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    Default Re: Ngano man daghan nag lagot sa Networking Business?


    Quote Originally Posted by makie View Post
    3.) And lastly, guba kaayo ang image sa networking. Everybody's perception of networking is scam. People have default notions about networking and its very hard to change that.
    hehe. dapat my IMHO siguro yan bro? but anyway, as what iv said,, most real legit established network marketing gud, like Avon og oban pa,, are not added to that weighing scale gud... ask common filipinos if Avon is a network marketing ba.... ask if what network marketing they do know... those companies like UNO are recruiting students mn gd,,,, we personally are NOT recommending this to students,,, onsa jud alam nila? hilak ra dayon na sila if ma paso na... dili mo take responsibility on their actions... syagit dayon og SCAM! tsk.. ana jud na...

    then bro,,, what is the common notion of Politics? Customs? BIR? haaai... ganyan kasi talaga... always jud naa negative... mas negative pa ang politics or customs or BIR yata kesa sa network marketing bro... powerful zd ang advertising of negativity than positivity bro, we all know that,, but we forget that mn oi.... then esp. this industry is just in its early stages pa,,, unaccepted pa,, like franchising decades ago.... i know you are good with stocks bro...., what is your philosophy in choosing it bro? i think, in stocks, we need to find the NEXT starbucks, google, facebook. not the famous or the existing socially accepted companies,,, if it is in the news,, we are there too late...

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    Quote Originally Posted by makie View Post
    If you get into business, you have to be analytical and as much as possible, see things in all perspective. Most people join networking companies because all they see is the potential earnings but doesn't look at what's behind it. Mao nang daghan kaayo ang mascam and daghan kaayo ang di kabawi sa ilang capital. Worse, daghan kaayo ang di matagam.

    I just don't join a company or start doing anything just because of the earnings. Aside from profitability, I look at competition, lesser competition ba? Concept of the company or business, is it sellable? Can it make an impact to other people's lives? Much more, is it stable? And most of all, is it something of my interest?

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not totally against MLM, networking (but I'm 100% against scams, pyramiding) but I've got some standards to keep and follow.

    But since this thread is all about "why people hate networking", then I'm enumerating the reasons and negative side of networking. Maybe you can start a different thread about networking or "why people love" networking then I'd post my positive inputs there.
    yes bro,, tama ka bro... we need to analyze jud.... the questions you ask bro, are the same questions mn pd nako,, pero of course lahi ra ta,,, first time mn nako ga network marketing gud, na curious zd ko ani na industry before, na timing lang jud siguro na ang tanan na ako pangutana ky natobag mn og tarong.... og na satisfy mn jud tanan pd gud.....

    By the way bro,,, i am also against scams, pyramiding, ponzi schemes, get-rich-quick schemes,, or onsa pa na diha.... mao gani i always tell our readers that check the DSAP.... and i also don't want to give them my opinions as if established facts...

    also, i tried to start that thread na imo gusto bro..... pero ambot ba ani,, ga highlight lang gani nako ang akoa company among sa list of 31 registered companies of DSAP,, just to be known that my opinions and statements are based on that company,,, and im not representing the whole industry jud.... tsk3X. gi closed mn ako thread gud dayon bro,, mao diri na lang pd ko.... i wud be much willing mn onta na e edit akoa posts jud,,,, if gaan lang chance,,, i always try to follow all rules mn jud.... mao karon hinay hinay gni ko diri,, dili gani ko mention sa ako company nlng.... ky para maka tarong jud ko discussion ninyo.... i recognize istorya.net gd as one of the best resources of filipinos gud (esp. cebuanos),,, then here, dami ayu cynical and close-minded people,,,,, i want to contribute to positive reviews of the industry gud, mao naa ko diri.... kasagaran positive gud sa network marketing,, dili mn jud nahan mo tobay mga inani gud..... if mo tobay mn gni sila,,, mg advertise ra pd nuon.....

    what im always advertising jud ky kani na website:
    Be a Network Marketing Professional! - Archives | Network Marketing Pro | Free MLM Training

