HEAVEN & HELL or REINCARNATION? what is your belief

[necrotic freak]

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I respect everyone's belief in heaven and hell. But to me, heaven and hell are man's inventions to keep the credulous in check. They are products of our wishful thinking. These supernatural domains do not have a shred of evidence of their existence.

I'll go further to say that morality is more respectable without this imaginary system of rewards and punishments. I submit that the atheist or agnostic who throws himself in front of a charging bus to save a child, with the full knowledge that only the grave awaits him, is more moral than someone who does the same thing because he's believes in some reward.

Mabuhay ang PATAS!

[lesmark]

he who has ears, let him hear...

[Bears Grill]

Mabuhay ang PATAS!

That organization exists, but I'm not a member. I don't think we have the necessary condition in the Philippines for a secular organization to make a significant impact. Unlike the west which has the Enlightenment tradition steeped into their culture, we in the Philippines are a largely superstitious culture. Here, mumbo jumbo rules, and you can tell.

[Bears Grill]

he who has ears, let him hear...

He who has a brain, let him doubt

[Breakeven]

QUOTE=Bears Grill;13530663]I respect everyone's belief in heaven and hell. But to me, heaven and hell are man's inventions to keep the credulous in check. They are products of our wishful thinking. These supernatural domains do not have a shred of evidence of their existence.

we respect yours as well migo.
But always remember, truth will never be changed bisan unsa pa atong ma conceive nga ideas. Our mind has the power to think. No it's not wishful thinking, it is as real as BIRTH and DEATH, if you are already a father havent you notice the first time nataw imong anak, you have this feeling nga dili masabot, youre surprised of that life nga ikaw ang naghimo? havent you observed kung dunay kalit mamatay, ma shocked ta tungod kay wala ta mag expect nga mahitabo sa iyaha? Lisud kung anha nata makaamgo when its too late na.

Naa ra sa atua unsa atong perspective about life. God has already given us all the avenue to know him, all we need to do is humble ourselves and draw nigh to him. We will have a different perspective once we experience his power.

I'll go further to say that morality is more respectable without this imaginary system of rewards and punishments. I submit that the atheist or agnostic who throws himself in front of a charging bus to save a child, with the full knowledge that only the grave awaits him, is more moral than someone who does the same thing because he's believes in some reward.

How did an atheist get that sense of Altruism if he came from nothing? Kung moingon ka that we evolved from simple organism?

In Christianity, it clearly said that we are made in the image and likeness of God....that's why we offer help to others because we believe that we are a being of intrinsic worth and value.

[Breakeven]

He who has a brain, let him doubt

Do not doubt....
Mark 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

[Breakeven]

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Gihatagan nasd problema akong connection. how sad

[SioDenz]

I respect everyone's belief in heaven and hell. But to me, heaven and hell are man's inventions to keep the credulous in check. They are products of our wishful thinking. These supernatural domains do not have a shred of evidence of their existence.

In 1500, HUMAN Genome do not have a shred of evidence of their existence - But it doesnt mean it did Not existed during that time. No scientific evidence does not necessarily Mean it does or Did Not exist - especially if the basis of the so-called evidence is LIMITED.

[Bears Grill]

Do not doubt....
Mark 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."---Thomas Jefferson

[Breakeven]

@bears

"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."---Thomas Jefferson

Walay problema to question god's existence because that is how we humans were made, we have a mind and will to decide. Depende na nato unsa atong pagsabot despite all the clear evidence in the creation. Bisan gani in ourselves kung atong tan-awn, the complex systems, the design...it must have a designer and a mind behind all these beauty and wonder!

anyone can make a statement sound impressive but who's more believable, words of Jesus Christ or anyone of us?