HEAVEN & HELL or REINCARNATION? what is your belief

[Breakeven]

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=Bears Grill;13538269].....You lifted you're comments wholesale from this website: DarwinConspiracy.com. You should at least state that what you wrote is not your own but taken from that link.

Is it really necessary? Im sorry. Daghan naman ko posts diri that i extracted from other sources
It is only a counter viewpoint of what i agreed against that theory. Honestly @bears, i have less knowledge about darwinian theory of evolution as i am not interested in it. I would not take much effort on subjects that wont help me improve my personality and relation to God.

If the Theory of Evolution was clearly a flawed science, then why did it win in the Dover trial against ID proponents? You and I are probably not as equipped as those who participated in the trial...which was chaired by no less than a Christian conservative judge. That trial pitted the founders of ID against representatives from the Evolution camp.

You've misrepresenting the facts. Actually, I should be the one saying to you: "So sad to think naa pa gihapon mga taw nagtuo ana nga concept" Tsk, tsk, tsk

I am a creationist @bears. Darwinian theory, either flawed science or not but personally I am NOT convinced that you are a product of time, matter and chance. What i need is show your proof that darwinian theory is a FACT.

...if you cannot prove and you insist it to be true, kasab-i lang ang author ana nga article nga akong gi extract.

Dili maghuman ni nga topic bears coz there is always an opposing side to every Truth. Mawala nalang tang tanan dili jud na maghuman ang debati.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

lisod man i explain kanang langit, impyerno, reincarnation nga pinaagi lng sa atong tawhanong pangotok, bisan pa ang bryt kaayo nga pagkatawo, di gyud na ma explain, wa gyud nay kapadulngan

kung i simplify nako, related seguro na ang tulo

kung dunay langit, para nako, ang mga makasulod ky katong lng mga tao nga pure in mind and actions. heaven gud na, naa man kaha ang Ginoo diha, magpasagol diay siya ug mga tao nga di pure, dunay lust ba ron sa hunahuna? unyag mga nipis kaayo na ilang gipangsoot or wa bai mga sapot unya masudlan ug manyak ug hunahuna?

sa mga di pa pure ang hunahuna ug action, meaning, wa pa matagbaw ug pakasala, inig kamatay nya, need pa mo reincarnate, adto sila ipadala sa impyerno, para magpakasala ug samot, or maka resist ba, ma test sila ug maayo hangtud matagbaw nga kapoya aning buhata oi, nakatilaw nako ani, nakasuway nako ani, dili nako dri.

ang impyerno lugar man kaha na ni satanas? so si satanas ang tig test nya. adto diay na i test sa pugatoryo nga ang kasal-anan naa man sa impyerno, di adto gyud na didto mo reincarnate, as tawo gihapon, pero dili mananap. tawo gihapon para ma test gihapon iyang will nga ma buutan di na mamakak, di na lustful/manyakis ug hunahuna. ky kung mo reincarnate as mananap like ok-ok, kabalo diay na mamakak ang ok-ok?

[Breakeven]

unsa ni imo part, icebreaker? hhahha...si-aw sad ka part da.

[noy]

evolution is good,it has many positive attributes to science.
however the theory in evolution that suggests we came from something else apart from being human
remains a theory,theory and hypothesis plays a major part in solving a scientific problem..
but using the theory as a conclusion is another story.

evolution may be present and concluded in some aspects of this world..

suppose 6 organisms evolved out of 10
is it safe to conclude that all 10 should evolve?
a theory will always be a theory until proven and concluded
as a criminal is pressumed innocent till proven guilty.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

OT na lage ?

Definitely naay HEAVEN and HELL , proven to be tangible and an existing place based from experiences and not from faith.

Reincarnation ? Mas maayo mo focus ta diri.

[Bears Grill]

@noy, I think you share the common misconception on the word "theory" as used in science. Let me help you out there, just to keep you up-to-date on the current status of Darwin's Theory of Evolution in mainstream science.

