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    Default Re: Saudi Wants 200,000 Hectares Of PH Ricefield


    Quote Originally Posted by bleedingboi View Post
    @ High heels - Can't argue with you bro. I'm not a pessimist. I have studied Genetic botany, and I own a farm, so I definitely know how this idea works and helps. So chillax.
    good that you studied "genetic botany" bro, but how is that "exactly" connected to rice farm lease? Technical application of planting is not a concern, it's the implications of such lease that will obviously topple down our very own agricultural needs and benefits.

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    How is any of your opinions connected to rice farm lease high_heels when you are not the owner of those lands? No matter how many times you repeat "our land" the land will never belong to you unless you buy it. So my suggestion to you if you really don't want these lands leased to the Arabs, you should buy the land from the farmers then you can do whatever the hell you want with it. Until such time, I'm sure the farmers would appreciate it if you just keep quiet and not tell them what to do with their land...

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    Quote Originally Posted by monroy View Post
    Are you sure you understand how markets work? You think doubling, even tripling our production of rice will have an impact on the international price of rice? High heels.. you be ignorant

    Secondly, I will continue to hammer into your head the issue about land and property rights because these are rights guaranteed under the constitution. The alternative is lame forum warriors like you telling others what they should be doing with their land. If that's the case, then I should also have the right to tell you what to do with your house, like if I want it demolished for the good of the country then I should be able to. Does that sound fair to you?

    At the end of the day: Land doesn't belong to you so your opinion doesn't matter. Neither does mine, but I'm not the one telling farmers what they should be doing for their own good as that would be sanctimonious. =)
    then you are narrow minded then! what makes you so sure that this pushes through? Perhaps you are ignorant on the current agricultural concerns of our country that you can easily agree to a long term land lease. Which by the way, will only make us look stupid as a rice growing country. Do we grow the rice in this proposal? No! What the proposal means is, they will grow their rice into our VERY OWN LAND. Sounds stupid right? And I would say that it is as stupid as your reasons...
    Last edited by high_heels; 05-14-2012 at 11:00 AM.

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    if we lease our lands to them, the money generated from that lease is then used to import rice, since all the produce of that land would go directly to saudi, its just like selling the hen to buy eggs.. hhhmm something's really wrong here.

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    @ high_heels It doesn't matter what you or I think. If you call following the laws and respecting property rights narrow minded, then you got a lot of growing up to do. You need to separate what you think is best for the farmers, from their rights as owners to do what they want with the land. I never said I'm sure if this pushes through, the only people who can be sure are the owners.

    And look the issue of rice prices is completely separate from this issue. As free people with individual rights, we aren't obligated to do what is best for our country in exercising our rights. If the farmers wanna raise pigs in that farm instead of grow rice, wala kai mahimo ana bro.. kai ngano.. ilaha man ang yuta dili man imo.

    @bad_juju: There's nothing wrong there. The owners decide whether they want chickens or eggs, not you or me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monroy View Post
    How is any of your opinions connected to rice farm lease high_heels when you are not the owner of those lands? No matter how many times you repeat "our land" the land will never belong to you unless you buy it. So my suggestion to you if you really don't want these lands leased to the Arabs, you should buy the land from the farmers then you can do whatever the hell you want with it. Until such time, I'm sure the farmers would appreciate it if you just keep quiet and not tell them what to do with their land...
    i will not keep quiet for you! i will shut my mouth if someone here can actually prove to me the greater advantage of "contract farming" compared to nurturing our very own needs in the agricultural sector. Get back to me with your validation!

    why should i buy these lands from the farmers? its their land and they wouldnt be farmers if they just preferred to be land lords sitting their ass off and receiving peanuts for rent. Dugh! as what the previous poster here said "you are gullible"

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    Default Re: Saudi Wants 200,000 Hectares Of PH Ricefield

    nindot unta pero sa ingon na 200,000? hectare pa jud its like occupying the whole d*mn city grabe murag dakong binuang paminawn

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_juju View Post
    if we lease our lands to them, the money generated from that lease is then used to import rice, since all the produce of that land would go directly to saudi, its just like selling the hen to buy eggs.. hhhmm something's really wrong here.
    i totally agree!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by high_heels View Post
    i will not keep quiet for you! i will shut my mouth if someone here can actually prove to me the greater advantage of "contract farming" compared to nurturing our very own needs in the agricultural sector. Get back to me with your validation!

    why should i buy these lands from the farmers? its their land and they wouldnt be farmers if they just preferred to be land lords sitting their ass off and receiving peanuts for rent. Dugh! as what the previous poster here said "you are gullible"
    Run your mouth all you want it won't change the fact that the land isn't yours. So in the end, wala gihapon kai mahimo. LOL na lang... you can call them farmers or landowners, whatever the case they are the owners not you

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    Quote Originally Posted by monroy View Post
    Run your mouth all you want it won't change the fact that the land isn't yours. So in the end, wala gihapon kai mahimo. LOL na lang... you can call them farmers or landowners, whatever the case they are the owners not you
    hahahahaha...so with that...mag real estate broker nalang ko and akoang ipa abang sa tanang taga lain nasud ang yuta nga akong natawhan. bahala ni si kesehuda ug kesehudo kung unsaon nila akong yuta ug himuon nila akong mga silingan ug trabahador sa bugas nga di ma punta sa akong mga plato.

    sabta sa daan dodong ang concept sa contract farming para kasabot ka! para di sad ka ma ingnan ug "gullible" sabot ka? lol!

    or better yet, do your research about our rice industry and maybe you will be enlightened! or if not, hopeless case na gyud diay ka...
    Last edited by high_heels; 05-14-2012 at 11:06 AM.

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