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    Quote Originally Posted by heroimba View Post
    So kung ingon ana mn diay..Naa ko pangutana: Nganu sa Bibliya puro rmn taga Egypt og Jerusalem naka butang pasabot WALA diay pulos ang uban race sa Ginoo? Unya nganu gi himu mn ta sa Ginoo nga lain2x og RACE kung ganahan sya mag hiusa tang tanan and pls don't tell me about katong tower sa babylon kay pure BS rato.
    it started with the Jews but doesn't mean that salvation is only for Jews.
    even the Jews were divided when Christ came.gentiles were no longer called gentiles,people are no longer identified by their races and color.but by faith in Christ.we can be united under one faith in God.
    hence the commandments of Jesus doesn't include racial issues...First is to Love God with all we've got
    second which sums up all the rest of the 9 commandments in the 10 commandments and is equally important as the first one
    which is to Love one another as we Love ourselves..one another is free from any racial disputes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unDisclosed View Post
    Sus, og niingon palang ka wala ka kahibawo mas mobilib pa unta ko nimo. O dili ba hinuon tubagon nimo ang pangutana. Ngano naabot man ka sa free will (which is flawed, btw) nga ang ako pangutana ngano nagbuwag-buwag pa man ta [religious affiliation, language, social status and so on] If he is an omnipotent God, iyaha na unta giwala tanan barriers and made us one again.

    Free will is irrelevant since the focus of the issue is what the God can do, not what He allows the people to do.

    freewill has everything to with it man bai, kay it started with adam and eve's decision to disobey
    then the later generation to worship what they can see instead of a God that they can't free will gihapun..

    when they chose not to follow the God of abraham and His commandments through His prophets
    that actuall caused the division..diba one who decides otherwise is an act of freewil.?

    diba kung wa ka kauyon sa inyong kumpanya, mu decide ka whether to seek answers or muhawa nalang...
    free will gihapun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    freewill has everything to with it man bai, kay it started with adam and eve's decision to disobey
    then the later generation to worship what they can see instead of a God that they can't free will gihapun..

    when they chose not to follow the God of abraham and His commandments through His prophets
    that actuall caused the division..diba one who decides otherwise is an act of freewil.?

    diba kung wa ka kauyon sa inyong kumpanya, mu decide ka whether to seek answers or muhawa nalang...
    free will gihapun.
    So, ang first post ni TS is because of free will?

    Here, let me remind you:

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonGlow View Post
    Why do bad things happen to good people?
    Why do calamities destroy thousands of humanity?
    Why do lies seem to win over honesty most of the time?
    Why do prayers seem not to work?

    Because, sometimes God is on leave, and no one is in control...and there is only One God!
    The problem with some people noh is:
    --If positive ang panghitabo: Praise the Lord!
    --If negative: God has plans.

    The problem:
    1. Wala natagae og saktong appreciation ang angay matagaan ini.Walay kwenta imo paningkamot? walay kwenta ang nitabang nimo?
    2. Dili ma-correct ang negative nga panghitabo kay isalig man lang tanan sa Ginoo.
    Okay ra man ang pagsalig ba. Ayaw lang nang blind faith.

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    nobody knows the exact truth.

  5. #115

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    ... wow debate mode da. Read mode lang ko . Nice topic.

  6. #116

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    Quote Originally Posted by unDisclosed View Post

    The problem with some people noh is:
    --If positive ang panghitabo: Praise the Lord!
    --If negative: God has plans.

    The problem:
    1. Wala natagae og saktong appreciation ang angay matagaan ini.Walay kwenta imo paningkamot? walay kwenta ang nitabang nimo?
    2. Dili ma-correct ang negative nga panghitabo kay isalig man lang tanan sa Ginoo.
    Okay ra man ang pagsalig ba. Ayaw lang nang blind faith.
    True,faith without action is a dead faith..many practice that faith blindly by just waiting for God to move and disregarding all the capabilities and talents that we've been blessed.

    efforts are appreciated,people around us who gives us strength,peolpe who inspires us are one
    of the reasons why i say "praise the Lord." for it is rightful to praise the giver rather than the gifts.

