning pingki-on ang mga ulo kay sila man gud mudala ug palami sa istorya, palami na pun-an ug kuhaan ang istorya arun makadala un interest sa tao, for example, do you think, ang istorya sa mga chismusa insakto kung maabot na balita sa pikas baryo? like this "Si Juan nadam-agan sa bus" inig abot sa balita sa pikas baryo "Si Juan namatay kay nadam-agan sa bus." So, different na ang story, so something like that na istorya. Mao na usahay man gud kung naay mga skeptic dili jud ko motoo not unless kung naa jud evidence. Pero, ako jud nuh, Seriously dili jud ko motoo ug rebulto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wire View Post
    ...Bro, to be real nuh? (as what you've said.) Yes, a Bible is food for the soul - it is food for the soul para sa mga tao nga walay common sense, common sense in the sense nga ang naka-sulat dili tanan insakto, sometimes the writer & editor maaU ning pingki-on ang mga ulo kay sila man gud mudala ug palami sa istorya, palami na pun-an ug kuhaan ang istorya arun makadala un interest sa tao, for example, do you think, ang istorya sa mga chismusa insakto kung maabot na balita sa pikas baryo? like this "Si Juan nadam-agan sa bus" inig abot sa balita sa pikas baryo "Si Juan namatay kay nadam-agan sa bus." So, different na ang story, so something like that na istorya. Mao na usahay man gud kung naay mga skeptic dili jud ko motoo not unless kung naa jud evidence. Pero, ako jud nuh, Seriously dili jud ko motoo ug rebulto.
    Are you a christian catholic brod?
    Kasabot ra ko nimo ug sa imong understanding about the bible.....sa bagay youre still a babe in Christ. Find ways youll grow spiritually coz it would really help you and your loved ones.

    God bless bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    bro, if you quote passages out of the bible and making comments such as gi-twist or to destroy it.....youre only contradicting yourself coz youre a buddhist and then sa bible ka magquote2.....hhehe. Gamita imong source.

    Okay atong i-consider gi-twist, what if ang imong gi-quote mismo mao nay gi-twist nga verse? diba very illogical imong point to discredit the word of God?

    Try to think deeper bro.
    di ko buddhist bro, i am open to all teachings, then compare them. dogmas are created only by humans and not God. so i don't follow them and di ko ganahan ug dogmas but i respect them. Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, Krishna and many others were God's messengers. They never changed what God wanted them to teach. They never declared that they were equal to God and that they were God, they were only humans but have something in them nga medyo labaw sila sa ordinary humans ky messengers bya sila ni God.

    These great messengers had the same teachings bec. they only had one source: GOD. And I am learning from those teachings and they can also be found in the core teachings of every religion. Jesus and other messengers of God, always taught that there is only one God. And it can be found with those bible verses. If Jesus taught that there is only 1 God, it only means that he is not God. He is a god (internal) and also a human (external) as taught also by Jesus and other messengers. With that Jesus can have a family, except kung mag monk siya or mag priest. Pero ang pari, pwede man naay anak, basta sekreto lng labi na ug nagduda nga naay anak si Jesus. hehehe

    By the way, Martin Luther was also learning from those messengers of God. Di ba ang mga pastor, naa man mga asawa ug anak?

    Mark 12:28-34
    English Standard Version (ESV)

    The Great Commandment

    28 And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, “Which commandment is the most important of all?” 29 Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32 And the scribe said to him, “You are right, Teacher. You have truly said that he is one, and there is no other besides him. 33 And to love him with all the heart and with all the understanding and with all the strength, and to love one's neighbor as oneself, is much more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34 And when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And after that no one dared to ask him any more questions.
    Last edited by jovipeorliohacokijo; 10-24-2012 at 01:05 PM.

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    No its not bro. They taught different teachings.....kay kung moingon ka parehas ra ilang teachings, duna untay harmony ang kalibutan. Si satanas duna syay iyang tactics bro unsaon niya paglawgaw ang kamatuoran and he perfectly devised it.....obvious kayo na! mao nga atong sabton kung unsa jud ang main doctrines aning major religions brought to us by these so called "messengers of god".

    okay bro, i understand maybe because you wanted everything in your life to be perfect. For me, Jesus Christ is GOD in the flesh!

    Dili ka makakita ug perfect nga religion bro. Unless you truly know Jesus Christ and experience his power to change lives, you will never find rest in searching....daghan pa kayong mga teachings imong masugatan sa umaabot that will again invalidate your current beliefs!

    You should have a fixed reference of your faith.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 10-24-2012 at 01:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    okay bro, i understand maybe because you wanted everything in your life to be perfect. For me, Jesus Christ is GOD in the flesh!

