The Jaclupan incident: Demonic possession or Mass Hysteria?

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

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So what is your point in pointing that out?

mao ni sila ang expert anang mga behavior bro, maybe they can study and they can explain scientifically about sa nahitabo.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

drugs could be possible. yes, lahi gyud kung maka drugs, i mean wala pud nahitabo nga ingon ani, pero i can say praning praning gyud gamay, sometimes naa gyud act nako nga maka ingon ko it's not me who is controlling myself and lots of hallucination. mao bitaw nga sayon ra nako naka undang, ky feel nako lahi man gyud. and then by the time nga ni undang nako, lahi kaayo akong mga damgo, halos every night ky damgo ko ug bati, horrors then when i was awake, sometimes lahi akong pamati which would lead me to take more drugs, but gi fight gyud to nako, and that was 14 years ago. maybe lahi ni nga klase sa drugs, or it's their 1st time or ni undang na. so to confirm nga drugs or not, drug test gyud.

Far fetch ang imohang suggestion and I am telling you right now , basing from your accounts , walay common denomination kay I also know users and sugapa na sa bisyo and they have different stories to tell . Totally opposite from yours. How about kung huboglang to ang 17 ka estudyante pod and they dont know what they are doing ?

then mas maayo naa gyud mutan-aw nga psychologist or psychiatrist ky expert man na sila ana ug mga scientists about behavior.

Did you know that in a faculty of excorcist , it composes of three main players ? A lawyer, a psychologist and a priest authorized by a bishop ?

in terms of na possess, i was taught that the bond of soul and his body is so strong that only death can separate them. so wa gyud lain spirit nga temporarily maka replace niya. and i was also taught nga kanang twins, they even have only 1 single soul para nilang duha.

We are talking about DEMONS here , not your friendly neighborhood ghost " Casper" .

i was also taught that mind of man is so powerful, that it can even move mountains.

Literally ? Weh ! Sure ? Hehehehe .

[aldrin89]

IF katong 17 ka students ga DRUGS impossible sad same gyud ilang tripping ug tama sa ilang gihingos... I don't think so. Apil na katong usa ka inahan.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

mediumship is not even true nga tinoyo na gyud how much more kaning ingon ani nga wa toyoa. i had witnessed this many times, ukay tanang silingan. but at my very young age i had some doubts already. i saw they put a crucifix, used holy water, then were praying the rosary every hour. then even brought the said possessed persons inside the church, wa ra man gihapon epek. mao na ako na observed katong bata pa ko. naa pa uban gi pa soot ug robe sa pari, gi kwentasan ug rosary, pero wa man epek. ang storya dayon ky powerful kaayo ang demonyo ky maka sokol man, need dayon daw ug albolaryo. nalupigan diay ang simbahan ug ang pari sa power sa demonyo unya albolaryo ra ang maka lupig sa demonyo? hehehe

there was one, amoang boy sauna, maguwang pa nako, naa daw siya nakit-an, demonyo daw, gibabagan daw siya ug kalit while naglakaw. kusgan kaayo ky pila gud gakupot niya di gud kadaog, nya kung naay modool niya, iyang makita ky ang demonyo daw. mao gihapon naa crucifix, rosary, prayers wa man epek. then naay usa gikumot maayo ang tiyan, gi tawag niya ug hilanat daw nga wa kagawas, ambot unsay saktong term basta mao to iyang tawag. wa man to siya hilanat, then nanggawas dagku nga singot, nanginit ang lawas unya gihilantan dayon. nauli-an na siya. gi painom na lng ug para hilanat. then ang mga tao, mao gihapon ug storya, bisag gi explain na nga hilanat ra daw nga wa kagawas.

[noy]

OT:@ jovs,lingaw kaau ko sa imung storya bai..hehehe...
hinlabi na tong hilanat wala kagawas!

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

mediumship is not even true nga tinoyo na gyud how much more kaning ingon ani nga wa toyoa. i had witnessed this many times, ukay tanang silingan. but at my very young age i had some doubts already. i saw they put a crucifix, used holy water, then were praying the rosary every hour. then even brought the said possessed persons inside the church, wa ra man gihapon epek. mao na ako na observed katong bata pa ko. naa pa uban gi pa soot ug robe sa pari, gi kwentasan ug rosary, pero wa man epek. ang storya dayon ky powerful kaayo ang demonyo ky maka sokol man, need dayon daw ug albolaryo. nalupigan diay ang simbahan ug ang pari sa power sa demonyo unya albolaryo ra ang maka lupig sa demonyo? hehehe

there was one, amoang boy sauna, maguwang pa nako, naa daw siya nakit-an, demonyo daw, gibabagan daw siya ug kalit while naglakaw. kusgan kaayo ky pila gud gakupot niya di gud kadaog, nya kung naay modool niya, iyang makita ky ang demonyo daw. mao gihapon naa crucifix, rosary, prayers wa man epek. then naay usa gikumot maayo ang tiyan, gi tawag niya ug hilanat daw nga wa kagawas, ambot unsay saktong term basta mao to iyang tawag. wa man to siya hilanat, then nanggawas dagku nga singot, nanginit ang lawas unya gihilantan dayon. nauli-an na siya. gi painom na lng ug para hilanat. then ang mga tao, mao gihapon ug storya, bisag gi explain na nga hilanat ra daw nga wa kagawas.

