Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Miguel Angel Cotto May 5,2012

[lhorenzoo]

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i still think floyd has less power, only he has great timing and when he connects ,clean kaayo mao nay makapa knock out sa kontra niya before. he showed in this fight he can go toe to toe , but would be great to see if he can go toe to toe with the pacman. pagkatilwa gani ni mosley sa kumo ni pacquiao nga wa makita ,hagsa gani siya, itys the punches that you dont see hurts the most. og matiningan si floyd sa invisible nga kumo ni manny ambot kaha. but manny must be wary also of floyds clean punch connections.really need to see the two of them fight .

[estuans]

maigo man si floyd nga murag may pag ka hinay og yaya ang attack ni cotto. Samot na cguro og si pacquiao mo attacki labi natong 8 to 11 combo mayg dili ma buang si floyd ana og depensa perting lihaya cguro abot pikas corner.

[Bongoton]

i still think floyd has less power, only he has great timing and when he connects ,clean kaayo mao nay makapa knock out sa kontra niya before. he showed in this fight he can go toe to toe , but would be great to see if he can go toe to toe with the pacman. pagkatilwa gani ni mosley sa kumo ni pacquiao nga wa makita ,hagsa gani siya, itys the punches that you dont see hurts the most. og matiningan si floyd sa invisible nga kumo ni manny ambot kaha. but manny must be wary also of floyds clean punch connections.really need to see the two of them fight .

aw di gyud nuon ingon ana ka kusog iya kumo, pero maka KO gihapon.. ang iya lang problema kay di siya mo resgo ug knockout bisan puede unta. gubaon man sad gud na siya ug kamot.
morag di gyud ta kita makig toe to toe si Floyd ni Manny kay it does not seem he likes to fight him at all. Besides he better box and be on his toes against Pacquiao because that's his only chance of winning. Going toe to toe with Manny is gonna get him into a LOT of trouble

[trollolol]

I agree that the jab is a very effective punch if anybody wants to be effective vs. Mayweather, but let's not forget that Pacquiao is a southpaw, and Floyd is vulnerable to left hands (Judah and Corley fights come to mind). His main weapons would be his right hook, lead left hand (almost like a jab) and of course his patented left straight. Pacquiao is a dyamic puncher, and if Floyd lays on the ropes like he did in the Cotto fight, he wouldn't only get a bloody nose, that's for sure.

Basing how Pacquiao would fare against Mayweather by his fight against Marquez is flawed. Marquez and Mayweather are both master counter punchers but are also night and day when it comes to style. Floyd does not have Marquez beauty of combination punching and the guts to fight fire with fire. Marquez was so effective against Pacquiao because he takes risks, something Mayweather doesn't do. Floyd uses his athleticism and superb defense to find holes in his opponents, but he's mostly pot shotting when countering. He does not put his punches together that much because if he does, chances are he will be open himself for a counter punch.

Have you seen Floyd throw the right hook that hit Cotto's left jaw, and sometimes his gloves? It looks like it took 48 hours to get there. Floyd's reflexes are great, and he's so quick in evading a punch and deliver a punch of his own, but if you talk about putting punches together, he seems rather slow compared to Pacquiao. I guess that's why some people are saying Manny is faster than Floyd. I think Floyd is quick, Manny is fast.

Again we're only here to speculate, and this is not what boxing is all about. That's why they FIGHT THE FIGHTS! Experts can be rendered stupid after a fight predicting a totally different outcome. A prime example is Mayweather-Cotto, when almost everyone thinks its gonna be an easy night for Floyd. WE WERE WRONG, ABSOLUTELY WRONG.

Cotto forced Mayweather to fight hard. It wasn’t a “choice” that Floyd made “for the fans.” -- Doug Fischer

LOL! AMEN !!

Mayweather had a better showing against an undrained Cotto than Manny did against old man midget Marquez. Nobody was crying robbery at the end.

Zab sets his power punches with exceptional jabs. How does Manny set up his offense against Mayweather? Please don't say jab. His right hand is useless on its own. Mayweather humiliated Corley bad 8 years ago. Floyd figured both out and the only way you can say it was a good fight was if you only watched the highlights. They were both lopsided wins for Mayweather.

