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    ecclesiastes 3:11
    He has made every thing beautiful in its time: also he has put eternity in men's hearts, so that no man can find out the work that God does from the beginning to the end.

    mao nang naay haw-ang atong sulod and will long for eternal bliss tungod sa gidesign sa ginoo nato!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heroimba View Post
    So kung ingon ana mn diay..Naa ko pangutana: Nganu sa Bibliya puro rmn taga Egypt og Jerusalem naka butang pasabot WALA diay pulos ang uban race sa Ginoo? Unya nganu gi himu mn ta sa Ginoo nga lain2x og RACE kung ganahan sya mag hiusa tang tanan and pls don't tell me about katong tower sa babylon kay pure BS rato.
    Are you sure nga puro ra taga Egypt and Jerusalem naka butang sa Bibliya? How about the Amalekites? The Amorites? The Moabites? The Canaanites? The Jebusites? The Assyrians in Nineveh? The Chaldeans? Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon is in the Bible. I could go forever brod enumerating different races in the Bible. These were not Egyptians nor were from Jerusalem. These are different races and they are in the Bible. So klaroha usa brod og puros raba gyud taga Egypt or from Jerusalem ang naka butang sa Bibliya. And yes GOD wants us to be united under HIM. If we all choose to unite under HIM then ma unite ta under HIM. Kita raman mga tawo dili gusto magka united. Others even chose to deny the very GOD that created them so please don't blame GOD why the disunity. Simple ra gyud kaau and equation. If one wants unity under HIM then choose HIM. Makes sense noh?

  3. #143

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonGlow View Post
    its alryt brad

    im the captain of my ship

    even if it is a wreck
    Well IMHO a ship that is a wreck is not a pretty sight. There is someone that can captain the ship so it won't be a wreck. That someone is GOD. "In all your ways acknowledge HIM, and HE will make straight your paths. Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil. It will be healing to your flesh and refreshment to your bones." (Proverbs 3:6-. Not a wreck but healed and refreshed. Nothing to lose but something to gain. It's a good offer I think, I can't see the reason why a lot of people refuse it. Oh well, I guess it's just their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    Lawgawa gibaligtad hinuon.. hehe.. dapat ikaw mangitag bersikulo nganong gipasagdan sa imong amo ang iyang buotang anak nahagbong ila eroplano didto masbate! Haskang..
    GOD did not even spare HIS Son Jesus Christ to die a painful death so that you and I and everybody else may have eternal life. Well, God did not forsake the "buotang anak" when their plane crashed in the waters of Masbate because the "buotang anak" especially the pilot whom I personally knew, a God-fearing man, a kind and loving pastor to his congregation is now surely in the presence of the Lord. If the Lord Jesus can take a trusting criminal with him to Paradise how much more for this "buotang anak". The Bible said that if we put our trust in the Lord Jesus we'll have eternal life. What if it's not true and I trusted in Him? Well, it's a draw we all become fertilizers anyway. But what if it's true and I trusted in Him? Then it's a win, a gain, eternal life and bliss. And what if I didn't trust in Him. It's also eternity. Eternity in the lake of fire.

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    to live is christ and to die is gain! dili jud kapildihan ang kamatayon para sa mga kristohanon coz we've been assured of the blessed hope of eternal glory with God! if this was a false promise, walay magpakamatay nga followers para lang mo stand sa ilang testimony about the risen lord. This long line of martyrs who were persecuted for their zeal and never recant to preach the truth til this present times!

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    it's funny our attempts to explain something that can never be explained because it is simply not within our reach.

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    Basin mo vacation pud na c god ge sum olan sigeg tan aw nato nga mga badlongon! ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    Let me just jump in ha kay nalingaw ko.
    So, if naay bagyo: tungod sa free will.
    Nganong gibaha? tungod sa free will.
    Ngano na-crash ang gisakyan ni Robredo? tungod sa free will.
    What im trying to say is Tanan nahitabo sa tawo sa kalibutan, Not tanang panghitabo sa kalibutan.Sorry for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    Dili ba ang bitin man ang naghatag og huna-huna kay gipakaon sila Adan ug Eba sa tree of knowledge? Dili ba gidid-an man sila sa Ginoo sa pagkaon ato?
    Correct, unsay problema ana? Naa silay freewill to do what they want to do Pero ghatagan sad sila ug LAIN Choice Not to exercise their freewill.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    Free will, but ang di motuo niya adto sa impyerno? Giduwa-duwaan ra diay ta ani og mao na?
    Papa: anak, naa ra nimo unsa imo buhaton ha. Pwede ka dili motuo nako. But if dili ka motuo, bunalan tika. Pero pwede na.
    Unsa may duwa duwa anang hatagan nimu ug Choice ang tawo? its a choice to be with God or Not to be with God? Ug ghatagan pa jud ug info unsay consequences sa mga choices, unsay naka duwa-duwa ana?

