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    ang naka funny man gud is naa mo claim then u said from this book and then ang nag support ra sab to such claim same book ra pud.


    like muingon mu nga "si juan maka lupad"
    then when questioned or challenged "kinsa gaingon or kinsa maka testify?"
    answer pud nila is "si juan ra pud niingon and naka kita"

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    i want now!
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    Murag bata nga wala gihatagi ug kendi

    Science is a process that ignores you--it will disregard your WANTS--it will just continue being the tool it is until more and more data is gathered to come up with a better model and explanation of processes, a slow process indeed, but bear in mind that the processes being found out are indeed much better models than earlier ones, even if incomplete.

    Mao nga klaro dyud nga dili bagay ang scientific method sa imo, kay abi nimo magic ang science nga in one snap of a finger naa na dayon ang imong answers.

    -RODION

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    tell me or cite me some of these prophecies daw and also according to who? from a neutral source?
    i can give you more links if you need....
    if you want to understand, try to study the bible with a humble heart.

    Reasons To Believe : Fulfilled Prophecy: Evidence for the Reliability of the Bible
    10 Bible prophecies fulfilled recently

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    "Wala pay hope ang kinabuhi nya pangayuan pa gyud!" Hmmm, I think I understand this better now--sa ato pa, mao diay mag bayad or muhatag ug kwarta ang mga tao sa simbahan, para kunohay madelay ang ilang suffering--sibli murag bribing god so that god will spare them LOL And now I understand why our country is so corrupt--even in spirituality, naa na daan ang corruption, no wonder it's okay for most Filipinos to be corrupt--they even bribe god

    Unsay wala'y hope? Compared to the Christians and believers I know, the atheist friends and atheist people I know of are some of the liveliest, hopeful, creative, and talented people I know Wala siguro kabalo ang most people ani, kay when they hear "atheist" negative na dayon ang panan-aw.

    -RODION

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    ang naka funny man gud is naa mo claim then u said from this book and then ang nag support ra sab to such claim same book ra pud.
    like muingon mu nga "si juan maka lupad"
    then when questioned or challenged "kinsa gaingon or kinsa maka testify?"
    answer pud nila is "si juan ra pud niingon and naka kita"
    can you give an example sa imong giingon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    Atong i-shortcut, motuo mo nga inyong apohan ni evolve gikan sa bato? kataw-anan man paminawn nang inyong millions/billions of years ago nya atong lifespan dili gani kaabot ug 80 hapit. Then why til now wala paman jud napakita nga evidence of macro evolution?

    Kent Hovind - The Dangers of Evolution - YouTube

    Kani palang daan, klaro nga ang mga tawong parehas nimo wala dyud kasabot sa kataas sa mga panaon and thus fail to understand processes such as evolution and natural selection.

    Sir, i acknowledge you being a science professor/educator but lisud kung sayop ang atong understanding about evolution samot na kung gitudlo sa universities! ang simple nga challenge wala pa jud moy napakita bisan usa! ignorante manko aning mga butanga, so i ask for evidence nga tinuod nang macro evolution, ang bato mahimong living organism, ang kabayo tugkan ug pako, etc. etc.! Di ko gusto pahuwaton nimo ug millions of years para lang pag prove, i want now!
    please dont ever...ever talk about evidences gyud esp sa inyung claims of this "Faith" or this "God"

    kay para ninyo man gud naa mo license to have claims w/o presenting evidences kay para ninyu your "faith" is your evidence
    bitaw I admire how the bible was being deviced...so self sufficient kay siya naa mga claims then siya ra pud mu sulti sa evidence or support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    can you give an example sa imong giingon?
    follow the thread ui

    tanawa ra na mostly inyu mga responseit evolves within the bible ra gyud...helloooo!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Murag bata nga wala gihatagi ug kendi

    Science is a process that ignores you--it will disregard your WANTS--it will just continue being the tool it is until more and more data is gathered to come up with a better model and explanation of processes, a slow process indeed, but bear in mind that the processes being found out are indeed much better models than earlier ones, even if incomplete.

    Mao nga klaro dyud nga dili bagay ang scientific method sa imo, kay abi nimo magic ang science nga in one snap of a finger naa na dayon ang imong answers.
    -RODION
    Then why should people waste their time believing in those nonsense kung mas imposible man diay nga dili makahatag ug proof kay pahuwaton pa ug million years?

    I believe in evolution sir and i believe in science. But it should be the science that proves the truths of the bible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    Then why should people waste their time believing in those nonsense kung mas imposible man diay nga dili makahatag ug proof kay pahuwaton pa ug million years?

    I believe in evolution sir and i believe in science. But it should be the science that proves the truths of the bible!
    Science does not force anyone to believe in whatever it announces or releases--it's up to the people to decide using their own faculties and ability of comprehension to decide. If dili nimo kaya, then hala, ok ra mahimong religious believer, kay kinahanglan man dyud nimo na. Now ako kay kasabot man ko sa mga developments in scientific circles, so no problem for me, and so I don't need some substitute spiritual/religious explanation--I see and understand the data, period. Now if someone asks me for an explanation, diha lang ko motabang, but I won't FORCE my own interpretation and analysis of that data on someone else, I will merely share the data and let the person I'm talking to use HIS/HER own brain to figure out if the data is telling him this or that--if dili siya kapasa, problema na na niya. Mura gud ug iskwela--if you can't pass the test, you fail. Period.

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 07-31-2012 at 02:29 PM.

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    @mokiloo
    please dont ever...ever talk about evidences gyud esp sa inyung claims of this "Faith" or this "God" kay para ninyo man gud naa mo license to have claims w/o presenting evidences kay para ninyu your "faith" is your evidence.
    Part, kung nasulat nana sa history dili na mawala especially kung daghan ang makadungog ana nga incident! We don’t need to show you more evidence kay nahitabo nana kausa ra, dili pwede nga magpakamatay ug ikaduha si hesukristo para lang pagprove sa mga present atheists. Ang inyong claim nga gikan ta sa bato maoy pangitai ninyo ug evidence unsaon pag convince ang taw ana!

    bitaw I admire how the bible was being deviced...so self sufficient kay siya naa mga claims then siya ra pud mu sulti sa evidence or support.
    Not its not. It’s a book of history, a book that conveys the message of God in the past, present and the future to humanity. It’s 1,400 years in the making. Daghan taw ang places na involved diha, dili lang kay usa ka prophet or usa ka lugar. Achaeological archives and artifacts supports it. Skeptics can only speculate but dili na madeny bisan unsaon pa ug daut kay nakagamot na ang kamatuoran ana!

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