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorjan View Post
    yes naa siguro pipila lang na mg jeep lang bro... pero very inconvenient na ayu pd na oi.... og ang mga kuyog na responsibilities mn sa position ako gi isip pd gd, busy ayu na sila na, dili na sila pwede maki sabayan sa ordinary employee ilog2X og jeep... ila load ana ky dapat Plan jud... etc2X... if Boss na bro, daghan mn jud additional needs... i mean, dili pd kaya 15k monthly expenses oi if sa ila case... hehehe. nindot ayu na if single pa og wala pa family... og nag rise na bya electrictic, gasolina, etc2X...

    and ang average salary sa manager diri sa Philippines ky 30k og ang CEO or VP or director ky 80k... if employee pd sa government bro:

    Salaries of Government officials in the Philippines:
    President of the Philippines salary is: 57,750
    Vice President’s salary is: 46,200 – 54,917
    Senator’s salary is: 40,425 -48,052
    Congressman’s salary is: 40,425 -48,052
    Governor’s salary is: 28,875 – 34,323
    Mayor’s salary is: 23,422 – 27,842

    sorry bro, i thought diri sa philippines ato gi hisgotan bro....

    possible mn gyud mka save og 1M per year ang isa ka employee being only an employee,, wala ga investor or businessman, pero under very perfect situations na jud ayu, dili realistic og dili existing jud, ky pila na kaha ka post-graduate studies gi take ana, haha, parinti pd siguro ang owner sa business/company, or possible pd if Manager siguro na sa biggest illegal drug factory... hehe.

    http://myjobstreet.jobstreet.com/car...nager||170||ph
    How much money do people in the Philippines make?
    bro murag outdated jud na kaayo nga mga salaries ang naa sa private companies pero kanang sa government murag mao ra jud na gihapon lol. Yes I am talking about Philippine salary. A case in point kanang 40,000 nga Max sa Assistant Manager, ako programmer before nga dili pa manager sa company nga iyang gi workan karon nagsweldo na gali ug 45K last year. I have a friend nga same nako ug field naa sa Cebu nag work ilang sweldo naa sa 90K. Naa koy amigo sa Manila iyang sweldo 200K+ adtong 2009 ambot pila na kaha karon lol. Pulos na nako barkada. Ako naa ra ko sa tunga2x nila during 2009. Last OT na ni hehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorjan View Post
    then bro,,, what is the common notion of Politics? Customs? BIR? haaai... ganyan kasi talaga... always jud naa negative... mas negative pa ang politics or customs or BIR yata kesa sa network marketing bro... powerful zd ang advertising of negativity than positivity bro, we all know that,, but we forget that mn oi.... then esp. this industry is just in its early stages pa,,, unaccepted pa,, like franchising decades ago.... i know you are good with stocks bro...., what is your philosophy in choosing it bro? i think, in stocks, we need to find the NEXT starbucks, google, facebook. not the famous or the existing socially accepted companies,,, if it is in the news,, we are there too late...
    That is actually why gamay ra kaayo ang ang moengage in politics because hugaw kaayo. The same can be said in networking, gamay ra ang willing mosulod because they are aware nga hugaw na kaayo ang pangalan. Customs? BIR? If people only have a choice. These are government agencies so walay choice ang mga tao kung dili moagi gyud diha. I can't say much about the status of networking sa ubang mga countries but I'm pretty sure nga pwerteng hugawa gyud diri sa Philippines. Sad to say, damay tanang legit companies.

    And my stock picking principle? I don't bank on small "promising" companies. 80% of my portfolio is with large cap companies which are very popular and stable, in short, relatively "risk free". Small companies are being eaten by large companies (like Jollibee buying Mang Inasal, Puregold buying S&R, PLDT (Smart) buying Digitel or known to people as Sun Cellular). It's not necessary to find the next Starbucks, Google, FB because chances are, if these companies will grow, Starbucks, Google, and FB will simply buy them. They will kill the competition by buying them. If you buy these "small" companies, I'll buy shares of Starbucks, Google, and FB. Sooner or later, once these companies buy those small ones, I'll own your shares. hahaha!

