Real Teachings of Jesus

[SioDenz]

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these are not authentic, even the catholicism, they are not universally accepted... with an open mind, i can accept both opposing ideas, and compare them, within me lng ha, akong timbang timbangon if possible ba, then asa ang mas bug-at and mas dool sa tinood

in my own opinion, i have to struggle in seeking for the truth... ky believing in something that could not be true daku kaayo na ug impact ug effect para nako, and these things are very important for me, may not be important to you or to others

i know mabutang nga tsismissism lng, but what ta kabalo, tinood diay ning ila, importante kaayo na para nako

explanation - A statement or account that makes something clear
interpretation - The action of explaining the meaning of something

Ang pangutana if magtimbang timbang ka, duna ba kay insaktong timbangan.

Maayu bitaw if mag Seek ta sa truth. Pero importante sad nga duna tay concreto nga foundation or basehan asa tah magsugod ug pangita. Kay mu ingun tah accept and compare - Duna na diay kay base nga truth/belief imung gikuptan karun nga mag compare nman ka? if mu accept tah ug idea sa uban para atu i compare nya kita mismo way maayung foundation or knowledge sa atung own belief, musamot tag kalibog.

Based sa imung post makalibog kaayu imung belief kay for example:
-You believed in Jesus Christ nga tinuod which is imu gi base sa Bibliya, meaning naila ila nimu si Kristo gikan sa Bibliya.
-Mag cge ka ug Kutlo sa mga sinuwat sa bibliya isip imung proof sa imung belief.
-Ang Bibliya ni mention about Jesus as God PERO di ka mutoo based sa analysis sa lain tawo sa lain Webosite nga wala sa bibliya.
-Unya naay time imu nsad i question ang authenticity sa Bibliya, imu i question ang simbahan nga nag compile sa Biliya - Unya mag cge kag Qoute ug Bible Verse para maka support sa imung pagtuo.

Mao nga makalibog kaayu kay nahulog ug nag kutlo kutlo raka if unsa verse imung ganahan para maka support nimu. Way siguro if naa pay Satans Bible nya naa kay maangayan didto imu sad kutloon.

[SioDenz]

Ang nakaparat aning TS kay magsugod siya ug Quote sa Bibliya unya if imu tubagon ug Verse sad sa Bibliya, di na siya mutoo nya iyang gamiton nga explanation is analysis gikan sa uban tawo or sa internet. unsaon paghuman ana...

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Ang nakaparat aning TS kay magsugod siya ug Quote sa Bibliya unya if imu tubagon ug Verse sad sa Bibliya, di na siya mutoo nya iyang gamiton nga explanation is analysis gikan sa uban tawo or sa internet. unsaon paghuman ana...

sa akong ng ginaingon sa 1st post, akong dawaton ang tanan/opposing statements, ky if di na nako dawaton, then bias na, how can i come into conclusion, if dli nako madawat ang tanan statements, uyon man ko or dili, ako na gamiton sa analysis, mura bitaw ug too ko ug christianity unya within sa christianity ra pud, what is christianity outside, maybe di tinood ang gi sulti sa sulod, maybe i have to find the truth outside christianity, example lng na ha, i hope kakuka ka sa sa akong pasabot, those explanation from internet, di na acceptable nimo daan, ky 1st, you are close to what you believe, then per your belief you already have a conclusion while sa akong part, i have to gather more, nindot man or dili, pabor man or dili basta ky i will come up into conclusion, kung unsa ka dugay bahala na basta mao na mas importante para nako

i'll be busy the today, i don't know if maka reply ba ko sa mga post but post lng mo, i can accept all ideas from everybody and use them in my analysis, same with you bro, i accept your idea and use it, thanks for the input by the way

ani na lng nga question:
what if sa imong pagtuo, tinood ka nga anak, unya tinood nimo sila nga parents? within your family, you really thought that tinood gyud nimo silang igsoon ug mga ginikanan. then when you go outside of your house, you heard that you are son of someone and that adopted lng ka? what will you do? seguro di na lng ka mangita sa tinood nimo nga parents ug igsoon ky anyway hayahay man ni nga pamilya, datu man kaayo, bahala na lng to oi kinsa to sila

but what if you are suffering within the family and that your true family is hayahay and datu? or mas datu mas hayahay pa sila?

