***truth about jesus christ!

[marine77]

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BTW wala nag pundar si Jesus ug religion diha kang Peter pero nag pundar siya Church...ngano kahang dili churches kun dili church lang diha sa bible...ay kog ingna nga churches na nga na pundar adtong 16th century.

Lisud man pud part kung pila ra sila kabuok unya, balig 5 ang pormahon sa Ginoo nga simbahan. Of course karon sa atong panahon, dili jud kalikayan nga daghan nang maglahi kay naa may mga teachings nga dili magkauyon ang uban. But because lagi kay naay religious tolerance tugotan ra. But dont you know that even sa ubang religions, they also have divisions? Islam, buddhism and hinduism.

Importante lang sa Christian faith is that nagka unite mi diha sa Ginoong hesukristo nga among Saviour.

[SugbuNI]

to prove you bro, give me a verse that contradicts what i said that proves you right. It doesn't point to religion intawn bro. It points to Christianity. Points to Christ not religion. In the old testament, God actually calls religious people whores.
Religion is not the link. FAITH is the link.

Kung mangutana mo asa ko gkan na mutoo man ko nga naai Ginoo kai naa man toi ni post nga asa daw gkan ang Ginoo, bro the Bible is the Word of God, and I believe what it says. matod pa sa mga Pilosopo, hinimo ra daw na ug tawo. Okay here it is,
Genesis......Psalms.........Mathew...Mark, Luke, John to revelation. Every book, that means(Mathew, Mark,Luke,John,Proverbs), thousands of years ang gap ana. Nya nanganung maka.ingon man ta nga ang gipangsulti sa Old Testament kai ni coincide sa New Testament? bsag pila pa ka years ang gap sa every book. Because the writer is not the man(Paul,Peter..etc),they were guided by the Holy Spirit. so if close inyung huna.huna ana, or inyung kasing2x ana. Inyu nang choice, ana man sa bible na many are called buy only few who response.

calm down kid. ang ponto nga atong gi diskosyon mao ni...

matud pa nimo dili Relihiyon but relationship so akong tobag...kinsa may gatudlo diay nimo ni Hesus di ba Relihiyon man. kong wa pa ng Relihiyon di ka maka ila ni Hesus.

it does not point to Religion but to Christianity? unsa man diay ng Christianity Relihiyon man na. na unsa naman ni oi.

tawag sa Ginoo sa mga Religious people whore? aw Religious people dili Religion lahi man ng duha dong.

di sa ta anang question kong nganong motoo ka nga naai Ginoo kay di man na ang diskosyon nato karon.

[ketllac]

@Marine77

ayaw i interpret ug negative kay mopadung na ug dili mao!

oh really? hahahahaha. sa imo man nang baba gikan..gusto ako nasad i qoute..hahahaha..

actually part, kung imong sabton ang verse simple raman kayo. giingon ra diha that those who deny that Christ was come in the flesh or ni reject sa Father and the Son are antichrists. Dili baya na lisud sabton.

lagi...wala ko nisupak nimo..wala sad ko nakig debate nimo...ako ra gi sakyan imo line of reasoning...so molabas nga tanang non christians are anti christ..and niingon sad ka logically yes..deny pa gyud ka ana... ug ingon sad ka nga anti christ mga iya sa satanas..so ikaw ray nag ingon ana IMPLICTLY dili ako...I am just having fun talking to a bigot mind like you...hahahahah.

sayop!

sayop pero tagai kog rason nganong sayop? aber aber...

sayop gihapon.

kalawom ba nimo mo rason....

pinaka dakong SAYOP.

kini pinaka lawom nga reasoning sukad sukad ako natag buan sa istorya.net...

[cobraKing]

na unsa na ni dri marine77

[marine77]

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pataka man lang ka. ikaw nganong myembro man lagi ka og pondok? gawas sa imong pondok beh para motoo ko nga puede ra way pondok, sige ka og sulti ana nya ikaw mismo myembro ka og pondok, walay polos ng imong ponto kong mao na.

di ayaw pag pangutana ug dili mao kung ikaw mismo dili diay modawat sa tubag)

delikado ni imong prinsipyo dong. You get instructions from Pastors/Priests and Theologians, sound doctrines are learned from them. To say we only need the bible is to abandon proper guidance w/c is vital for proper Christian living. ang resulta mahimo kang kolto, kasagaran ra ba sa mga kolto mga tao nga gi disregard nila ang pondok nila kay naa silay ilang kaugalingon interpretation sa bible.

