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    so to understand a true Christians from the rest, should be in line with the apostolic succession commonly called "holy tradition"...that so called "activities" from the apostolic succession and Christ ministries were then recorded and it became a bible..however both are having the same authority in terms of christian doctrine..the differences are; bible cannot teach without the church..now kinsa ma nang church..bisan kinsa lang ba maka claim as long as can read and write..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    so to understand a true Christians from the rest, should be in line with the apostolic succession commonly called "holy tradition"...that so called "activities" from the apostolic succession and Christ ministries were then recorded and it became a bible..however both are having the same authority in terms of christian doctrine..the differences are bible cannot teach without the church..now kinsa ma nang church..bisan kinsa lang ba maka claim as long as can read and write..?
    Amen to that Bradex... kini si king(TS) og kuha-an ni og BIBLE deli ni makalakaw og tarong (lame)

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    @ aphime: haha, kalingaw ba ani. naa diay ni diri, mao diay ning giingon ni bai King.. subscribe ko be.

    So sa imong gi example bai, (nga continuation ra unta ni sa pikas thread of which nindot ta nga didto ka nitubag ani, wehehe)you are insinuating nga Catholics are fake christians kay wa "daw" sila nifollow sa bible. how can that be? isn't that too self serving sa inyong denomination kay you are spreading a word which is IMO not true (& a sign of ignorance about the catholics) just to entice other catholics (with weak faith) while nobody from the Roman church is claiming your group is wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aphiemi View Post
    to have different views on certain things is fine, naa gud tay atong baroganan BUT on ESSENTIAL matters of the faith dapat there is UNITY.
    then how can a practice of one Christian Denomination/sect (Roman Catholicism) be wrong when in fact you also mentioned about GRAY-areas which we need to use Common sense. Now does that make sense to you? Di ba na ignorance about the R catholic faith?

    Holy Spirit Interactive Youth: Bible Geek: Do Catholics Worship Idols?

    catholics are easy targets. sa kadako, sa kadaghan sa membro dali jud kaayo ka mawagtang sa groupo. i was there once (nasaag sa pagtoo), tried other christian denomination as well. sa saglit nakong pag-apil sa laing grupo, i realized nga parehas ra tanan. pero here's what i have understand : mura bag mga karnero bai, sa kadaghan naa juy masaag nga pipila, & other christian denomination will catch kadtong mga nasaag. then kadtong mga nahisaag moclaim dayon nga sayop ang pag-tuo sa catholics tongod wa sila matagad or wa nila nakita ang ilang gipangita (when in fact all they need to do is ask the church). toink.

    the Fake Christians: naay daghan, naa sa Rcatholic, ug naa say daghan sa mga protestante.
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    Sad to say, these are slowly dying this days.

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    ^when you read the papers.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    so to understand a true Christians from the rest, should be in line with the apostolic succession commonly called "holy tradition"...that so called "activities" from the apostolic succession and Christ ministries were then recorded and it became a bible..however both are having the same authority in terms of christian doctrine..the differences are; bible cannot teach without the church..now kinsa ma nang church..bisan kinsa lang ba maka claim as long as can read and write..?
    Its not who made the Bible and who has higher authority over it.
    its what is being contradicted in the bible.
    Is traditions like indulgences(salvation by wallet), priestly confession(Claiming to have the power to forgive sins), and blind obedience(Jesuit Doctrine) is condemned by the Bible.

    Who would think to be an authority above the Bible and even the very Law of God is the exact attitude of the RCC.

    And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
    Daniel 7:25
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    Christian by inheritance, not necessarily by practice...like my bro for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    yup bible is part of it...pero kung mo claim ka nga ang Christianity gikan sa bible mao nay dakong sayop...kay nag una ang apostolic succession kaysa sa libro..
    Christianity in a sense started sa mga apostle when they followed Christ. Ang Content sa Bibliya nabuhat while nagsunod sunod silang Kristo naminaw sa iyang sangyaw. Although ang uban nahisulat after na si Kristo namatay pero ang message is gikan ghapon sa kapanahunan ni Kristo. Ang Bibliya nga Libro na compile much later na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    so to understand a true Christians from the rest, should be in line with the apostolic succession commonly called "holy tradition"...that so called "activities" from the apostolic succession and Christ ministries were then recorded and it became a bible..however both are having the same authority in terms of christian doctrine..the differences are; bible cannot teach without the church..now kinsa ma nang church..bisan kinsa lang ba maka claim as long as can read and write..?
    How about if a teaching from the Holy tradition is Not mentioned in the Bible. Which to follow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    Christian by inheritance, not necessarily by practice...like my bro for example.
    We should not talk about a Belief based on what its followers are doing. You of all people should know that

    Question the Belief Not the Believers.

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