    Negativity will always be present anywhere but in networking's case, grabe na ang kanegative. Congratulations for having a legit company but still, that doesn't change the fact nga hugaw gyud kaayo ang tan-aw sa networking. As long as these binary, matrix2x, pyramiding, or any company that pays through recruitment exists, di gyud ni mausab or malimpyo ang networking sa Philippines. Sobra na 10 years since nagstart ang FQ but even until now, naa gihapon ang mga ingon ana nga style. I expect in the next 10 years ingon ana gihapon na but for sure modified na. And hopefully people would be more educated that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istoryamember View Post
    bro murag outdated jud na kaayo nga mga salaries ang naa sa private companies pero kanang sa government murag mao ra jud na gihapon lol. Yes I am talking about Philippine salary. A case in point kanang 40,000 nga Max sa Assistant Manager, ako programmer before nga dili pa manager sa company nga iyang gi workan karon nagsweldo na gali ug 45K last year. I have a friend nga same nako ug field naa sa Cebu nag work ilang sweldo naa sa 90K. Naa koy amigo sa Manila iyang sweldo 200K+ adtong 2009 ambot pila na kaha karon lol. Pulos na nako barkada. Ako naa ra ko sa tunga2x nila during 2009. Last OT na ni hehehehe

    hehe. ka nindot ana na mga companies bro oi... ka nindot nimo mga barkada oi.... hehehehe. pero i think bro,, naa mo sa elite class sa employee sector gd.... samot na ng 200k+,, hehe, pang saudi nman na manager na,, hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vino Kid View Post
    FQ seguro?
    what's that?

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    Legacy? hehe
    well that's one! haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by makie View Post
    And my stock picking principle? I don't bank on small "promising" companies. 80% of my portfolio is with large cap companies which are very popular and stable, in short, relatively "risk free". Small companies are being eaten by large companies (like Jollibee buying Mang Inasal, Puregold buying S&R, PLDT (Smart) buying Digitel or known to people as Sun Cellular). It's not necessary to find the next Starbucks, Google, FB because chances are, if these companies will grow, Starbucks, Google, and FB will simply buy them. They will kill the competition by buying them. If you buy these "small" companies, I'll buy shares of Starbucks, Google, and FB. Sooner or later, once these companies buy those small ones, I'll own your shares. hahaha!
    i wud have bought instagram.... then ul be in FB.... ma wala d i ako shares sa instagram bro? in choosing a company, i used to analyze it as a business lang jud, if it is doing a very good business, very good people running it, offering the RELATIVELY the best in the competition.... if i wud have bought instagram and u bought FB,,, my small investment is relatively worth 1B USD, a big chunk of your investment.... FB is afraid..... yes they bought Instagram... pero ma wala ba ang instagram? im not talking about digitel being bought by Smart gd,,, ky smart jud ko... hehe. ang potential of growth mn gud ang important nako bro.... buying the hots stocks of tomorrow.... OT na ayu ta,, sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by makie View Post
    Negativity will always be present anywhere but in networking's case, grabe na ang kanegative. Congratulations for having a legit company but still, that doesn't change the fact nga hugaw gyud kaayo ang tan-aw sa networking. As long as these binary, matrix2x, pyramiding, or any company that pays through recruitment exists, di gyud ni mausab or malimpyo ang networking sa Philippines. Sobra na 10 years since nagstart ang FQ but even until now, naa gihapon ang mga ingon ana nga style. I expect in the next 10 years ingon ana gihapon na but for sure modified na. And hopefully people would be more educated that time.
    hehe. i expect the opposite for the next 10 years....
    dili mn mo sobra bro,, mo gamay mn bro....
    ma limpyo mn nuon bro....

    You are hoping that people would be more educated that time.... db?

    me, I believe they will be..... yes bro... wala na magpa ilad jud.....

    then ky wala nman mgpa ilad, wala na kaayo mangingilad db? hehe.
    like franchising companies, gi kapoy na sila sa franchising og ilad2X before,
    so balhin sila og ilad2X sa networking ron,, puhon ma immune na ang
    industry, ma stronger na og mas clearer na ang lines between legit and scams...

    in our case, wala mn jud mi mag ilad2X jud,

    so obviously that will be very good thing to my network marketing business jud... hehe.

    bro,,, in our own network marketing business ron,
    we have around 50 people na siguro na retail customers lang...
    we only have 7 downlines pa ron.... ang isa ky ganina pa lang...

    di mn ni papaspasay gud.... this company will live more than i do....
    our families are also enjoying the benefits of the products mn pd...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorjan View Post
    possible mn gyud mka save og 1M per year ang isa ka employee being only an employee,, wala ga investor or businessman, pero under very perfect situations na jud ayu, dili realistic og dili existing jud,
    murag MLM diay... if only e-include na nila sa orientation...

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