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  1. #61

    Default Re: HEAVEN & HELL or REINCARNATION? what is your belief

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    So pwedi naba tah maluwas bisag buhi pata? Pwedi naba ta conclude nga luwas nata while buhi pata? or ang kaluwasn adtu na human judgment?
    We sometimes doubt our salvation tungod sa atong mga binuhatan. But if we have this genuine faith and a true relationship with God, for me it is assertive to say that our salvation is assured.

    I believe in 2 types of salvation:

    1) Present - we are saved from the bondage of evil/sin. The time we sincerely accepted Christ as our personal saviour, the holy spirit will work in us, though it is a process transformation but we will then become a new creature (2 Corinthians 5:17). We are no longer comfortable living in Sin...yes we fall but God is there to help us (Psalms 37:23,24) to mold us into a person he wanted us to be (Ephesians 2:10).

    2) Future - The person who believes in Christ is said to receive "everlasting" or "eternal life." (1 John 5:13)

    If, in order to be saved, you believe you have to live a faithful life and not sin to keep your salvation then you are trusting in your good work of faithful living to keep you saved. Surely every true child of God wants to live for the Lord and live a faithful life. The majority of Christians will live in varying degrees a faithful life. But their faithfulness is not keeping them saved as that is the work of God. This truth is clearly stated in 1 Peter 1:3-5 which says a believer is not kept by our good works, but by the power of God Himself:

    "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    Reference: Assurance of Salvation

    I accept that we have differing beliefs but that is not the hindrance nga magkahiusa ta sa langit tingali magka room mate rata ninyo didto...

    God bless to all!

  2. #62

    Default Re: HEAVEN & HELL or REINCARNATION? what is your belief

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post

    I accept that we have differing beliefs but that is not the hindrance nga magkahiusa ta sa langit tingali magka room mate rata ninyo didto...

    God bless to all!
    unsa diay nang langit brad? mura diay na ug dormitory naay mga rooms?

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    Default Re: HEAVEN & HELL or REINCARNATION? what is your belief

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Kinsa diay dunay katungod mu Judge sa tawo if luwas ba or dili, kita r sad or ang Dios?

    The verse only talk about HOW you can be save NOT about US telling nga save nata. its HOW not WHO, big difference...

    Gi mentioned pa jud nga "...so that no one can boast" - unya musulti na nuon ta nga luwas nata while buhi pa? - murag sukwahi man nuon.
    That's true bro...no one can boast. It means ang kaluwasan pinaagi jud sa pagtuo diha kang ginoong hesukristo. Ang tinud-anay nga pagtuo moresulta ug maayong binuhatan tungod kay ang iyang example maoy mo reflect sa atong kinabuhi.

    Kung ang iyang kaluwasan gibasi diha sa iyang binuhatan, diha makaingon ta nga mao nay pasabot anang "no one can boast"....iya namang self iyang i-lift dili na ang ginoo kay buotan gud kuno siya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    unsa diay nang langit brad? mura diay na ug dormitory naay mga rooms?
    joke rana brod...hehe.
    Heaven daw is an infinite chase of the wonders and glories of God. Kung wla paman nato natuyok ang kanindot sa creations diri sa kalibutan sa tibuok natong kinabuhi, how much more ang kanindot sa glory sa ginoo in eternity.

  5. #65

    Default Re: HEAVEN & HELL or REINCARNATION? what is your belief

    good>>>heaven

    bad>>>hell

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    Default Re: HEAVEN & HELL or REINCARNATION? what is your belief

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    joke rana brod...hehe.
    Heaven daw is an infinite chase of the wonders and glories of God. Kung wla paman nato natuyok ang kanindot sa creations diri sa kalibutan sa tibuok natong kinabuhi, how much more ang kanindot sa glory sa ginoo in eternity.
    amen! are you pastor? seriously, you sound one..

  7. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by orochimaru700 View Post
    TS

    walay purgatoryo?
    dili lang ko motouch pag ayo ana bro kay vague man ang bible about ana. Only heaven and Hell ang klaro.

    Purgatory | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

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    Default Re: HEAVEN & HELL or REINCARNATION? what is your belief

    I respect everyone's belief in heaven and hell. But to me, heaven and hell are man's inventions to keep the credulous in check. They are products of our wishful thinking. These supernatural domains do not have a shred of evidence of their existence.

    I'll go further to say that morality is more respectable without this imaginary system of rewards and punishments. I submit that the atheist or agnostic who throws himself in front of a charging bus to save a child, with the full knowledge that only the grave awaits him, is more moral than someone who does the same thing because he's believes in some reward.

  9. #69

    Default Re: HEAVEN & HELL or REINCARNATION? what is your belief

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    joke rana brod...hehe.
    Heaven daw is an infinite chase of the wonders and glories of God. Kung wla paman nato natuyok ang kanindot sa creations diri sa kalibutan sa tibuok natong kinabuhi, how much more ang kanindot sa glory sa ginoo in eternity.
    I couldn't agree more brad..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lesmark View Post
    amen! are you pastor? seriously, you sound one..
    no im not bro. only an ordinary church member but i thank God for saving me, kung wala pa, dugay na tingali kong napreso or namatay...!

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