Majority of Marquez' hits that found their mark against Pac were jabs and right straights and not those combinations you talk about. Mayweather with his 72 reach advantage will have no trouble hitting his target all night long. When you say Mayweather doesn't take risks you are very wrong. Risk taking is the very essence of being a counter puncher. Baiting a punch, punishing a whiff, and timing your punches with your opponents all take massive balls.

How does Manny react to getting tagged? I've seen Manny get shut down easily more than once. Pac vs Morales 1 and against Marquez 2 and 3 prove that Pac is uncomfortable and reluctant when he starts feeling leather in his face.

I still don't get how Manny is supposedly faster than Floyd. The fastest opponent Manny has ever faced is Mosley. The rest were slow pokes. Mayweather made Judah, Corley, and Mosley look like multicabs racing a ferrari. And in boxing speed does not guarantee success because timing is still everything. Slow boxers with great timing (hopkins for example) will have more success than mere speedsters (Camacho). Floyd has better timing than Pac that much is understood.

True we've never seen Floyd face a pressure fighter on Pac's level. But we have seen how Pac has fared against a counter puncher who by the way was way past his prime and always the smaller man.

[æRLO]

Mayweather had a better showing against an undrained Cotto than Manny did against old man midget Marquez. Nobody was crying robbery at the end.

Zab sets his power punches with exceptional jabs. How does Manny set up his offense against Mayweather? Please don't say jab. His right hand is useless on its own. Mayweather humiliated Corley bad 8 years ago. Floyd figured both out and the only way you can say it was a good fight was if you only watched the highlights. They were both lopsided wins for Mayweather.

Majority of Marquez' hits that found their mark against Pac were jabs and right straights and not those combinations you talk about. Mayweather with his 72 reach advantage will have no trouble hitting his target all night long. When you say Mayweather doesn't take risks you are very wrong. Risk taking is the very essence of being a counter puncher. Baiting a punch, punishing a whiff, and timing your punches with your opponents all take massive balls.

How does Manny react to getting tagged? I've seen Manny get shut down easily more than once. Pac vs Morales 1 and against Marquez 2 and 3 prove that Pac is uncomfortable and reluctant when he starts feeling leather in his face.

I still don't get how Manny is supposedly faster than Floyd. The fastest opponent Manny has ever faced is Mosley. The rest were slow pokes. Mayweather made Judah, Corley, and Mosley look like multicabs racing a ferrari. And in boxing speed does not guarantee success because timing is still everything. Slow boxers with great timing (hopkins for example) will have more success than mere speedsters (Camacho). Floyd has better timing than Pac that much is understood.

True we've never seen Floyd face a pressure fighter on Pac's level. But we have seen how Pac has fared against a counter puncher who by the way was way past his prime and always the smaller man.

Pac's right is useless? maybe a decade ago. Hatton got rocked by his right (KD in one instance), Cotto was punished by his right (one KD caused by right). If you are going to use that JMM argument then let's make the argument that Pacquiao destroyed Cotto, and Mayweather did not. Again, Marquez did not win that fight. Several times he's a b**** about losing and throws a fit, making everything a controversy. There is a major difference between Money and his style of counterpunching, that is Mayweather pushes the fight often. Marquez is a PURE counterpuncher. Several of Pac's opponents have attested, when fighting Pacquiao, there is always the issue of phantom punches, where they get hit and they didn't see it coming. I don't know how Pacquiao'speed is in question here... It is widely accepted that he has one the fastest hands in the sport. Whether those hands will nullify Mayweather's defense, we don't know.

[bahiista]

Freddie Roach is the brain, Pacman is the strength.

[lecter]

if d mgkadayon ang away ni pac ug floydie, it wud be the biggest upset(probably) in the world of boxing as a whole....
sayang.....

[Bongoton]

Mayweather had a better showing against an undrained Cotto than Manny did against old man midget Marquez. Nobody was crying robbery at the end.

Zab sets his power punches with exceptional jabs. How does Manny set up his offense against Mayweather? Please don't say jab. His right hand is useless on its own. Mayweather humiliated Corley bad 8 years ago. Floyd figured both out and the only way you can say it was a good fight was if you only watched the highlights. They were both lopsided wins for Mayweather.