Basing from these statements , you clearly dont know EXCORCISM yet. Even DEMONOLOGY for that matter.

I will leave the luxury of letting you research about EXCORCISM , DELIVERANCE , CROSS of ST. BENEDICT, DEMONOLOGY, Rev. Fr. Gabriel Amorth , Fr. Ralph Perez , BATTLE of MONTE CASSINO ( St.Michael the Archangel vs. Lucifer )etc . Let me know if you learned something but you need not be convinced .

Let me know if you doubt the contents of your reference of being not " reliable " so I can guide you.

[mio]

Daghan nindot basahonon na reply da.

[noy]

tuod man, wa juy kalupig sa hilanat nga wa kagawas hahaha...
peace jovs

[Breakeven]

To all ...

I personally dont need SCIENCE just to prove something. It is enough for me for something to occur in front of my two open eyes to know these actually exist . I am not pointing yet sa 17 kabuok students since when we say infestation if we base from the news reports , its somewhat related to a level 1 demon if there is one man gani . Naa pa na sa stage of HARASSMENT .

Suma mao bitaw na akong gina open sa mga ATHEIST sa discussion sa THEISM and ATHEISM THREAD , walay gusto mo follow because it would be mind blowing. DEMONIC POSSESSIONS are real .

I humbly appreciate your position on this mods. Thanks for sharing your opinion!

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Far fetch ang imohang suggestion and I am telling you right now , basing from your accounts , walay common denomination kay I also know users and sugapa na sa bisyo and they have different stories to tell . Totally opposite from yours. How about kung huboglang to ang 17 ka estudyante pod and they dont know what they are doing ?

actually, pwede pud hubog lng. but we know baya unsa ang behavior sa hubog ky mostly ang mga tao ky palahubog. and we don't know unsay epek sa drugs sa kadausa? basin lahi lahi. di pag gyud nato confirm kung mao ba gyud ang cause, not unless after drug test, negative sila tanan. mao mas maayo naa psychiatrist or psychologist.

Did you know that in a faculty of excorcist , it composes of three main players ? A lawyer, a psychologist and a priest authorized by a bishop ?

sorry, i don't believe in exorcism. it is not true. drama lng na. ang body sa tao can never be possessed by demons. you know why? man is created in the same image and likeness with God, for sure it is not the body, ky lahi lahi man ta ug nawong. it is our soul that is created by God in His image and likeness. when we say same image and likeness, it is a god, a small God, a part of God. so maski gamay lng, it has the same characteristics as God, pero gamay gamay lng. that is why if we will tap our soul, we will know who is God, our relationship with Him and everything. So ky god man na imong soul, wai demon nga mupuli ana sa imong body. di man gani ka dool sa imong soul ang demon, ang pulihan pa.

We are talking about DEMONS here , not your friendly neighborhood ghost " Casper" .

Satan and Demons, they are not what mostly thought nga naay sungay, laksot ug nawong, naay ikog, naay fang. or horrific ug dagway. nakuha na nato sa mga stage play sauna, sa books, sa movies ug sa mga drama sa radyo, gi exaggerate to nila to differentiate between the bida and kontra bida. usually, ana man ng entertainment sauna. lain man pud kaayo kung laksot ang bida unya nindot ug image ang kontra bida. unya kung mutan-aw ta, basa ta, maminaw ta, adto man gyud ta dapig sa bida, so naa sa atong mind nga ang demon ingon ana ug dagway. mga entertainment sauna ky God vs Evil man dayon.

Di ba Satan and his followers were angels. When we say fallen angels, do you think nausab ilang image? No, Mao ra gihapon ang ilang image mao magbantay gyud. Satan is a deceiver and when we say deceiver siya, dapat buutan ug gwapo siya ug image ug dli laksot. otherwise, di nya ma deceive ang tao, ky mahadlok naman nya. Nya, analyze this, pwede moingon si satan nga ang nawong ni satanas ky naay sungay, naay ikog, naay fangs unya puwa ug mata. cge ka pangandam ky basin imong ma meet, nya diay to gi deceive diay ka niya nga mao na iyang image.

Literally ? Weh ! Sure ? Hehehehe .

Naa na sa teachings ni Jesus, Buddha and other great teachers
Matthew 17:20
And He said to them, "Because of the littleness of your faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.

literally yes, and naa pud na lain meaning. nothing is impossible with the power of your mind, depende sa asa kutob imong faith sa power sa imong mind. like for example levitation.