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    Default Re: Are All “Christians” Christian?


    not all professing christians are real Christians.

  2. #292

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    here we have different ideas on what is true christianity:

    1) being a member of a certain religion (simba lang kung ganahan once a month/year)
    2) faithful member but without the knowledge of the saving grace of god and the gospel
    3) who have personal relationship with Jesus Christ

    In christian history, murag ang no 3 ang matawag nato nga tinuoray nga Christian.

  3. #293

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    @springfield

    mods pwed ra copy paste nalang nako diri or move nalang unta sa insakto nga category?

    https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...l-shocked.html

  4. #294

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    Start it here na lang .

    You can post videos since it carries the same nature of subjects , " CHRISTIANS ".
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  5. #295

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    thanks a lot spring! god bless.

  6. #296

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    @aphiemi
    did i mention about bragging? imo ra ng tomo tomo bai. I never said nga mo brag ka. akong sulti didto nga its not wrong if you are honest to say nga 500k imong sweldo.
    basin dili sila ganahan maminaw anang imong 500K nga sweldo bro, himua nalang kaha na ug 10K para magkasabot na.hhahaha!

  7. #297

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    3) who have personal relationship with Jesus Christ

    In christian history, murag ang no 3 ang matawag nato nga tinuoray nga Christian.
    Can you please expound this particular description of yours about the characteristic of True Christian?

  8. #298

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    Quote Originally Posted by JcBoY View Post
    Can you please expound this particular description of yours about the characteristic of True Christian?
    hello bro, thanks for your question. kasabot ko nga lahi2 ta ug experience sa atong belief. The difference between us is the so called "personal relationship with god". In islam, forgiveness is "insha allah", your good deeds should outweigh your bad deeds. In christianity, we were already forgiven at the cross. We only need to let the holy spirit come in our life by believing and accepting Jesus Christ by heart as our saviour. But of course, we have to understand first what is our real situation before god and why the need for a saviour.

    The time we become a christian a process transformation by the holy spirit will take place and there will be a real changes sa imong kinabuhi especially bearing the fruit of the spirit. Not to brag myself, grabe sad kabati sa akong past, most kinds of foolishness akong naagian that i almost come to the point mag suicide, but by god's grace i am a changed man. mao lang na akong mashare nimo bro that there is something real jud about Christ. Not a superficial belief.

    In Galatians 5:22-24 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
    {23} gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. {24} And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    let me share this link:The Last Supper, The Eucharist

    Jesus' life began in Beth-Lechem...the House of Bread (Matthew 2:1). His first public miracle was at a wedding party in Cana (John 2:2-5), where He turned water into wine in response to a request by His mother. With the miracle of the multiplication of the loaves (Matthew 14:14-20), as Jesus blessed the loaves of bread and distributed them, He prefigured the superabundance of the unique bread that was to be His Eucharist. After teaching and healing the sick and working other wonders in the hills of the Galilee, Jesus had developed a wide following with many disciples. It was at the synagogue of Capernaum, at the time of the feast of Passover, that Jesus began to unfold the nature of His Eucharist to those who were following Him:

    "Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to eternal life, which the Son of man will give to you; for on Him has God the Father set His seal." John 6:27



    When His followers asked about the nature of this eternal food, Jesus replied:

    "I am the bread of life; he who comes to me shall not hunger, and he who believes in me shall never thirst." John 6:35



    When they heard this remark, some of His followers began to murmur among themselves since they knew He was just a carpenter, the son of Joseph. How could this man be the bread of life? Yet Jesus persisted as He explained Himself to them:

    "I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh." John 6:51



    This comment brought outright consternation to a number of those who had followed Him. He was actually telling them that they had to eat His flesh, an unthinkable act. If His words were confusing or misleading them in any way, then He would have corrected their misunderstanding...but He didn't. Instead, He emphasized yet again His meaning when He said:

    "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink His blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him." John 6:53-56



    Many of those who heard Jesus say this couldn't accept it despite the fact that He explained and further clarified His statements three times in attempting to address their lack of understanding and their unwillingness to accept His words. He tried again a fourth time to help them comprehend what He was saying:

    "It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life." John 6:63



    After saying this, many of those who had been following Him chose to stay away. He tried four times to teach them and in the end only a few accepted His teachings. Why didn't they comprehend Jesus, as many still don't comprehend Him after 2,000 years? Probably because they didn't understand that Jesus was the completion of the Passover begun in Egypt over a thousand years earlier. He was the New Covenant, the Promised One - the Messiah - but He didn't fit into the contemporary concept of what the Messiah should be. Passover was commemorated by a meal - a sharing of unleavened bread, lamb and wine - and Jesus had come to give them Himself as the ultimate Bread and Lamb, a meal to be consumed by all who wished to escape from the angel of Death.

    During the ritual of the Passover meal, there were four different cups of blessing consumed along with unleavened bread and lamb. The lamb was chosen after it was slain without breaking any of its bones and then cooked and eaten to renew the bond of communion between God and His chosen people. The blood of this lamb, spread across the lintel of each household, was placed there as a sign to the angel of Death to pass over the house so marked and protect each of the first-born who were members of the household. Jesus came to complete the Passover so that all could pass over from death into eternal life. And just as the Jews at the time of Moses had to eat the unleavened bread and the sacrificial lamb to renew their communion with God, so all were being asked to eat the body and drink the blood of God's new lamb (Jesus) to renew their communion with Him and be marked with the sign of eternal life.

    Jesus instituted His Eucharist at the Passover meal that was to mark His passing through death into Resurrection and everlasting life. It was in these words that Jesus inaugurated His Eucharist:

    "Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, "Take, eat; this is my body." And He took the cup, and when He had given thanks He gave it to them, saying, "Drink of it, all of you; for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." Matthew 26:26-28

    sorry bro but if you would take it so literally,then that would be the thought..
    as the transformation of those bread and wine given at the mass into Jesus' body and blood...
    eating them does not merely mean canibalism but rather symbolizes acceptance of Christ's sacrifice for salvation..

    "I am the bread of life; he who comes to me shall not hunger, and he who believes in me shall never thirst." John 6:35
    Remembrance lage pero nganu mu ingon man ang pari, catechist, nuns, sakristan etc. na literal na na body and blood ni Jesus Christ?

  10. #300

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Panihapon, pero di man ang panihapon ang message ana nga teachings, in fact way labot ang kaon ug time ana. Plus kasaulogan man sad nang ginabuhat sa uban simbahan, Dili man re enactment, Kasaulugan to Commemorate or pagpahinumdum sa Mensahe sa last supper.
    bitaw bro kasaulogan bitaw na kay even kami mag Last Supper pod mi pero not like sa gibuhat sa catholic na every week kay kanang term na "Eurcharist" associated na siya sa Mass. But latong gibuhat ni Kristo dili man to misa.

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