Are All “Christians” Christian?

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question:
do you really understand the bible?

others will only have a glimpse of this post and post another that just assuming that they already understand the poster thoughts. and never read the bible text and assumed that they fully understand the bible itself but what is the key to understand the bible? we need to learn and understand the bible not in the understanding in philosophy or ideas of people, but with the most reliable source... The Bible. other source are facts, history and evidences.

I do hope also that you do since you are very fond of copy and pasting bible verses.

[King]

murag mao jud niy reason nganu wala kaau nakapraktis ang
mga RC Christians ug bible reading..and it has something to do with
upbringing pud..'cause i remember when i was a kid..i never got to read the bible
'cause my parents though catholics just encouraged me to go to church..
i never really had a personal encounter with the bible till i joined
a charismatic group..and unfortunately this is or may also be one of the reasons
why most RC christians(mostly the elderly) rely on the traditions that have been passed from generations to generations..
when i started reading the bible, was then i realized that every part of the holy mass
is based on the bible, remembering what Jesus did.

imagine what has being SKIPPED before baptism.

(Matthew 28:19, 20)
19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

[King]

I do hope also that you do since you are very fond of copy and pasting bible verses.

where do you expect me to copy and paste? since our topic is about the bible. I quoted from the Bible with supportive Bible text.

[Eve's Apple Project]

^^ babtism is only a step bai. We catholics believe on confirmation sad. Dili lang sa babtism mahuman tanan bai. I believe kamo sad.

[heliopause]

@ HELIOPAUSE ...

Sorry to offend if naay ma offend .

wlaa may angay ika offend bro kung magka respetoay lang. okay ra jud kaayo.

Simple kaayo bai . FANATICISM and rooting the purpose of their existence. Mao they strive to come up with their own interpretation and understanding on what gives them leverage even to the point of taking it LITERALLY.

fanaticism to a certain belief is the result of that great faith. wala may problema tingali kung na rooted sa kamatuoran ang pagka fanatic sa usa ka christian. If we study the lives and martyrdom of the first century christians we can say that they were mostly fanatics.

Unsaon lage nimo ang bibliya kung kini imoha lamang pagsabot and not what was intended for? maski memorize pa na nimo from the Book of Genesis all the way to the Revelation , word for word ... kung kini ay pagsabot lamang gani sa personal na level of understanding and not even from your the respective minsters or pastors , samutan di ba ?

we have our own thinking nga kita ang nagbuot. Bati sad tingali kung kita2 lang ang mo interpret sa bible and not asking from the elders. Dili sad ta modawat2 lang kung sa atong pag weigh sa gihatag nga truth dili mo satisfy sa atong pangutana.

Mahug man gud na ang CHURCH SCHOLARS sayop and ang naning sa BIBLIYA kay SAKTO if mao na ang gipasabot nimo. Kahibalo ba ka unsay CHURCH SCHOLARS ? DOCTORS of the CHURCH ? Di na sila mga ReED majors lamang. Hi hi hi .

The Roman church have their own scholars as well as the protestants. Dunay magkasabot ra between these 2 groups duna say dili. Duna sai naning sa bibliya nga igo lang head knowledge without the holy spirit sa iyang kinabuhi duna sad tinud anay and mostly mga naning are the true Christians. Kung imong i research bro ang mga protestant leaders maoy naa sa frontline karon sa Christianity, who aims for a worldwide revival sa church.

The most common and recognized bible used by the RC's is the NEW AMERICAN BIBLE . If by content per content same ta kung whatever version na ang ipagawas or print ninyo , then maybe ... maybe ma reconcile na siya maski in a LITERAL WAY of understanding pa.

sa akoa sad bro, KJV akong gamit. dili ko sa mga newer versions coz as what they call it;s dilluted.