[mindtrickz]

si santo papa ray makatubag nimo TS

[SioDenz]

ani na lng nga question:
what if sa imong pagtuo, tinood ka nga anak, unya tinood nimo sila nga parents? within your family, you really thought that tinood gyud nimo silang igsoon ug mga ginikanan. then when you go outside of your house, you heard that you are son of someone and that adopted lng ka? what will you do? seguro di na lng ka mangita sa tinood nimo nga parents ug igsoon ky anyway hayahay man ni nga pamilya, datu man kaayo, bahala na lng to oi kinsa to sila

but what if you are suffering within the family and that your true family is hayahay and datu? or mas datu mas hayahay pa sila?

Mangita ko sa kamatuoran oi, Pero if naa koy tuohan, isa ra nila. EITHER sa akong silingan ko mutoo OR sa Akong pamilya ko mutoo kay lahi lahi man silag ug belief. So if kinsa imung pilion adtu ka nila tuo dayun adtu ka mu PROCEED.

Pero if katunga sa gisulti sa imung Pamilya imung tuohan UNYA katunga sa istorya sa Imung Silinga imu sang tuohan para maoy imung gamiton - Murag di nsad na maayu.

Di pwedi imung isagol ang duha sa BASE sa isa ka belief labi na ug lain lain na sila ug teaching kay nahulog kag nag kutlo kutlo ana. Unya makapasamot pa jud nag kalibog nimu OR way mutuo nimu.

Ako pa nimu, basaha tanan ang Bibliya dayun sabta, nya i compare sa imung Internet Source. IF para nimu naay sayop ang Bibliya HALA biyai unya adtu pag focus sa internet source nimu. Kay ang Bibliya ni ingun man nga insakto siya ug kumpleto ang iyang explanation, gisugo pa gani sa Bibliya nga di Kuhaan ug pun-an kay kumpleto na. SO if para nimu naay sayop ang Bibliya so di diay na tinuod so maayung biyaan nlan.

Pero if masuta nimu nga ang Bibliya maka explain sa iyang kaugalingion, so mao nay gamita.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Mangita ko sa kamatuoran oi, Pero if naa koy tuohan, isa ra nila. EITHER sa akong silingan ko mutoo OR sa Akong pamilya ko mutoo kay lahi lahi man silag ug belief. So if kinsa imung pilion adtu ka nila tuo dayun adtu ka mu PROCEED.

Pero if katunga sa gisulti sa imung Pamilya imung tuohan UNYA katunga sa istorya sa Imung Silinga imu sang tuohan para maoy imung gamiton - Murag di nsad na maayu.

Di pwedi imung isagol ang duha sa BASE sa isa ka belief labi na ug lain lain na sila ug teaching kay nahulog kag nag kutlo kutlo ana. Unya makapasamot pa jud nag kalibog nimu OR way mutuo nimu.

Ako pa nimu, basaha tanan ang Bibliya dayun sabta, nya i compare sa imung Internet Source. IF para nimu naay sayop ang Bibliya HALA biyai unya adtu pag focus sa internet source nimu. Kay ang Bibliya ni ingun man nga insakto siya ug kumpleto ang iyang explanation, gisugo pa gani sa Bibliya nga di Kuhaan ug pun-an kay kumpleto na. SO if para nimu naay sayop ang Bibliya so di diay na tinuod so maayung biyaan nlan.

Pero if masuta nimu nga ang Bibliya maka explain sa iyang kaugalingion, so mao nay gamita.

sakto ni tanan imong storya bro except lng sa half sa pikas side ug half sa pikas, dapat tanan then adto na mo decide. sakto ka, di gyud pwede isagol but both sides are essential ky wa man ka ma compare if 1 side lng. i think it's to early to decide, so gather more info, dig deeper, then bahalag unsa ka dugay anha nako mo decide, i mean your explanation could be true, and their explanation could also be true also, so need more info to support each other pa ko

just like my example, katong adopted, i'll do what is the best thing to do, knowing who really i am is very important for me, what would be the next step, ask the current family and investigate, then katong nagsulti nga adopted ra ko, ask kinsa ang imong tinood nga parents, then do DNA testing, which of course dugay dugay gyud na process, then conclude a, anak diay ko sa among silingan

usahay naa pud bya obvious thing like puti ang pamilya unya ikaw itom kaayo, or pareha gyud ka ug nawong sa inyong silingan

[walker]

Kay naa diay UNREAL teachings ni Jesus?

