Are All “Christians” Christian?

[noy]

Colossians 3:1-11
Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.Because of these, the wrath of God is coming.You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. 8 But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9 Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.

[ketllac]

So what if gi Compile? Compile is NOT the same as Create.

If mag Compile ko ug Music ni Talpolano it doesnt mean akoy nag create sa kanta.

sakto ka pero sayop gihapon...hahahhaa


technically ang nag buhat sa libro as author including the church fathers that played major role sa holy tradition nga gi compile in later generation were the same lineage...they were both under the same church..still a part of Roman Catholicism..

so applying your analogy " ang nag buhat ug libro ug nag compile are the same lineage...take note lineage siodenz...

Please do your homework..

[ketllac]

What is written in the Bible regarding those who places "tradition" above the commandments of God

Mathew 15:1-3
Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:8

For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mark 7:8

And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Mark 7:9

Indulgences or Salvation by wallet?
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
1 Peter 1:18

mura jud kag nakasabot ana imo gi qoute...ang gi mean ana dili holy tradition nga linya sa teaching ni Christ...for gods sake kanang holy tradition mao nay commandment ni Christ nga gisunod sa mga early christians...

explainan ta ka ha..sa unang panahon daghan ayo influences nga cultura so daghan sad traditions, foreign thinking and philosophy ang gi dala ngadto sa Jerusalem from different cultures like greek ang roman..pero si Christ niignon nga beware sa mga tradition nga maka transgress sa commandment of God gikan pa ni moses..

bai tambag nako nimo..learn the bible more..tan -awa ang aspeto sa bible nga it is also a historical book. kung gamiton nimo na nga perspective I am sure mahayagan ka sa hermeneutics pa na Historical/cultural analysis...put yourself sa time ni Jesus, ilaha customs and tradition...dili ka maka learn ug bible kung sa bible ra sad ka mag based...bible alone wont stand, you need a church to teach you kay sila konektado (lineage) up to the time of Jesus..

use the principle here--- Biblical hermeneutics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[ethzneuron]

On topic/title, I believe that not all Christians are true Christians because they don't act like one.

[Kenshiro]

mura jud kag nakasabot ana imo gi qoute...ang gi mean ana dili holy tradition nga linya sa teaching ni Christ...for gods sake kanang holy tradition mao nay commandment ni Christ nga gisunod sa mga early christians...

explainan ta ka ha..sa unang panahon daghan ayo influences nga cultura so daghan sad traditions, foreign thinking and philosophy ang gi dala ngadto sa Jerusalem from different cultures like greek ang roman..pero si Christ niignon nga beware sa mga tradition nga maka transgress sa commandment of God gikan pa ni moses..

bai tambag nako nimo..learn the bible more..tan -awa ang aspeto sa bible nga it is also a historical book. kung gamiton nimo na nga perspective I am sure mahayagan ka sa hermeneutics pa na Historical/cultural analysis...put yourself sa time ni Jesus, ilaha customs and tradition...dili ka maka learn ug bible kung sa bible ra sad ka mag based...bible alone wont stand, you need a church to teach you kay sila konektado (lineage) up to the time of Jesus..

use the principle here--- Biblical hermeneutics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

-Its not about culture of countries it is about your traditions that transgress the Biblical Doctrine.
You seemed to avoid biblical doctrines and use lame excuses.

Calling the Priests "Father" is forbidden

FACT: Catholics are taught to call their priest, "Father", as a religious title of respect. Christians in the first century never called their leaders, "father". This first happened hundreds of years later.

Question #1: Does Jesus approve of calling the leaders of the church, "Father"?

Answer: Matthew 23:9
"Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. Matthew 23:9

Praying repetitive words using Rosary beads is forbidden.

FACT: Catholics pray repetitive words with Rosary Beads that were first invented in 1090 AD, by "Peter the Hermit" and made popular by St. Dominic in 1208 AD. Catholics believe that Mary appeared to St. Dominic in 1208 AD, at the church of Prouille and revealed the Rosary Beads to him. From this time, Catholics prayed 15 sets of 10 consecutive "hail Marys" in a row (150 times), in the Rosary. However, in 2003 AD, Pope John Paul added a new set of Mysteries, so now it is 20 sets of 10 "Hail Marys", (200 times in the Rosary, in total.) Catholics will vainly appeal to Psalm 136 that alternates the same phrase 26 times with 26 different blessings God gives us. It is not 26 in a row as with the rosary! This is also a song, not a prayer. Revelation 4:8 has "angels singing" not "men praying".

