***truth about jesus christ!

[SioDenz]

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Naa mi silingan si Jesus - Manghihilot

[ketllac]

asa may nilusot ana? imong gi accuse nila is SATANAS na SILA! kasabot baka sa imong gisulti or gilibog-libog lang nimo imong kaugalingon?

Pure reason is taht kung ang usa ka tawo ni against sa usa ka butang, of course matawag jud na siya nga anti! unsa man diay nga maayong term nimo ana?

ingon ka anti christ sila dayon ingon sad nga ang anti christ nag embody ug satanic teaching based sa imong link sa website ug sa bible..di ba technically satanic ila grupo..pero indirect lang imo pag sulti

wala ko niingon nga satanas sila kundli nangutana ko nimo nga imong tubag LOGICALLY YES.. so ikaw nag accuse nila nga mga satanas INDIRECTLY...Simple deduction sa logic imo gibuhat..hhahahha...


ana imo rason;

Premise 1.ang tanang non-christians anti Christ.

P2. Ang anti Christ kay iya sa satanas or kampon sa satanas

conclusion: therefore ang non Christians mga iya sa satanas or satanas..


wala gihapon nimo nakuha or nalibog lang ka sa imo gisulti? di ba molabas nga bigot ka.?...

[ketllac]

BTW wala nag pundar si Jesus ug religion diha kang Peter pero nag pundar siya Church...ngano kahang dili churches kun dili church lang diha sa bible...ay kog ingna nga churches na nga na pundar adtong 16th century.

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Where is the original topic here? Huhuhu

[SugbuNI]

You can find bro in the bible. pwede raka dili mosulod ug pundok then basa lang sa iyang pulong--hhehehe)) kana kung makasabot ka sa iynag message.

pataka man lang ka. ikaw nganong myembro man lagi ka og pondok? gawas sa imong pondok beh para motoo ko nga puede ra way pondok, sige ka og sulti ana nya ikaw mismo myembro ka og pondok, walay polos ng imong ponto kong mao na.

delikado ni imong prinsipyo dong. You get instructions from Pastors/Priests and Theologians, sound doctrines are learned from them. To say we only need the bible is to abandon proper guidance w/c is vital for proper Christian living. ang resulta mahimo kang kolto, kasagaran ra ba sa mga kolto mga tao nga gi disregard nila ang pondok nila kay naa silay ilang kaugalingon interpretation sa bible.

sakto jud ka bro! mao nga unsaon man pag "without it" nila nga naa man jud na? kana kung undo ang history.

unsa?!?!

[jairoh_]

what? all that points to Religion. Religion is your link to Christ w/o it your faith is baseless.

to prove you bro, give me a verse that contradicts what i said that proves you right. It doesn't point to religion intawn bro. It points to Christianity. Points to Christ not religion. In the old testament, God actually calls religious people whores.
Religion is not the link. FAITH is the link.

Kung mangutana mo asa ko gkan na mutoo man ko nga naai Ginoo kai naa man toi ni post nga asa daw gkan ang Ginoo, bro the Bible is the Word of God, and I believe what it says. matod pa sa mga Pilosopo, hinimo ra daw na ug tawo. Okay here it is,
Genesis......Psalms.........Mathew...Mark, Luke, John to revelation. Every book, that means(Mathew, Mark,Luke,John,Proverbs), thousands of years ang gap ana. Nya nanganung maka.ingon man ta nga ang gipangsulti sa Old Testament kai ni coincide sa New Testament? bsag pila pa ka years ang gap sa every book. Because the writer is not the man(Paul,Peter..etc),they were guided by the Holy Spirit. so if close inyung huna.huna ana, or inyung kasing2x ana. Inyu nang choice, ana man sa bible na many are called buy only few who response.

[marine77]

Kana kon tinuod imong gi-tuohan nga si Jesus Christ mao ang Dios pero kon di na maoy tinuod kanang pagtooha which debatable pa na, maoy nay mag-sugba nimo sa kalayo sa impyerno, maayo pay atheist nimo ana.

bad suggestion. Wala ko kasabot nimo ug nganong mag quote2 sad ka ug bible verses then nagduha2 diay ka sa imong pagtuo. Dili na faith imoha bro, konwledge lang na!

See! your concept of God being bounded by time and space is clearly illogical because God cannot be bounded by time nor by space. Don't allege that the Qur'an is derived from the Bible kay klaro kaayo ka nga wa pa ka kabasa ug Qur'an.

Again, wala pa nimo masabti ang concept sa Trinity!
hhheheh--naa koy koran diri bro kay bisan 5 pa atong pangayuon diri sa middle east manghatag jud sila.

Bro, TRUTH is simple if is not simple it is not the TRUTH! Kon moingon ka "THERE IS ONLY GOD except GOD", finish! pero kon moingon ka "THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD" unya moingon ka "IN THREE PERSONS" imong lang gilibog ang imong kaugalingon ana.

hehhe---how about the god molech, horus, isis, baphometh? Usa ra sad na sila, Ginoo gihapon na?
Unsa may lisud sabton ana nga ang Ginoo sa Christians usa ra but manifested in 3 different persons? malibog jud ang tawo ana part kung mabaw ra ang iyang pagsabot about sa Ginoo! parehas gud kung imong tan awn ang usa ka butang like table, diba simple ra jud kayo pero kung imo jud tugkaron ang pinakalawm sa iyang existence, then dili lang kay in ana ra ka simple, it constitute atoms nga nag vibrate, then imong mata nga nagsend ug signal sa utok una ka nakakita sa iyang ka simple!

When you say and your Bible say "his ONLY BEGOTTEN son" does it mean to you, CREATED? (Look up your dictionary what "beget" means.