[sakagawasan]

TS kung naa kay mga pangutana sa imong pagtuo ang Istorya.Net dili makatubag ana kay naa daghan diri magpahighest2x(as if daghan nahibaloan nya convincing kaayo kay magquote2x og mga verses). Ang mas maayo pa, modoul ka sa leader sa inyong tinouhan, kay siguro ko makahatag gyud siya og tubag sa imong mga pangutana.

Pwede ra man sad na motiwalag ka sa imong religion kung sa imong tan-aw naay sayop na interpretasyon sa pagtuo sa mga gitudlo ni Kristo ug mopadayon ka sa imong pagtuo sa imong nasabtan na tinoud sa iyang mga gitudlo. Mao man gani naa daghan, sekta or sanga ang Kristiyanismo tungod sa managlahi na pagtuo o interpretasyon sa mga gitudlo ni Kristo. Sa kadaghan sa mga uban religion na nagtuo ni Kristo naa man siguro bisan usa ni-fit sa imong pagtuo. Wala lang ko marecommend nimo kay dili ko Kristyano.

Basta mao lang ni itanom sa imong alimpatakan, walay si bisan kinsa makababag nato sa atoa gituohan. Dautan man na sa ilaha, so be it. At least you are doing what you think is right!

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

What does Image and likeness of God means:

Before we elaborate on what being created in the image and likeness of God means, it is appropriate to inquire as to what it does not mean. First, it does not mean that we are divine. Satan strives daily, of course to persuade us to believe that we are God (Genesis 3:5). In fact, deification of self is the central message of the New Age Movement. Consider, for example, the following quotation from Ramtha, a so-called “channeled” spirit that allegedly speaks from a higher realm through New Ager J.Z. Knight:

“I am Ramtha, the Enlightened One, indeed. And who be you, my most illustrious brotheren, who have gathered yourselves into this wondrous audience? You be that which is termed Man, you be that which is termed Christus, you be that which is termed God. Fallacy? Reality! You be of your importance and your value and your word far greater than that which you have first concluded yourself to be. You be the totality of all that The Father is: God Supreme. What else be there? What grander state is there?”.

The biblical statement that mankind has been created in the “image and likeness of God.” God’s Word does not indicate that He created men and women in His essence, but in His image (Genesis 1:26). Only God is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient.

God revealed this truth when He said to the king of Tyre through Ezekiel: “You say, ‘I am a god, and sit in the seat of gods, in the midst of the seas,’ yet, you are a man and not a god” (Ezekiel 28:2, emp. added). In the Bible, only the wicked elevate themselves to the status of deity. King Herod flirted with self-deification—and died in a horrific manner as a result.



You miss something there, The SON has co-existed with the Father before the beginning. "In the same way we must think of the Son always, so to speak, streaming forth from the Father, like light from a lamp, or heat from a fire, or thoughts from a mind. He is the self-expression of the Father-what the Father has to say. And there never was a time when He was not saying it. But have you noticed what is happening? All these pictures of light or heat are making it sound as if the Father and Son were two things instead of two Persons. So that after all, the New Testament picture of a Father and a Son turns out to be much more accurate than anything we try to substitute for it. That is what always happens when you go away from the words of the Bible." -cs lewis.

Isaiah9:6: For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Note the statement "child is born, son is given" it means Christ is begotten, not created. What does it mean?

We don't use the words begetting or begotten much in modern English, but everyone still knows what they mean. To beget is to become the father of: to create is to make. And the difference is this. When you beget, you beget something of the same kind as yourself. A man begets human babies, a beaver begets little beavers and a bird begets eggs which turn into little birds. But when you make, you make something of a different kind from yourself. A bird makes a nest, a beaver builds a dam, a man makes a wireless set-or he may make something more like himself than a wireless set : say, a statue. If he is a clever enough carver he may make a statue which is very like a man indeed. But, of course, it is not a real man; it only looks like one. It cannot breathe or think. It is not alive.

Now that is the first thing to get clear. What God begets is God; just as what man begets is man. What God creates is not God; just as what man makes is not man. That is why men are not Sons of God in the sense that Christ is. They may be like God in certain ways, but they are not things of the same kind. They are more like statues or pictures of God.

Trinity Help From C.S. Lewis



TS, it is so important to understand the fall of man in the garden of Eden para mas broader atong understanding of the current situation. Coz it's the same tool the devil used to divert man from the truths of God's word.