Historical note: Roman Catholics borrowed the idea of praying with beads from the pagan religions who were already using them hundreds of years before: In 456 AD, Hindus are thought to have introduced the concept of praying with beads to the world. The earliest reference to a rosary (boberkhas) is in their "Jain Canon" (456 AD) These boberkhas had various numbers of beads 6,9,12,18,36 (any sub-multiple of 10 Islam (610 AD) uses a rosary of 99 beads, one for each of the names of God. Buddhists have 108 prayer beads on the string. The Rosary is of pagan origin and no Christian prior to 1000 AD used beads to pray.

Did Jesus forbid repetitive prayer using Rosary Beads?

Answer: Matthew 6:7

"And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words. Matthew 6:7

Your RC fits perfectly with the biblical definition of blasphemy

1. Claiming the power to forgive sins)Priestly Confessions

The Jews understood blasphemy well, and because they did not accept Jesus as the Son of God or Messiah, they accused Him of blaspheming. In Mark 2:6-11 and Luke 5:18-26, we read the story of the paralytic man who came to Jesus through a hole in the roof to be healed.

The first thing Jesus said to Him was "Son, thy sins be forgiven thee." Jesus must have known that that was the man's deepest desire. Perhaps his illness was to do with some sin in his life, or perhaps he was just very concerned about being accepted by God. Jesus read the man's heart, and forgave him his sins before he did anything else.

When the scribes sitting around heard him forgive this man's sins, they reasoned in their hearts, "Why does this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?" Jesus knew their thoughts and answered them, declaring His power to forgive sins, "...that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,) "I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed and go thy way into thine house" (Mark 2:10-11 emphasis added).

In this story we see the first definition of blasphemy—claiming the power to forgive sins. The Jews did not believe Jesus had the power of God, but Jesus was not blaspheming because He really did have power to forgive sins.

2. Claiming to be God

In 1895 an article from the Catholic National said this:
"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, Himself, hidden under the veil of flesh.iii"

In 1512 Christopher Marcellus said this to Pope Julius II:
Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth (emphasis added).vi


In John 5:18, we read about another reason the Jews wanted to kill Jesus for blasphemy. "Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God." John 8:58-59 tells us this:

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him.
Later in John 10:30, Jesus declares "I and my Father are one." In verse 31, we read that the Jews "took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, 'Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those words do ye stone me?' The Jews answered him, saying, 'For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God (emphasis added).'"

Here we see the second definition of blasphemy—claiming to be God. Jesus again had not blasphemed when He said He was one with the Father, for Jesus is God. But the Jews certainly thought Christ was blaspheming, and took violent action in their misguided zeal for Jehovah. While thinking they were protecting God's honor, they were rejecting His own Son.


I don't have any problem on what you believe or not if you believe that tradition has higher authority over the Bible then fine we do not force you to withdraw your belief.

You don't have the right to say that we do not understand the Bible because we base our doctrines and teachings purely in the Bible and you do not have any proofs that our teachings are unbiblical.
While you rarely use the Bible and even your teachings in the Bible are loosely or even contradicts the biblical doctrine.

[Crinkles11]

Aw sulbad naman diay ni, so pwd na maclose ang thread.

[heliopause]

Absolutely NO. Daghan nagclaim nga christians but during sundays tua sa buwangan mag praise and worship!

[JcBoY]

Absolutely NO. Daghan nagclaim nga christians but during sundays tua sa buwangan mag praise and worship!

Unya unsaon man na nimo bro? Adto na lang na ninyo husayon sa Adlaw sa Hukom para di na mo mag-lalis kinsay tinuod tawgon ug Christian. Tuo man kaha mo ug Ginoo ug Adlaw sa Hukom?

[heliopause]

Unya unsaon man na nimo bro? Adto na lang na ninyo husayon sa Adlaw sa Hukom para di na mo mag-lalis kinsay tinuod tawgon ug Christian. Tuo man kaha mo ug Ginoo ug Adlaw sa Hukom?

Wala koy mahimo ana bro but only to share the gospel of Jesus Christ. Bisan asa man akong nakita nga kung dili jud tinuoray imong relasyon sa Ginoo it would make no sense ang imong pagtuo. Same with some of my officemates nga muslims nga mag salah 5 times a day and just after that mamakak dayon. Parehas ra gihapon sa uban christians nga magsimba nya lahi diay ug tumong kay tungod lang sa uyab para makadate after simba. which is very true.

[heliopause]

Unya unsaon man na nimo bro? Adto na lang na ninyo husayon sa Adlaw sa Hukom para di na mo mag-lalis kinsay tinuod tawgon ug Christian. Tuo man kaha mo ug Ginoo ug Adlaw sa Hukom?

sa islam bro duna bay judgment sa inyong binuhatan? just want to know.