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  1. #91

    Default Re: Saudi Wants 200,000 Hectares Of PH Ricefield


    maayo ning hinuktukan pag-ayo sa mga ahensya sa atong gobyierno tungod kay na-a ni epekto nga pwede maka pa asenso o maka patidlom sa pala-um sa atong mga mag-uuma ug tag-iyag kayuta-an...basi sa ako nabasahan pipila na ka tuig ang nakalabay ang averaged nga pangidaron sa atong mga mag-uuma nagkadako na..usa kini katima-ilhan nga nawad-an ug kadasig ang atong mga batan-on sa rural areas to go into farming kay mangimpleyo nalang sila sa mga kalungsuran o sa mga dakbayan tungod kay minos ug kita ang pag-uma hilabi na kung wala kay igong kahimanan ug kwarta para sa abono...

  2. #92

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitwit View Post
    Let's just see how this go, if they push this through and the prices go on the roof and you'll hear people around you whinging and ranting with the rice prices then sure you can keep being optimistic. Do you have any clue how much a kilo of basmati rice? And if this works, farmers will make a good dough out of this agreement don't you think other farmers from other states wouldn't want to do the same? Everyone will be after of the profit and they will not think of what's going to happen with the others if all they care about is profit. How much is a kilo of rice now? Id really bet you can expect dollar prices once this agreement goes through and when that happens, there will be no turning back for a long time and were talking about 220k hectares of land, think of the populAtion of the rice eaters in Phil and then do the math.
    well unfortunately they haven't been doing the math! mao na wala sila kasabot. These Arab investors are eyeing on the Philippines because our lands are CHEAP!!!! You think they will venture to a business where in they won't get much of their money?

    unya, nag tuo siguro ni sila nga sayon ra ang farming techniques for basmati rice. will they use broadcasting method? is it transplanting? or are they going to use drumseeder? wa pay labot ang land preparation stage ug ang post harvest equipment nga gamitunon. lain lain nga klase sa rice lahi lahi sad ang requirements for rice mill facilities.

    And another question, sila ang mo tanom ani or kita? Hinumdumi nga wala bayay mo kaon ug basmati rice sa atoa.

    For me, best if our farmers will plant and export these rice rather than abangan ra. Kaluoy sa akong mga mag uuma nga silingan, sinsilyo ray ilang ma kwarta.

    These Arab investors knows that Basmati rice is grown in Pakistan and India because of its soil quality and weather condition. So ngano ari man sa Pinas sila mo "replicate" ug basmati variety? ngano dili nalang ma derekta didto? Im sure naay rason ngano wala na sila didto ni duol ug diri na hinuon sa atoa. goodluck nalang nila!
    Last edited by high_heels; 05-15-2012 at 07:38 PM.

  3. #93

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeojin View Post
    As said in the article, theres no question that basmati rice is sought worldwide but currently we are still testing and evaluating basmati rice for production. so lets not count our chicken before they hatch lol. True basmati rice only grows in India and Pakistan, that is a sad reality for us. there are few countries had tried and failed. We cant even produce in quantities SE rice varieties compared to our neighbors due to bad soil composition, climate, weather etc, what more producing a much exotic basmati rice . Im not so sure about this basmati varieties, its still be subjected to testing, patent? and whether saudi arabian will prefer its taste and smell.

    and about farmer's land.. lets face its either they are only renting the land from their landlords which is really a common thing; or their land are too small to be rented. as said in the article.


    this could be bad to us if considering they will rent existing farm which had been propagated/cater for local consumption. Unless they make use of idle rain-fed government land then it will be good for export without hurting local production and consumption. The good news is.. this is a joint project of the government and SA company.. i doubt the government will make decision that will be disadvantageous to our people.
    very very true!!!

  4. #94

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    and since we are on the discussion of rice...update ko nalang mo tanan sa kadaghan ug ka libog na mga plano sa Department of Agriculture.



    DA moving to fast-track rice deal with Cambodia


    THE PHILIPPINES is seeking to facilitate a rice supply deal with Cambodia by stepping up efforts to secure signing authorities for both countries.


    "Secretary [Proceso J.] Alcala had written to the DFA (Department of Foreign Affairs) to request them to coordinate with the Cambodian government to help the Cambodian ambassador to the Philippines secure his own authority to sign the agreement in behalf of the Kingdom of Cambodia," Agriculture Undersecretary Emerson U. Palad said in a telephone interview yesterday.

    Mr. Palad added that Mr. Alcala had similarly requested Malacaņang for authority to sign the agreement on behalf of the Philippines.

    "This is similar to what we did in our rice deals with Vietnam and Thailand. As far as I know, the request is still pending with Malacaņang," he said.

    DFA and Palace officials were not immediately available for comment.

    Dante S. Delima, Agriculture assistant secretary and coordinator of the National Rice Program, said the deal would be for either three or five years, with Cambodia guaranteeing 100,000 metric tons (MT) of rice annually.

    "As with our other rice supply agreements, the deal with Cambodia will be on a needs basis. It just guarantees that Cambodia will prioritize us should we need to import rice and will be able to provide us with up to this specified volume," Mr. Delima explained in a text message.

    The Agriculture department in April said it hoped to reach the rice supply deal with Cambodia, adding to existing agreements with Vietnam and Thailand, as the government was looking to source 120,000 MT of this year’s total rice import volume of 500,000 MT via state-to-state deals.

    The National Food Authority (NFA) imports rice to ensure adequate stocks, especially for the lean months of July to September.