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From the American Association for the Advancement of Science:
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.

The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.

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As far as mainstream science is concerned, the phenomenon of Evolution is a fact and Darwin's Theory of Evolution explains that phenomenon. I hope the distinction, as stated by the American Association for the Advancement of Science, is clear.

@noy, you're a Roman Catholic. As far as the Catholic Church is concerned, they've already stated their position on the Theory of Evolution....no less than Pope John Paul II made it clear. It's just unfortunate that a lot of Catholics align themselves with the fundamentalists' Creationism stance. I hope you can one day visit the Vatican Observatory and ask the scientists there why they think Darwin's theory is a well-substantiated one.

I'm not insisting that people must believe in Darwin's theory. I'm just correcting the misconceptions people have about it and stating my stance on the matter. How people react to my comments is entirely up to them.

[noy]

hahaha.OT na bitaw...post mu guys, kadtong mutoo sa reincarnation?what are your basis?experiences? proofs?

[Bears Grill]

OT na lage ?

Definitely naay HEAVEN and HELL , proven to be tangible and an existing place based from experiences and not from faith.

PROVEN, tangible, existing? @Spring, you're putting yourself on the spot here. You can back that up, can you?

[Bears Grill]

hahaha.OT na bitaw...post mu guys, kadtong mutoo sa reincarnation?what are your basis?experiences? proofs?

@noy, I respect both views, whether you believe in heaven and hell or you believe in reincarnation. But when these two positions collide, I think there's really no choice on the matter. Both are mumbo-jumbo. They're both equal glimpses of the absurd.

[noy]

@noy, I think you share the common misconception on the word "theory" as used in science. Let me help you out there, just to keep you up-to-date on the current status of Darwin's Theory of Evolution in mainstream science.

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From the American Association for the Advancement of Science:
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.

The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.

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As far as mainstream science is concerned, the phenomenon of Evolution is a fact and Darwin's Theory of Evolution explains that phenomenon. I hope the distinction, as stated by the American Association for the Advancement of Science, is clear.

@noy, you're a Roman Catholic. As far as the Catholic Church is concerned, they've already stated their position on the Theory of Evolution....no less than Pope John Paul II made it clear. It's just unfortunate that a lot of Catholics align themselves with the fundamentalists' Creationism stance. I hope you can one day visit the Vatican Observatory and ask the scientists there why they think Darwin's theory is a well-substantiated one.

I'm not insisting that people must believe in Darwin's theory. I'm just correcting the misconceptions people have about it and stating my stance on the matter. How people react to my comments is entirely up to them.

thanks bears, like the example i cited in my previous post..tinuod man jud
nga ni ackowledge and vatican with darwin's theory of evolution..'cause darwin's theory of evolution was not only focused in the evolution of man...mao btaw i cited an example that if 6 were proven to ahve evolved out of 10,does it follow that all 10 have evolved?'cause is somehow the case with regard to human evolution..just because there things proven to have evolved..it doesn't mean that same princicple can be applied to all aspects...that is why until now it is still called the Theory of Evolution-specifically points out to human evolving from other organisms...
and besides did the late POPE, specifically said that Darwin's theory about evolution of man is not merely just a theory but it is the truth...pope merely said that the theory is to be accepted as a study, but not accepted to be the truth..
'cause if mao pa na ang situation...then the roman catholic church would have changed the story of the bible about adam and eve...and besides the pope apologised to the darwinians 'cause of the hostility towards them by early christian churches(which clearly displays an act of idiocracy and blind faith..sad but true,early christian churches did display such acts).but that doesn't mean that the catholic church specifically accpeted that theory to be true..

i don't know if you would agree with me on this bears,
but that statement of the late pope john paul II..saying that darwin's theory is to accepted to be studied...instead of being suppressed(like what early christians did) Shows confidence that it will not be proven.
which is clearly the case,isn't it?otherwise it wouldn't be branded as theory anymore..

sorry spring...i know OT ni..