Let's Be Honest(Bible based Religion).

[cebu.opportunities]

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in what area? di ba ingon ka nga daghang manuscript karon nga gi pang manipulate sa mga taw?

but before ta mopadayun, King James ra ba ang imong gitohoan nga inspired word of God and the rest are bogus?

TS, naa ky lain nkit.an nga accurate or nearly precise translation? Please name them... ty

[Mandirigma]

yes abosulutely......kay kung imong e compare ang King James bible to any other translations makita nimo na perti ra jud layua.


Question bro: unsa man di ay klaseha na greek ang gigamit kaniadto sa mga taw na ga translate sa bible? kani kay ni hisgot naman jud ka ug greek.

unya ra pangutana bro ako sa. di ta maghoman kong mag sugat atong questions.

refer to my link then give me your idea kong una man gni?

[defender_1611]

no, im saying nga naa nay gatoon nga mga scholars regarding anang mga manuscripts nga greek og hebrew. naa may osa diri gud nga in ingon nga lisod tun.an, di nata magtoon pa but ang atong ton.an kay ang ilang mga works.

sa arena sa mga scholars bro gi acknowledge na jud na nga dunay daghang variants ang manuscripts. proven na na, so di na na angay pa e limod.

okay so you say nga ligon ang King James, pero imo ra pod ng bias bro di ba? let me point you to this link...Why I Do Not Think the King James Bible Is the Best Translation Available Today | Bible.org - Worlds Largest Bible Study Site

let me post some part gikan sa link...
the Greek text which stands behind the King James Bible is demonstrably inferior in certain places. The man who edited the text was a Roman Catholic priest and humanist named Erasmus.¹ He was under pressure to get it to the press as soon as possible since (a) no edition of the Greek New Testament had yet been published, and (b) he had heard that Cardinal Ximenes and his associates were just about to publish an edition of the Greek New Testament and he was in a race to beat them. Consequently, his edition has been called the most poorly edited volume in all of literature! It is filled with hundreds of typographical errors which even Erasmus would acknowledge.

sugud sa ta sa History sa Bible bro ha? para ma sukod nako kung asa ko mu lugar ug deal nimo.....

As the reign of Elizabeth (1558-1603) was coming to a close, we find a draft for an act of Parliament for a new version of the Bible: "An act for the reducing of diversities of bibles now extant in the English tongue to one settled vulgar translated from the original." The Bishop's Bible of 1568, although it may have eclipsed the Great Bible, was still rivaled by the Geneva Bible. Nothing ever became of this draft during the reign of Elizabeth, who died in 1603, and was succeeded by James 1, as the throne passed from the Tudors to the Stuarts. James was at that time James VI of Scotland, and had been for thirty-seven years. He was born during the period between the Geneva and the Bishop's Bible.

One of the first things done by the new king was the calling of the Hampton Court Conference in January of 1604 "for the hearing, and for the determining, things pretended to be amiss in the church." Here were assembled bishops, clergymen, and professors, along with four Puritan divines, to consider the complaints of the Puritans. Although Bible revision was not on the agenda, the Puritan president of Corpus Christi College, John Reynolds, "moved his Majesty, that there might be a new translation of the Bible, because those which were allowed in the reigns of Henry the eighth, and Edward the sixth, were corrupt and not answerable to the truth of the Original."

The king rejoined that he:

"Could never yet see a Bible well translated in English; but I think that, of all, that of Geneva is the worst. I wish some special pains were taken for an uniform translation, which should be done by he best learned men in both Universities, then reviewed by the Bishops, presented to the Privy Council, lastly ratified by the Royal authority, to be read in the whole Church, and none other."

[Mandirigma]

TS, naa ky lain nkit.an nga accurate or nearly precise translation? Please name them... ty

translation or version? bible man kaha imo gipasabot bro?

kong mop ingon ta translation ang ako pasabot ana is ang katong mga greek words ba nga sa dihang e translate into english lahi lahi ang translation nga mogawas from the scholars like the one I posted in my first post.