    when bad things happen, God really has a plan.a plan of how to come up with something good
    out from the wrong dicisions and actions we normally take.

    diba naay mga butang sa una nga grabe kau nato gika ulaw.mga sayop nga grabe nato gibasulan...
    but those mistakes actually made us who we are,for through them we learn,we grow and we became stronger..
    hadn't we made them? we wouldn't have learned.
    God's perfection is the perfect tandem of our imprefections.

    and speaking of TS'original post, here's my idea about them

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    1.Because both good and bad people co-exist.
    2.Calamaties remain a mystery on how and why they happen but mankind's abusive nature,selfishness and stubborness has a share on the casualties.
    3.because this world is not perfect,people running this world aren't perfect either.
    4.They do, mostly not from our point of view.besides, we may know what's good for us, but we would never know what's best for us..that's why the term "blessing in disguise" came to place.
    God is on Leave? kaw ba yan bruce almighty?
    agree that the topic was more on about God being absent rather than human free will
    however these are relative discussions, dili jud malikayan nga tackle ni nga issue.
    Last edited by noy; 08-22-2012 at 05:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonGlow View Post
    Why do bad things happen to good people?
    Why do calamities destroy thousands of humanity?
    Why do lies seem to win over honesty most of the time?
    Why do prayers seem not to work?

    Because, sometimes God is on leave, and no one is in control...and there is only One God!
    these are issues that have hounded mankind for the longest time. and while men have ruled earth for eras, the thing is, we have yet to gain complete understanding. nobody can claim to hold THE answers simply because no one really knows. we have beliefs but at times, they do not really satisfy our emotional turmoils. sometimes, we console ourselves by embracing things we do not fully understand but have full faith in. whatever that may be, the most important thing is that we feel at peace with ourselves despite the persistent questions and we continue to live the way we feel we should.

    imho..

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    freewill has everything to with it man bai, kay it started with adam and eve's decision to disobey
    then the later generation to worship what they can see instead of a God that they can't free will gihapun..

    when they chose not to follow the God of abraham and His commandments through His prophets
    that actuall caused the division..diba one who decides otherwise is an act of freewil.?

    diba kung wa ka kauyon sa inyong kumpanya, mu decide ka whether to seek answers or muhawa nalang...
    free will gihapun.
    I really can't believe why people in this point of time still believes that we all came from adam and eve. Even the Vatican (I say Vatican cause dri sa ato luma ghapun) admitted that we came from evolution.

    And if u guys didn't know..Christ's body was already discovered. Ingon ni adto syag heaven? hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by heroimba View Post
    I really can't believe why people in this point of time still believes that we all came from adam and eve. Even the Vatican (I say Vatican cause dri sa ato luma ghapun) admitted that we came from evolution.

    And if u guys didn't know..Christ's body was already discovered. Ingon ni adto syag heaven? hehe
    those were merely examples of human free will bai..

    and if Christ's body was found,that would defeat the resurrection and thus void
    Christianity.

    if you claim such, can you at least elaborate with proofs?

    evolution really is at present,however something like human beings couldn't have just come from a non-living thing.
    if you say that the vatican believed that we evolved from chimps or stone, or fish...
    can you give a difinite proof, a statement that has been accepted nationally?
    speculations yeah but proofs? not so sure about that.
    or you just googled it and landed on some comfortable sites?
    Last edited by noy; 08-22-2012 at 06:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    those were merely examples of human free will bai..

    and if Christ's body was found,that would defeat the resurrection and thus void
    Christianity.

    if you claim such, can you at least elaborate with proofs?

    evolution really is at present,however something like human beings couldn't have just come from a non-living thing.
    if you say that the vatican believed that we evolved from chimps or stone, or fish...
    can you give a difinite proof, a statement that has been accepted nationally?
    speculations yeah but proofs? not so sure about that.
    or you just googled it and landed on some comfortable sites?
    I am not claiming to be an expert in evolution. But I know for one thing that it does not say, a living thing came from a non-living thing. It also does not say that we came from chimps, stone or fish. Please get your facts straight.

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