    If pugson nimu ang tawo mukuyog nimu bisag di siya ganahan mukuyog nimu - Naay sense na para nimu?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    Wala niya gi-violate kay iyaha gipasagdan but if dili motawag niya iyaha ibutang sa nagdilaab nga kalayo? FREE WILL.
    So, if imohang parents muslim, lagmit muslim sad ka ron. And mao na ang FREE WILL? Grabeha gud aning free will gud. Maghimo na lang ko og religion nga free will.
    Free Will diay tawag nimu anang bisag di ganahan ang tawo makig uban nimu imung pugson? Ghatagan gani kag Choice nya gipasabot pa jud ka unsay Consequencies sa imung Choice...

    Unsay diay pasabot nimu for example sa eskwela, ang batang walay sulod-sulod walay pasar pasar maka graduate same sa mga bata nga nagkugi ug tuon ug skwela? Mao guro nay Mentalidad nimu - Nga gusto ka buhaton nimu bisag unsa bisag sala pa na nya Gusto ka ug Reward same sa mga nagtinarung ug ni follow sa balaod. nindot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    What im trying to say is Tanan nahitabo sa tawo sa kalibutan, Not tanang panghitabo sa kalibutan.Sorry for that.
    Point taken.

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Correct, unsay problema ana? Naa silay freewill to do what they want to do Pero ghatagan sad sila ug LAIN Choice Not to exercise their freewill.
    Gidid-an man gud sila sa Ginoo sa pagkaon sa fruit of knowledge. Unya free will na nuon?

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Unsa may duwa duwa anang hatagan nimu ug Choice ang tawo? its a choice to be with God or Not to be with God? Ug ghatagan pa jud ug info unsay consequences sa mga choices, unsay naka duwa-duwa ana?
    Duwa-duwa siya for me kay naay free will unya dapat iyaha gihapong pagbuot matuman.

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    If pugson nimu ang tawo mukuyog nimu bisag di siya ganahan mukuyog nimu - Naay sense na para nimu?
    If di siya ganahan mokuyog, di ka kapugos mao na ang free will. But to say nga, you will suffer grave consequences if dili ka mokuyog. Sakto na?

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Free Will diay tawag nimu anang bisag di ganahan ang tawo makig uban nimu imung pugson? Ghatagan gani kag Choice nya gipasabot pa jud ka unsay Consequencies sa imung Choice...
    Free will but dapat iyaha gihapong gusto matuman? Unsay sense?
    Ex: Pwede ka motuo nako o dili. But akong gusto motuo ka. So, if di ka motuo sa impyerno ka puniton.
    Apas: Unya naa pa jud akong anghel sauna nga si Satanas akong gipasagdan nga motintal ninyo. But naa moy free will, naay hell, naay temptation.

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Unsay diay pasabot nimu for example sa eskwela, ang batang walay sulod-sulod walay pasar pasar maka graduate same sa mga bata nga nagkugi ug tuon ug skwela? Mao guro nay Mentalidad nimu - Nga gusto ka buhaton nimu bisag unsa bisag sala pa na nya Gusto ka ug Reward same sa mga nagtinarung ug ni follow sa balaod. nindot.
    Psychologist na diay ka ron? Mao nay problema ninyo. If lahi ang tinuohan, kay bisan unsa lang iparatang. Tsk. I'll TRY to explain my side ha.

    Una, I don't need to be threatened with hell to do something good. I don't need reward. Only selfish people want to be rewarded. I do what is right because it is the right thing to do.

    Next, if naay free will, ngano man nga kinahanglan man naay grave consequences? Asa ang thin line between free will and responsibility?

    Sunod, if nakakita siya nga the world is in disarray [because of free will or any other reasons], ngano dili man siya mo step in and patch things up?

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    gihubad ang butang wala tay nahibaloan, pulos pangagpas lamang.

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