[defender_1611]

unya ra pangutana bro ako sa. di ta maghoman kong mag sugat atong questions.

refer to my link then give me your idea kong una man gni?

ok cge....

[cebu.opportunities]

unsa na bro? kanang mo ingon nga guided or filled sila sa Holy spirit so sila ang sakto?

filled with the Holy Spirit. our mind is so powerful mao na isa ka area wherein gi-use kaayo ni satan. It creates confusion, misleading "scriptures", etc...

[Mandirigma]

sugud sa ta sa History sa Bible bro ha? para ma sukod nako kung asa ko mu lugar ug deal nimo.....

As the reign of Elizabeth (1558-1603) was coming to a close, we find a draft for an act of Parliament for a new version of the Bible: "An act for the reducing of diversities of bibles now extant in the English tongue to one settled vulgar translated from the original." The Bishop's Bible of 1568, although it may have eclipsed the Great Bible, was still rivaled by the Geneva Bible. Nothing ever became of this draft during the reign of Elizabeth, who died in 1603, and was succeeded by James 1, as the throne passed from the Tudors to the Stuarts. James was at that time James VI of Scotland, and had been for thirty-seven years. He was born during the period between the Geneva and the Bishop's Bible.

One of the first things done by the new king was the calling of the Hampton Court Conference in January of 1604 "for the hearing, and for the determining, things pretended to be amiss in the church." Here were assembled bishops, clergymen, and professors, along with four Puritan divines, to consider the complaints of the Puritans. Although Bible revision was not on the agenda, the Puritan president of Corpus Christi College, John Reynolds, "moved his Majesty, that there might be a new translation of the Bible, because those which were allowed in the reigns of Henry the eighth, and Edward the sixth, were corrupt and not answerable to the truth of the Original."

The king rejoined that he:

"Could never yet see a Bible well translated in English; but I think that, of all, that of Geneva is the worst. I wish some special pains were taken for an uniform translation, which should be done by he best learned men in both Universities, then reviewed by the Bishops, presented to the Privy Council, lastly ratified by the Royal authority, to be read in the whole Church, and none other."

hahaha. sukdon jud ko nimo funny man ka bro. set side lang sa na nato atong garbo bro ha. di man ni contest kong kinay mas taas og knowledge about sa history sa bible.

ang ato ani bro kay naa may mga scholars nga gahatag og critique ani so adto ta dagan nila or adto ta kuha og references. Then matud nila nga walay identical nga manuscripts. pasabot dunay mga phrases didto or words nga nagka lahi lahi.

para di ka mawala sa topic bro mas maayo sigoro nga imo sa basahon ang first post nako.

[Mandirigma]

filled with the Holy Spirit. our mind is so powerful mao na isa ka area wherein gi-use kaayo ni satan. It creates confusion, misleading "scriptures", etc...

ok so what about it bro? how is it related sa atong topic?

[defender_1611]

unya ra pangutana bro ako sa. di ta maghoman kong mag sugat atong questions.

refer to my link then give me your idea kong una man gni?

Sayop na siya bro....mangutana ka nako nganu man? kay tungod wala siya kahibaw kung unsa na klase na greek language ang gigamit kaniadto.....mao ra na akong stand......kung kahibaw pa na siya na kung unsa to na klaseha na greek ang gigamit kaniadto prior sa translation sa King James Bible kanang mga bersikulo na iyang mga gipang mention matubag ra na ug ma explain na nganu in.ani nganu ing.ana.

[cebu.opportunities]

translation or version? bible man kaha imo gipasabot bro?

kong mop ingon ta translation ang ako pasabot ana is ang katong mga greek words ba nga sa dihang e translate into english lahi lahi ang translation nga mogawas from the scholars like the one I posted in my first post.

naa unta koy gusto i-recommend nga English version sa Bible pero murag delikado, hehe... u're using your mind so much... actually, delikado pud if ako mo basa ky mind ako pirmi gamiton. dugay nko wai basa2x, I can't say if DAILY ba to gigamit... That version I'm referring to ky gi-translate gikan jud sa raw Greek words, not from translated na daan.