Asa man diay nimo gilearned ang imong spiritual knowledge?> kung ikaw lahi sad imong belief (lets say occultist), then imong masters mao sad nay nagtudlo sa imoha.

hahahah---Referring to the bible is abandoning proper guidance, how come? tanan nga mga writings/books sa mga saints nga imong gibasihan sa proper christian living is derived from the Highest standards, the BIBLE.

Research sa part unsa nang Kulto nga term kay murag nagpasagad lang ka!

[jairoh_]

calm down kid. ang ponto nga atong gi diskosyon mao ni...

matud pa nimo dili Relihiyon but relationship so akong tobag...kinsa may gatudlo diay nimo ni Hesus di ba Relihiyon man. kong wa pa ng Relihiyon di ka maka ila ni Hesus.

it does not point to Religion but to Christianity? unsa man diay ng Christianity Relihiyon man na. na unsa naman ni oi.

tawag sa Ginoo sa mga Religious people whore? aw Religious people dili Religion lahi man ng duha dong.

di sa ta anang question kong nganong motoo ka nga naai Ginoo kay di man na ang diskosyon nato karon.

it's the Holy Spirit that teaches through a man.
yeah i know Christianity is a religion. But come on, ang core akong gipasabot which is Christ! kai kasagaran naman gud karun abi kai nabelong cla sa Christian na group nagpasabot na Christian pud cla. Doesn't mean just because you're wearing a lakers' jersey you're playing for lakers. being a Christian means you let Christ live in you. Gal 2:20 "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.". di pasabot gilansang ka, ang pasabot c Christ na ang nagkinabuhi nimo. you realized that you're dead to sin and that no one can save u but Christ.

[ketllac]

that's not true bro. In the old testament, religion already exist. Religion means beliefs, attitudes and practices for their creator. ang mga karaang taw, nag worship na ug mga idols like cows, rivers, trees, and etc.
Sauna you need to follow the ten commandments, pero makasala man jud ta. saon taman na. God is a perfect God bya, He is holy, He is perfect. His standards are perfect. But we can never be perfect, we always disobey the laws(commandments), That's why He sent His only Son(Jesus Christ),the one who has no sin to be our sin for us. John 3:16 na "For God so loved the world that He gave his only Son that whoever believe in Him will not perish but will have everlasting life." That's it. Whoever believe in Christ, not whoever following the commandments will be saved, come one!, di ta ka.perfect sa laws(commandments).

atong topic is Christianity nga na pundar tungod ni Kristo after sa iya resurrection ug sa timeline nga nag pakatawo siya sa kalibutan, dili before sa iyahang pag katawo..ang main premise sa atong discussion is true christian church gikan sa pangutana nga naa bay religion gi pundar si kristo in which niingon ko nga wala siya nag create ug religion kundili church....di ba? so useless imo pag apil sa old testament religion kay irrelevant your honor..


Matthew 16:18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.


I refute ni nga verse nganong Church ang gigamit dili Churches...Saan nag kulang si Kristo brader? nga ningsulpot ning almost 35, 000 ka denomination?

[marine77]

@mga opposing views of christianity

akong pangutana ninyo part, unsa may inyohang paagi diay sa kaluwasan? unsay basis?
please reponse para maklaro ba.

[omniknight]

The absolute inability of man to save himself from his sin and its condemnation is a constant theme throughout the Scriptures. Man’s inability to save himself is one of the darkest truths of Scripture. Yet, it serves to humble man & magnify the power of God to save. Left to himself, man cannot be saved. But God has not left man to himself; He has provided for our salvation through the gospel of His Son! That which is impossible for men is possible with God (Mk. 10:27). He is mighty to save, and is able save to the uttermost (Heb. 7:25).

- Paul David Washer



For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, - Hebrews 10:26

Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. - James 1:22

Habitual-intentional/continuous-deliberate sinning leads you to Hell.

When it becomes a habit and intentional in speaking lies, it leads to hell.

When it becomes a habit and intentional in watching porn, it leads to hell.

Even if we let's say put the so gasgas word "repentance" in between a habitual/intentional sinning. It still leads you to hell. There is no such thing as repentance in between a habitual/intentional sin.

So you just need to have faith that the Savior Jesus Christ will come to you and make you stop doing the habitual/intentional sins.

[marine77]

nice post bro.