Mao na gitawag ug , barking at the wrong tree. They dont heed or agree with the practices , traditions and beliefs of the RC's mao they rooted for somethign else that they believe is correct without malice but it does not guarantee anything gihapon. Kay ang interpretation is giving more weight man to the advantage of the existence . Mao bitaw daghan kaayo bible versions ni surface out.

no its not. if you belong to a certain group which you believed to be teaching the truth and yet it happen nga nakabasa ka ug butang in which ni conflict ang mga practices, dili diay ka mo question or mangita kung unsay tinuod? magpabilin ka bahalag against na sa imong conscience?

Tell bai unsay CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION na dili form of BUSINESS kay adto ko mo balhin karon dayon hehe .

no its not an excuse if youre really for the truth. Kung against ka with any denomination, you can listen to what Jesus said in the bible. Read it yourself.

Jesus said in John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Are you a king then? Jesus answered, You say that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth hears my voice.

[noy]

imagine what has being SKIPPED before baptism.

(Matthew 28:19, 20)
19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

i learned about the great commission when i joined a catholic chaismatic group..
though the priest would often include this in their homily, in the holy mass..not necessarily
qouted from the book of matthew,but through reminders about sharing the good news
but sometimes or often times the teachings of the priests are being ignored most by the people who attends the mass
'cause a lot of different factors.mine was stated in the earlier post, mine was upbringing,my family was never the church type of people.'cause i believe teachings about the bible and Christianity starts at home.as for me, i was never aware of the true reasons why i needed God..but going back, teachings and religous practice and doctrines are taught in churches...but the reason why we should listen and love the word of God should start from home..i'm speaking only on my behalf ha..but our God is so faithful..He found me.

[heliopause]

i learned about the great commission when i joined a catholic chaismatic group..
though the priest would often include this in their homily, in the holy mass..not necessarily
qouted from the book of matthew,but through reminders about sharing the good news
but sometimes or often times the teachings of the priests are being ignored most by the people who attends the mass
'cause a lot of different factors.mine was stated in the earlier post, mine was upbringing,my family was never the church type of people.'cause i believe teachings about the bible and Christianity starts at home.as for me, i was never aware of the true reasons why i needed God.God is faithful He found me..but going back, teachings and religous practice and doctrines are taught in churches...but the reason why we should listen and love the word of God should start from home..i'm speaking only on my behalf ha..but our God is so faithful..He found me.

Glory to God bro. you know im blessed also of the link you shared before. ikaw ba to? about Louie Giglio's Undescribable tour? very nice. ako nya to ishare imong video link. thanks ayo.

[ondoy]

taasa ug basahon ani uy....but nkasabot ko gamay...dili diayko christian

[heliopause]

@heliopause: actually bai, it is already happening. Changes is happening slowly. We all know that the dominant religion sa pinas (rcatholics) is very lenient. Sa kadako sa catholics bai, lisod jud na macontrol. Even the small orgs sa pinas maglalis man gani, unsa pa kaha ang isa ka dako nga religion like rc. People come & go as they please, we celebrate mass the whole sunday (almost), & even everyday. Even with that effort bai, naa jud nay dili motuo sa church. But we still have true believers sad, same as any other religions.

sakto jud ka bro and you know I am encouraged gani kay bisan sa panahon ug bati nga influence karon duna gihapon mga taw nga concern to know the truth. kita mismo diri sa istorya, though usahay magka exhange ug dili kayo pleasing nga comment but we love to know what is the truth. That is a good sign that our souls are really seeking for answers. Kita nga dunay mashare nga kaayuhan padayon ta. In little ways duna sad makabalo and once a single word of truth atong madungog, it will create a stir sa atong mind and heart to search for deeper truths. In the end, it;s God weve glorified.

[noy]

Glory to God bro. you know im blessed also of the link you shared before. ikaw ba to? about Louie Giglio's Undescribable tour? very nice. ako nya to ishare imong video link. thanks ayo.

amen bro.glory belongs to Jesus alone. wa nako kahinumdum if nagshare ba ko ug link..hehehe
but i'm very familiar anang indescribable nga talk ni louie giglio..i even downloaded that talk..
check pud tong how great is our god nga talk ni louie gihapun...grabeh kau ka blessed pud ato nga talk..check that out bro..