Ge:3:3: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Ge:3:4: And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Ge:3:5: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

MAS ANGAY GANI THE MORE TANG MAGSERYOSO KARON NGA TIME NGADTO SA GINOO KAY NAGKA OBVIOUS NA ANG MGA BUTANG/PROPHECIES NGA GIREMIND SA BIBLE.


God bless.

Thanks bro, i like your input. Upon reading your post and compare it with other source, I come to analyze this:

We are all sons of God, of course kung babae, daughter, ambot lng ang bayot ug sons or daughters ba? we are all created in the same image and likeness, God is pure goodness, and so inside us is pure goodness also. God is Soul and so is our souls. Satan rebelled against God, he was able to convince others to rebel against God. They dwell on earth (so mamutang nga earth, mao ang hell), now, even God love satan and his followers but si satan di gyud siya, he wants to have his own kingdom diri sa earth. so unsa man iya gibuhat, gipatoo niya nga tao nga you can do whatever you want diri sa earth, you can be happy on earth, so they will love the earthly life and forget about God. He lied about God and the nature of man, he deceived us nga dili ta mahimong ginoo, and that the only son of God is Jesus para makaingon pud ang tao nga tao ra gyud ta, si Jesus ra ang Ginoo.

ngano iya ma ning gibuhat? because if ang tao, mubalik sa Ginoo, kinsa pa man ang mahabilin dri, siya na lng. kanang binuhatan sa tao nga maayo, mao na ang sa Ginoo, ang dli maayo mao na sa satanas. so once accepted na sa tao nga si Jesus ra ang God, he will not work his best, he will not do even a single step of knowing who really is, who really his father is. he will not remember that he is god the son of God. But tungod ky son of God man siya, sometimes, he will really do good bisan naa sa earth, but bec ky limot man siya nga pure goodness nga nature nya, he will do bad things just to live a happy life sa earth.

now, once man remembers that he is god, the son of God, he will return to his Father. And that is not acceptable by satan. how to support those explanations. man is body, spirit and soul. if we identify ourselves with our bodies, then we are earthbound ruled by satan, and of course our parents will be our biological parents. but if we think that we are souls, we will remember our Father who is God then we will long to go back to our Father. Son soul-Father soul (our soul-God).

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

How do we know that Jesus is GOD?

Here are a few points about the identity of Jesus that you can find in the Bible. The earliest Christian authors:

explicitly asserted the deity of the Son in such passages as John 1:1; 20:28; Romans 9:5; Philippians 2:6; Titus 2:13; and 1 John 5:20.
applied divine names to Jesus (Isaiah 9:6; Luke 2:11; Isaiah 40:3; Matthew 3:3; Jeremiah 23:5–6; Luke 1:32-33; Joel 2:32; and Acts 2:21).
ascribed to Him divine attributes.
Eternal existence — Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1-2; Revelation 1:8; 22:13
Omnipresence — Matthew 18:20; 28:20; John 3:13
Omniscience — John 2:24-25; 21:17; Revelation 2:23
Omnipotence — Isaiah 9:6; Philippians 3:21; Revelation 1:8
Immutability — Hebrews 1:10-12; 13:8
Every attribute belonging to the Father — Colossians 2:9
spoke of Him as doing divine works.
Creation — John 1:3, 10; Colossians 1:16; Hebrews 1:2, 10
Providence — Luke 10:22; John 3:35; 17:2; Ephesians 1:22;
Colossians 1:17; Hebrews 1:3
Forgiveness of sins — Matthew 9:2-7; Mark 2:7-10; Colossians 3:13
Resurrection and judgment — Matthew 25:31, 32; John 5:19-29;
Acts 10:42; 17:31; Philippians 3:21; 2 Timothy 4:1
The final dissolution and renewal of all things — Hebrews 1:10-12;
Philemon 3:21; Revelation 21:5
accorded Him divine honor (John 5:22-23; 14:1; 1 Peter 1:6–7; 2 Peter 1:17; Revelation 5:13).

can you explain the Bible verse below, i have my own explanation but need also your to compare.

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" (Matt. 7:21-23)

klaro man si Jesus ani nga dili siya Lord or God, he even called those who say he is Lord "evildoers", and only those who do the will of his father will enter the kingdom of heaven

"My teaching is not my own. It comes from Him who sent me." (John 7:16)
Jesus was sent as representative of God, to spread the teachings that comes from God

"If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but He sent me." (John 8:42)

These and many other statements by Jesus clarified that he is not God. He is sent by God. He is God's representative.