    "Secretary Alcala wants us to wait for the Cambodia MoU (memorandum of understanding) to be signed before we send out letters to countries for the rice import deals," said NFA Administrator Angelito T. Banayo in a separate text message. "But we need the imports deal finalized immediately, as the lean months are coming."

    He said the rice imports should arrive no later than the end of June. Mr. Banayo earlier said that to give countries ample time to secure the volume, rice imports deals must be finalized by this month. -- Bettina Faye V. Roc

    From: DA moving to fast-track rice deal with Cambodia | BusinessWorld Online Edition

  5. #95

    Default Re: Saudi Wants 200,000 Hectares Of PH Ricefield

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart.Bartillo View Post
    the rice won't go to us. It's for Saudi Arabia.
    Wala may dautan kung mo-export ta ug rice sa Saudi Arabia kay ang exchange kay more foreign money na ilang ibayad sa ato na magamit nato in other purposes.

  6. #96

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph20102011 View Post
    Wala may dautan kung mo-export ta ug rice sa Saudi Arabia kay ang exchange kay more foreign money na ilang ibayad sa ato na magamit nato in other purposes.
    in all truth, layo pa kaayo ni sa tinuod! kung buot huna hunaon mag "mugna" pa gani ang PhilRice ug Basmati rice varieties nga adaptable sa atong weather and soil condition. As what I said, good luck nalang nila!

    kataw-an ko nalang ni daan. The experimentation of Basmati rice is not as simple as experimenting with monggos seeds in your second year biology class.

  7. #97

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    forget china, go saudi arabia!

  8. #98

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalditohoN View Post
    forget china, go saudi arabia!
    Pero ang most reliable na ally sa Pilipinas, wala nilang duha. Ang reliable ally nato mao ang United States.

  9. #99

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    Quote Originally Posted by high_heels View Post
    our local farmers can't even supply the rice requirement of our own population what more leasing a vast rice farm for another countrys consumption. I doubt if this will materialize.

    As far as I know the Philippines is STILL importing rice from other countries because we cannot supply our own demand plus our complicated weather condition and the floodings have been the major issues of our farmers. Let's face it, we cannot feed 100 million filipinos with our own rice farms. We depend on countries like Pakistan, Vietnam, Thailand and including Cambodia where a pilot shipment of 50 M/T of rice is shipped for this year.
    we have more than enough rice produced. nasayang ra gani ang ubang naharvest sa ubang warehouses na gipangtago kay nabulok ra. ilaga ra ang nalipay ato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by high_heels View Post
    well unfortunately they haven't been doing the math! mao na wala sila kasabot. These Arab investors are eyeing on the Philippines because our lands are CHEAP!!!! You think they will venture to a business where in they won't get much of their money?

    unya, nag tuo siguro ni sila nga sayon ra ang farming techniques for basmati rice. will they use broadcasting method? is it transplanting? or are they going to use drumseeder? wa pay labot ang land preparation stage ug ang post harvest equipment nga gamitunon. lain lain nga klase sa rice lahi lahi sad ang requirements for rice mill facilities.

    And another question, sila ang mo tanom ani or kita? Hinumdumi nga wala bayay mo kaon ug basmati rice sa atoa.

    For me, best if our farmers will plant and export these rice rather than abangan ra. Kaluoy sa akong mga mag uuma nga silingan, sinsilyo ray ilang ma kwarta.

    These Arab investors knows that Basmati rice is grown in Pakistan and India because of its soil quality and weather condition. So ngano ari man sa Pinas sila mo "replicate" ug basmati variety? ngano dili nalang ma derekta didto? Im sure naay rason ngano wala na sila didto ni duol ug diri na hinuon sa atoa. goodluck nalang nila!
    Intawn oi, ngano dli man ta mo give chance Ani nga opportunity instead magcge protesta. India's relations, including investments and other economic ventures with Saudi Arabia have been affected by the Saudi's close ties with Pakistan. Saudi Arabia supported Pakistan's stance on the Kashmir conflict and during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971.

    But Saudi trade with Pakistan is not big compared with India, India's current exports to Saudi Arabia stand at USD 2.6 billion, a huge portion for this is--- Basmati rice.

    So if you're asking why Saudi wishes to trade with the Philippines instead of India? It's not about using our lands because we offer it cheap ( India has cheaper landlease compared to RP). It's the Kashmir conflict.
    So imagine transferring 2 Billion USD to RP instead of India?

    BBC NEWS | South Asia | Saudi king on rare visit to India


    Quote Originally Posted by high_heels View Post
    in all truth, layo pa kaayo ni sa tinuod! kung buot huna hunaon mag "mugna" pa gani ang PhilRice ug Basmati rice varieties nga adaptable sa atong weather and soil condition. As what I said, good luck nalang nila!

    kataw-an ko nalang ni daan. The experimentation of Basmati rice is not as simple as experimenting with monggos seeds in your second year biology class.

    You were questioning my facts. What's the connection with Genetic botany with this article, then you answered your own question.

    For the nth time, and for phrasing out loud, THIS IS THE REASON WHY TECHNICAL TEAMS/ GENETICISTS /RESEARCHERS FROM DA ARE STUDYING THE VARIETY. Conditions like;

    1) Alleles and gene matrice type to increase Basmati preponderance.
    2) fungal resistance.
    3) Soil Ph reactivity.
    4) Weather and Humidity.
    5) Success of crossbreeding evolved Basmati.

    If one of these 5 fails, then no big thingy. We cancel the deal- No lease and No agreement with Saudi. Why give such a fuss?

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