NO! Jesus Christ was begotten by God in a sense nga iyang existence is already with God since wala pa ang creation.
Adam was created since his essence is not from God. Gikan siya sa yuta.

Collosians 1:
15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

19For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

20And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

John
1:1 In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.
1:14 and the word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us....

For God to be man is possible but for a man to be God is impossible! Unya motubag ta ug "in God there is nothing impossible" correct, unya pangutan-on ka, "can God make stone that is heavy for him to lift?"That is blasphemous, ngano? Imo gipaka-ubos ang Ginoo sa usa ka tawo subjected to man's natural law, mokaon, matulog and all the things which man's subjected to.

hheheh---)
imong belief gud part kay pantheism!
Imong gusto ipagawas that everything in the universe is God or part of God whether good or evil. Gikan sa sakit (cancer), sin, ug hangtud sa galaxy usa ra diha sa Ginoo. Imong analogy nga "can God make stone that is heavy for him to lift?", ang akong tubag kay---DILI PWEDE SA GINOO NGA MAGBUHAT UG BUTANG NGA MO CONTRADICT SA IYANG EXISTENCE! kana nga pangutana part tabla rana ug naghikog ta para mabuhi

Bro, remember Jesus Christ was sent ony to the lost sheeps of Israel. Di pa gyud siya maoy fulfillment kay ngano? mabasa nimo sa Bible nga miingon siya, "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you." - John 16:1-15

Good verse mao na syay ministry of the Holy Spirit na bro!
karon nga panahon ang Holy Spirit na ang maglihok sa tagsa2 ka believer ug pagpasabot niya sa pulong sa Ginoo ug pag encourage pagbuhat sa mga dagkong butang nga maoy ni resulta sa Cristendom karong panahuna.

Kuyawa nimo ug concept no, "Humanity was cursed?" imo gipasabot ani nga injustice ang God!

Bro, kung wala lang unsa nag disobey sila then posible lahi ang setting karon sa kalibutan, posible walay sakit or kalisud like sa atong na experience. Thats why naghisgot ang genesis that the land was curse also aside sa ilang duha who was driven away from the garden.

Bro, akong e-quote ang gisulti sa usa ka Amerikanong pastor nga nahimong Muslim miingon siya, "Islam is everything a Christian wanted to be". Sa kadaghan nimo ug giyawyaw akong masulti nimo mao ra gyud ni, "Again SIMPLICITY is Beauty and Truth!"

So meaning, muslim ka? mas maayo gani bro kaysa mag pantheist ka! abi nimo, gamay ra jud ang deperensya sa christianity ug islam. Diha ra jud sa kamatayon ni Ginoong hesukristo nag part ug ways!

Tagai kuno ko ug specific example bi anang giingon nimo ug compulsion sa Islam!

Kung ang usa ka anak sa Imam or muslim cleric mag convert into christianity, kabalo ba ka nga mangita silag paagi nga mabalik jud? if not, ipapatay siya? daghan mga cases ingon ani bro diri sa middle east countries especially saudi arabia. Kung wala pa, duna unta silay gitawag ug religious freedom nga open sila sa gospel sa ilang lugar, diba? Sila gusto mo penetrate sa atong lugar pero ang christians dili pwede sa ilang lugar mag wali!Mao nay compulsion bro.

[marine77]

Balik kunu mu sa topic about Jesus

Naa mi silingan si Jesus - Manghihilot

unya nindot na kayo imo paminaw ana nga statement?

[jairoh_]

BTW wala nag pundar si Jesus ug religion diha kang Peter pero nag pundar siya Church...ngano kahang dili churches kun dili church lang diha sa bible...ay kog ingna nga churches na nga na pundar adtong 16th century.

that's not true bro. In the old testament, religion already exist. Religion means beliefs, attitudes and practices for their creator. ang mga karaang taw, nag worship na ug mga idols like cows, rivers, trees, and etc.
Sauna you need to follow the ten commandments, pero makasala man jud ta. saon taman na. God is a perfect God bya, He is holy, He is perfect. His standards are perfect. But we can never be perfect, we always disobey the laws(commandments), That's why He sent His only Son(Jesus Christ),the one who has no sin to be our sin for us. John 3:16 na "For God so loved the world that He gave his only Son that whoever believe in Him will not perish but will have everlasting life." That's it. Whoever believe in Christ, not whoever following the commandments will be saved, come one!, di ta ka.perfect sa laws(commandments).

[marine77]

ingon ka anti christ sila dayon ingon sad nga ang anti christ nag embody ug satanic teaching based sa imong link sa website ug sa bible..di ba technically satanic ila grupo..pero indirect lang imo pag sulti

ayaw i interpret ug negative kay mopadung na ug dili mao!

wala ko niingon nga satanas sila kundli nangutana ko nimo nga imong tubag LOGICALLY YES.. so ikaw nag accuse nila nga mga satanas INDIRECTLY...Simple deduction sa logic imo gibuhat..hhahahha...

actually part, kung imong sabton ang verse simple raman kayo. giingon ra diha that those who deny that Christ was come in the flesh or ni reject sa Father and the Son are antichrists. Dili baya na lisud sabton.

ana imo rason;

Premise 1.ang tanang non-christians anti Christ.

sayop!

P2. Ang anti Christ kay iya sa satanas or kampon sa satanas

sayop gihapon.

conclusion: therefore ang non Christians mga iya sa satanas or satanas..

pinaka dakong SAYOP.

wala gihapon nimo nakuha or nalibog lang ka sa imo gisulti? di ba molabas nga bigot ka.?...

Ang nilabas part kay wala ka makasabot!