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    Default Re: It seems that this was too good of a life lesson not to pass on!


    a very good story. thank you for sharing :mrgreen:

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    Default Re: It seems that this was too good of a life lesson not to pass on!

    This is only a part of the book Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsche.
    This is his conversation with God. Try to keep an open mind. it's a very good read. take my word for it.
    it's not your average type of reading especially when it comes with God. It addresses to our
    beliefs as mythology. so it's a universal thing. non-religion.

    This is God explaining to him "what's it all about."

    you just have to be a bit patient, it's quite lengthy but when youre eager and earnest, you find answers. Smiley



    In the beginning, that which is, is all there was,
    and there was nothing else;
    Yet all that is could not know itself,
    because all that is, is all there was;
    And there was nothing else,
    and so all that is, was not;
    For in the absence of something else,
    all that is, is not.



    *All that is new, it was all there was, but this was not enough;
    For it could only know its utter magnificence conceptually, not experientially;

    Yet the experience of itself is that for which it longed.

    *For it wanted to know what it felt like to be so magnificent;
    Still this was impossible, because the very term, magnificent, is a relative term.
    All that is could not know, what it felt like, to be magnificent;
    Unless that which is not, showed up.
    In the absence of that which is not, that which is is not.


    The one thing that all that is new is there was nothing else, and so it could and would never
    know itself from a reference point outside of itself; Such a point did not exist. only one reference point
    existed and that was the single place within; The is not is, the am not am.
    Still the all of everything chose to know itself experientially.


    This energy,
    this pure-unseen-unheard-unobserved-and-therefore-unknown-by-anyone-else energy
    chose to experience itself as the utter magnifence it was.
    In order to do this, it realized it would have to use a reference point within.


    It reasoned quite correctly that any portion of itself
    would necessarily have to be less than the whole.
    And if it does simply divide itself into portions,
    each portion being less than the whole,
    could look back to the rest of itself, and see magnificence.


    And so, all that is, divided itself;
    Becoming in one glorious moment, that which is this, and that which is that.
    For the first time, this, and that existed; Quite apart from each other;
    And still, both existed simultaneously,

    as did, all that was neither.
    thus three elements suddenly existed,
    that which is here, that which is there,
    and that which is neither here nor there,
    but which must exist for here and there to exist.


    It is the nothing, which holds the everything.
    It is the non-space which holds the space.
    It is the all, which holds the parts.


    This Nothing, which holds the everything, is what some people call, God.
    Yet that is not accurate either; for it suggests, that there is something,
    God is not; Namely, everything that is not, nothing.


    But I am all things Seen and Unseen.
    So this description of me as the great Unseen,
    the no-thing, or the space between,
    an essentially eastern mystical definition of god
    is no more accurate than the essentially
    western practical description of god as all that is seen.


    Those who believe that god is all that is, and all that is not
    are those whose understanding is correct.


    Now, in creating that which is here, and that which is there;
    God made it possible, for God to know itself.


    In the moment of this great explosion from within, God created relativity;
    The greatest gift God ever gift to itself.
    Thus, relationship is the best ever gift that God ever gave to you.


    From the no-thing, thus sprang, the everything; A spiritual event
    entirely consistent incidentally with what your scientists call the
    big bang theory.


    As the elements of all, raised forth, time was created.
    For a thing was first here, then it was there.
    And the period it took to get from here, to there, was measurable.


    Just as the parts of itself which are seen began to define themselves,
    relative to each other, so to did the parts which are, unseen.


    God knew that for love to exist, and to know itself as pure love,
    its exact opposite had to exist as well.
    So God voluntarily created the great polarity.
    the absolute opposite of love, everything that love is not;
    what is now, called fear.


    In the moment fear existed, love could exist as a thing, that could be, experienced.
    It is this creation of duality, between love and its opposite, which humans refer to,
    in their various mythologies, as the birth of evil, the fall of adam,
    the rebellion of satan, and so forth.


    Just as you have chosen to personify your love as the character you call God,
    so have you chosen to personify abject fear, as the character you call the devil.


    Some on earth have established rather elaborate mythologies around this event, complete with
    scenarios of battles and war, angellic soldiers and devillish warriors, the forces of good and evil,
    of light and dark.

    This mythology has been mankind's early attempt to understand, and tell others in a way,
    they could understand. a cosmic occurence of which the human soul is deeply aware. but of which
    the mind can barely concieve.


    In rendering the universe as the divided version of itself,
    God produced from pure energy, all that now exist, both seen, and unseen.
    In other words, not only was the physical universe thus created,
    but the metaphysical universe as well. the part of god which forms
    the second half, of the am not am equation. ("i am what i am not")


    Also, exploded into an infinite number of units smaller than the whole.
    These energy units, you would call, spirits.