    Dili ka makakita ug perfect nga religion bro. Unless you truly know Jesus Christ and experience his power to change lives, you will never find rest in searching....daghan pa kayong mga teachings imong masugatan sa umaabot that will again invalidate your current beliefs!

    You should have a fixed reference of your faith.
    kung ang imong gituhu-an bro is different sa gituhu-an sa ubang tao, then hinimo ra na sa tao. pareha ra man gud ta tanan para sa Ginoo. Ang mensahe sa Ginoo dili na mag-usab usab gikan pa sauna hangtud karon, pareha ra na tanan. Ug nganong nausab kang Jesus, kana daku ug posibilidad nga giusab na ug tao. padayon lng sa imo bro, ky padayon ra pud ko sa akoa. hehehe. taas kaayo ko ug respeto ni Jesus bro, and i am learning from his teachings nga same teachings ni Muhammad ug Buddha ug uban pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    kung ang imong gituhu-an bro is different sa gituhu-an sa ubang tao, then hinimo ra na sa tao. pareha ra man gud ta tanan para sa Ginoo. Ang mensahe sa Ginoo dili na mag-usab usab gikan pa sauna hangtud karon, pareha ra na tanan. Ug nganong nausab kang Jesus, kana daku ug posibilidad nga giusab na ug tao. padayon lng sa imo bro, ky padayon ra pud ko sa akoa. hehehe. taas kaayo ko ug respeto ni Jesus bro, and i am learning from his teachings nga same teachings ni Muhammad ug Buddha ug uban pa.
    Ang mensahe mausab, ang Practices mausab Pero ang BALAOD, LAW murag wa man giusab. Naa diay LAW giusab si Kristo bro? i mean LAW jud ha not practices. Pwedi ka maka hatag ug verse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Ang mensahe mausab, ang Practices mausab Pero ang BALAOD, LAW murag wa man giusab. Naa diay LAW giusab si Kristo bro? i mean LAW jud ha not practices. Pwedi ka maka hatag ug verse?
    wai giusab si Jesus bro, ang teachings ni Jesus same ra with other messengers of God ky same ra man ug source: GOD. now, kung naa man gani lahi, it only means nga hinimo sa tao. like Jesus as God, Jesus never taught nga God siya. He even taught to worship only God alone, with that klaro nga dili siya God, but naa dayon verse nga moingon nga niingon si Jesus nga siya ug God is usa lng, so it is either twisted or sayop ang interpretations by humans. with that, mag contradict ang mga statements/verses sa bible. pero naa lain basihan, ang teachings sa lain nga mga messengers nga pareha pud sa kang Jesus.

    kung si Jesus dili God, it only means nga human siya but not ordinary human. as human naa siya family, mga anak ug mga apo if dili siya mag monk or pari.

    Si Martin Luther had access to those teachings. Ask lng ko, naa ba family ang mga pastor? why?

    LOVE OF GOD IS ESSENTIAL

    Sri Ramakrishna -- Unalloyed love of God is the essential thing. All else is unreal.

    Holy Mother -- One’s love of God depends entirely upon one’s inner feelings. Love of God is the essential thing.

    Swami Vivekananda -- Giving up all other thoughts, with the whole mind day and night worship God. Thus being worshipped day and night, He reveals himself and makes His worshippers feel His presence.

    Buddha -- That which is most needed is a loving heart.

    Guru Nanak -- God is not pleased by obstinate penance nor by many religious garbs. He who fashioned the vessel of the body and poured into it, His ambrosial gifts, will only be satisfied with man’s love and service.

    Jesus Christ -- "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?" And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment."

    Judaism -- Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.

    Krishna -- But the great-souled men, O Partha, who are endowed with the divine nature, worship Me with undisturbed minds, knowing that I am immutable and the origin of all beings. Ever glorifying Me, always striving with self-control, remaining firm in their vows, bowing before Me, they worship Me with love and unwavering steadiness.

    Mohammed -- Whoever loves to meet God, God loves to meet him.

    Native American -- Wakan-Tanka, help us to walk the sacred path of life without difficulty, with our minds and hearts continually fixed on You!

    Rama -- Devotion is the only thing that is essential to worship Me. It is impossible for a person to see Me by the merit of sacrifice, austerity, charity, or by the study of Vedas or by performing the scriptural rites, if he is devoid of devotion to Me.

    Sankara -- Among things conducive to liberation, devotion alone holds the supreme place. The seeking after one’s real nature is designated as devotion.

    Vedas -- Under a golden brilliance the face of Truth lies hidden. Do Thou, O Protector, withdraw this cover, that I, devoted to Truth alone, may realize it.

    Zoroaster -- As the Fire on the censer consumes sandalwood so let the Fire burning within you consume your heart with love for Ahura Mazda.
    Last edited by jovipeorliohacokijo; 10-24-2012 at 01:46 PM.

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