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    @Breakeven/JcBoY: what does it mean? T^T

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    @Breakeven/JcBoY: what does it mean? T^T
    Salamun alaykum Sis, Eid Mubarak!

    He term marrying in Islam as "BUYING" women to be a wife! and the rich men which can afford to have more are luckier than those men who are poor. He should know that MARRIAGE in Islam is an ESSENTIAL part of the religion.
    Last edited by JcBoY; 08-23-2012 at 01:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JcBoY View Post
    Why are you the one answering the question which is intended for Sis. LaBelleza?

    And your term is "PALIT", ok ka lang? What do you think of the women, PROSTITUTE because you have to buy them?
    sorry if it offended u. maybe i have a wrong perception about dowry. can you give us more info about this please?
    Definition: A gift from the groom to the bride at the time of marriage in Islam. Often translated as "dowry," a term which is misleading as the mahr remains the property of the bride after marriage. The mahr is meant to offer the bride financial security within and after the marriage.

    Examples:
    When Mohammad and Nour married, he gave her a mahr of $50,000 which remains in her savings account.

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    Waalaikumussalam! Eid Mubarak to u too! I hope u had an easy Ramadan

    Ooh, oh dear. Well, that's totally incorrect. That's what my dad used to think. Alhamdulillah, he knows better now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    Well, it was a custom more common during the prophet's (pbuh) time to "save" widowed women whose husband's that died in battle and support them/look after them rather than have them wander around the streets alone.

    A reason why polygamy is permitted is that if a husband and wife cannot conceive and he cannot bear adopting a stranger's child, he may marry another woman (single of course) with the permission of his first wife. He has to be able to treat them equally, so if he gives his first wife a 20K ring, he must give the 2nd a 20K ring too :P

    It is a belief amongst Christians that polygamy goes against natural law...but really? What about polygamy practiced in the Old Testament? This is a good read Polygamy in Islam, Monogamy, Bigamy, Multiple Wifes, Polygamous, Mistress, Family Planning

    The Quran mentions permission of marrying up to four wives however, is the only scripture in the world that says "marry only one". It was later that the Hindu Priests and Christian Church restricted the number of wives to one.

    Taken from an article on Women's Rights http://www.al-islam.org/womanrights/11.htm:
    Courteous behaviour towards woman is the main part of the chivalry which the Europeans learnt from the Muslims. It was Islam, and not the religion of Christ, as is believed by the common people, that enhanced the position of woman.
    First and foremost look at the timeline between the old testament and new, it is more than 2 thousand years. Which means as per ancestor of both our faith we share a common one which was Abraham. Polygamy was a common practice either before him or after him.

    Secondly Christianity and Judaism is not one and the same thing. We believe in Jesus Christ but not the Jewish people. So what their practices culturally is different to mine.

    So our belief in one wife comes from the teaching of Christ which is absolute no "ifs and buts", no options or justifications, or whatsoever.

    Lastly, Jesus was the prime example of treating women. He showed the value of women exemplified by his treatment to His mother, Martha, Mary, The greek syro-phoenician woman, the canaanite woman, the Samarian woman, the prostitutes, and many more.

    I can only speak and know what I know about Christ and how valuable morality is in my faith..

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    ^^

    Dowry doesn't just have to be money. My husband gave me jewellery instead of money at our Nikah (marriage ceremony). If a husband gives his wife money, it belongs to her entirely and she can do whatever she wants with it. He doesn't "buy" her like a cow.

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    @jeremiahjay. Muhammad pbuh too was the best example of the right way of treating women. I agree with u about Jesus pbuh. I respect him, even more so now that I'm Muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    ^^

    Dowry doesn't just have to be money. My husband gave me jewellery instead of money at our Nikah (marriage ceremony). If a husband gives his wife money, it belongs to her entirely and she can do whatever she wants with it. He doesn't "buy" her like a cow.
    okay sis i understand/. because that's what most marriages in the middle east was arranged. no money no honey is it true that parents would be happier if they have a girl than a boy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    okay sis i understand/. because that's what most marriages in the middle east was arranged. no money no honey is it true that parents would be happier if they have a girl than a boy?
    Both male and female children are equal in the eyes of Allah since He is the One to choose a baby's gender. Parents must not favour one over the other coz that's considered as an act of injustice.

    Actually, before Islam, baby girls were killed and buried coz it brought shame and Muhammad (pbuh) stopped this female infanticide. He said:

    “The one who raises a daughter properly, she shall be his pass into Heaven.” Another time he said, “Whoever has a daughter, and he does not bury her alive, does not insult her, and does not favor his son over her, Allah will enter him into Paradise.”

    Perhaps that's where the confusion of females being preferred came from.
    Last edited by LaBelleza; 08-24-2012 at 12:12 PM.

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    naa tingali absolute na pud relative...kana kon ato jud i compartmentalized...pero naa pud absolute karon situation pero relative na sa sad sunod...kapuya ani uya

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