    In some of your religious mythologies, it is stated
    that God the Father had many spirit children.
    This, parallel to the human experiences of life multiplying itself
    seems to be the only way people could be made to, hold in the reality
    the sudden appearance, the sudden existence, of countless spirits,
    in the kingdom of heaven.

    In this instance, your mythical tales and stories
    are not so far from ultimate reality.
    For the endless spirits, comprising to the totality of me,
    are, in a cosmic sense, my offspring.


    My divine purpose in dividing me was to create
    sufficient parts of me, so i could know myself, experientially.


    There was only one way for the creator to know itself experientially
    as the creator, and that is to create;
    And so i gave to each of the countless parts of me,
    to all of my spirit children, the same power to create, which i have, as the whole.
    This is what your religions mean when they say
    That you were created in the image and likeness of God.


    This doesn't mean, as some have suggested, that our physical bodies look alike, although
    God can adopt to whatever physical form god chooses for a particular purpose.
    It does mean, that our essence is the same. we are composed of the same stuff.


    We are the same stuff, with all the same properties, and abilities, including the
    ability to create physical reality out of thin air.


    My purpose in creating you my spiritual offspring,
    was for me to know myself, as, God.


    I have no way to do that, save through you. thus it can be said,
    and has been, many times, that my purpose for you,
    is that you should know yourself, as Me.


    This seems so amazingly simple yet it comes very complex because there is only one way for you
    to know yourself as me, and that is for you first to know yourself as not me.


    Now try to follow this, try to keep up because this gets very subtle here, you ready? Remember
    you have asked for this explanation, you've waited for it for years, you've asked for it in layman's
    terms, not theological doctrines, or scientific theories. And having ask, so shall you receive.


    Now keep things simple, i'm gonna use your children of god mythological model as a basis for discussion,
    because it's the model which you are familiar. and in many ways it is not far off. So let's go back to how
    this process of self-knowing must work.


    There is one way I could have caused all my spiritual children to know themselves
    as part of me, and that was simply to tell them, this i did, but it was not enough
    for a spirit to simply know itself as God or parts of God, or children of God,
    or inheritors of the kingdom, or whatever mythology you wanna use.


    As have already explained, knowing something, and experiencing it, are
    two different things, spirit long to know itself experientially just as i did.


    Conceptual awareness was not enough for you, so i devised a plan.
    It is the most extraordinary idea of the entire universe and the most spectacular
    collaboration, i say collaboration because all of you are in it with me. Under the plan,
    you as spirit, would enter the physical universe just created, this is because
    physicality is the only way to know experientially, which you know conceptually.
    It is in fact the reason i created the physical cosmos to begin with, and the system
    of relativity which governs it, and all creation.


    Once in the physical universe, you, my spirit children, could experience what you know of yourself,
    but first you must come to know the opposite.


    To explain this simply, you could not know yourself as tall, unless and until you become aware of short.
    You cannot experience the part of yourself that you call fat, unless you also come to know thin.


    Taken to ultimate logic, you can not experience yourself as what you are, until you have encountered
    what you are not.


    This is the purpose of the theory of relativity and all physical life. it is that by which you are not,
    that you yourself are defined.


    Now in the case of ultimate knowing, in the case of knowing yourself as the creator, you cannot
    experience yourself as creator, unless and until you create.


    And you cannot create yourself, until you un-create yourself. In a sense, you have to first not be,
    in order to be.


    Do you follow? Stay with it.


    Of course there is no way for you to not be who and what you are,
    you simply are that, pure creative spirit; Have been, always and always will be.


    So you did the next best thing. You caused yourself to forget who you really are.
    Upon entering the physical universe, you relinquished your remembrance of yourself.
    This allows you to choose to be who you are, rather than, to wake up in the castle,
    so to speak.

    It is in the act of choosing to be, rather than simply being told that you are,
    a part of God, that you experience yourself as being at total choice, which is what by definition,
    God is.


    Yet how can you have a choice about something over which there is no choice?
    You cannot, not be my offspring no matter how hard you try.


    But you can, forget.


    You are, have always been, and always will be a divine part of the divine hole;
    A member of the body.


    That is why the act of rejoining the whole, a returning to God, is called remembrance.
    You actually choose to remember who you really are.


    Or to join together with the various parts of you to experience the all of you,
    which is to say, the all of me.



    Your job on earth therefore, is not to learn, because you already know,

    but to remember,
    who you are, and to remember who everyone else is.



    That is why a big part of your job is to remind others, that is, to re-mind them so that they can,
    remember, also.

    all the wonderful spiritual teachers have been doing just that.
    it is your sole purpose, that is to say, your soul-purpose.

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  4. #14
    These are really great... Loved the "A carrot, an egg and a cup of coffee..."

  5. #15
    i highly recommend the books Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsch. it's a very good read.

  6. #16
    nindot nga pasumbingay....

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