Majority of Marquez' hits that found their mark against Pac were jabs and right straights and not those combinations you talk about. Mayweather with his 72 reach advantage will have no trouble hitting his target all night long. When you say Mayweather doesn't take risks you are very wrong. Risk taking is the very essence of being a counter puncher. Baiting a punch, punishing a whiff, and timing your punches with your opponents all take massive balls.

How does Manny react to getting tagged? I've seen Manny get shut down easily more than once. Pac vs Morales 1 and against Marquez 2 and 3 prove that Pac is uncomfortable and reluctant when he starts feeling leather in his face.

I still don't get how Manny is supposedly faster than Floyd. The fastest opponent Manny has ever faced is Mosley. The rest were slow pokes. Mayweather made Judah, Corley, and Mosley look like multicabs racing a ferrari. And in boxing speed does not guarantee success because timing is still everything. Slow boxers with great timing (hopkins for example) will have more success than mere speedsters (Camacho). Floyd has better timing than Pac that much is understood.

True we've never seen Floyd face a pressure fighter on Pac's level. But we have seen how Pac has fared against a counter puncher who by the way was way past his prime and always the smaller man.

I only mentioned Corley and Judah fights because the former hurt Mayweather at one point (guess what, left hand) and Judah knocked him down with his left as well.

Cotto was drained @ 145 lbs when he fought Pacquiao? have you even seen the weigh in? those are excuses.. Cotto lost not because he was drained but because he basically trained himself for that fight, and Manny is just better than him.

Manny gets uncomfortable when hit? LOL.. that's breaking news.. I bet nobody wants to get hit in the face but watching boxing for a long time, I KNOW Mayweather is the one who does not want to get hit, not Pacquiao.

Again, if your basing how PAc will fare against Floyd because of the great Juan Manuel Marquez, you are absolutely wrong, I promise. But its your opinion and we can't do anything about that. The only way to find out is when they both fight each other. Until I see it with my own eyes, I won't be convinced that Mayweather will handle Pacquiao as easily as you described. NOBODY will have an easy night with Manny, win or lose. And your boy seems to agree with that as he is mightily doing everything not to make the fight happen. In his own words, Pacquiao is a health risk and he won't fight the man unless everything is under his unfair terms

[Bongoton]

Got this from the ever reliable Doug Fisher of Ringtv.com.. I suggest you start reading his mailbags regularly for you to make sense of things.. hehehe

Dougie's Monday mailbag | RingTV

Fans and media who think Pacquiao has some kind of edge over Mayweather nowbecause he defeated Cotto in one-sided fashion in 2009 need to get a clue and study the concept of “styles make fights.” They also need to take into consideration that Cotto basically trained himself for the Pacquiao fight. (You are absolutely right that Cotto has improved his technique – especially his defense – thanks to two camps with Emanuel Steward and two with Pedro Diaz.) Fans and media who think Mayweather will eat Pacquiao for lunch because Floyd dominated Juan Manuel Marquez and the Filipino hero has always struggled with the Mexican master also need to get a clue and study up on how different styles play out in the ring.

[doi]

Indeed, "Styles Makes Fights" and Mayweather vs Pacquiao epitomize that cause they are contrast of each other.

When you say Mayweather doesn't take risks you are very wrong. Risk taking is the very essence of being a counter puncher. Baiting a punch, punishing a whiff, and timing your punches with your opponents all take massive balls.

yesssir! To say Mayweather doesn't take risks is BS, he'll purposely put himself in the ropes/corner just to bait opponents into throwing wild punches to give him some openings to counter and it works perfectly for him. He takes risks but he doesn't have the killer instinct as he had in his younger years because of his brittle hands.

How does Manny react to getting tagged? I've seen Manny get shut down easily more than once. Pac vs Morales 1 and against Marquez 2 and 3 prove that Pac is uncomfortable and reluctant when he starts feeling leather in his face.

Manny has this tendency when he gets countered/hit a lot, he'll slow his pace down, settle and abandon his usually style.