What do you think is the best solution to the over supply of nurses in our country?

[slyder10]

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best solution? training sila para police. lateral entry dayun. voila! lieutenant dretso. kulang tag police sa Pinas.

[gareb]

But one of the reasons private hospitals are so expensive is because there are so few of them. If there were more hospitals they would be more affordable due to competition.

Just how are we going to fund a strong public health sector and how far are we willing to go down the road of indenturing our medical professionals to serve the needs of the poor? These public hospitals can't afford to pay a competitive salary, so you know the only options left is to either force doctors/nurses to work for next to nothing in service of the State or increase taxes that may or may not be spent properly by the government.

And you can leave the health care industry to businessmen and still have a strong health care program for everyone. If you're going to tax people for health care it might as well be to help everyone afford a good private hospital.

even in the US where hospitals abound, the cost of private hospitals are still high, suggesting that the traditional rules of economics does not apply here, but the "cost disease" of the service sector. it is a well-known phenomena in the service sectors.

these public hospitals cannot afford to pay competitive salaries precisely because the health sector is not a priority in the legislated national budget. instead of free medication out of the taxes we pay, we are advised to approach charitable institutions (e.g. PCSO) for relief.

the Nordic model of a welfare state would suggest that entrusting health to the public sector works wonders, as opposed to the vaunted "free market" style that the US has. they have high taxes, yes, but it seems to work, judging on the happiness scale that these countries have as opposed to the US.

[monroy]

The costs of health care are high whether it is private or public. But which is more efficient, private non-profit hospitals or public hospitals run by the government? All the best equipment, doctors and nurses are gonna come at a premium, it's gonna cost somebody no matter what. This is why nordic welfare system of best health care for all is only found in rich countries. There is no way a country like ours is gonna be able to afford world-class health services for everybody.

Nords are also known for their honesty and near-zero rates of corruption. I'll leave it up to you to answer the question whether or not we have the same environment and culture to implement their model successfully here. Cos people might be thinking we're gonna end up with high standard health care but end up getting ambuvans instead...

[gareb]

The costs of health care are high whether it is private or public. But which is more efficient, private non-profit hospitals or public hospitals run by the government? All the best equipment, doctors and nurses are gonna come at a premium, it's gonna cost somebody no matter what. This is why nordic welfare system of best health care for all is only found in rich countries. There is no way a country like ours is gonna be able to afford world-class health services for everybody.

Nords are also known for their honesty and near-zero rates of corruption. I'll leave it up to you to answer the question whether or not we have the same environment and culture to implement their model successfully here. Cos people might be thinking we're gonna end up with high standard health care but end up getting ambuvans instead...

introducing the private non-profit initiative automatically demolishes the idea of competition via the profit motive, which incidentally is the reason behind the traditional set up of the innovation and efficiency of private business enterprises.

the issue of corruption is not an issue that is independent from everything else. it is connected to the issue of healthcare in various levels, but its roots are essentially the same: unaccountability due to imbalances in economic, hence socio-political, power.

i suggested the Nordic model because that is what can be readily seen to work. to suggest something else would muddle the issue of alternatives even more; we can go there in time. the Nords may have significant differences with us in various aspects, true, but they have shown us how to do things. do we say "no" at the first issue of the challenge?

[DEMONOCIETY]

ang uban nurse grad kung y job kuyaw kaayo tirada kung dili call center ky kuan.... cyber..... tirada for extra income lolsss

[OmegaRed]

mas maau mag build og lain public hospital para ma gamit atong mga nursing graduates.. kng maka visit lng mo sa mga public hospital looy kaau. like katong mga bag.o nanganak, sa osa ka katri 3 or 4 ka mga inahan in one bed... tarong pa na? nya wa pay klarong atiman cla... kay limited ra ang doctor.. sus paeta....

[jah_maica09]

ang mga nurse mg volunteer nlng sa unya nlng ang sahud... it cud help...

[axelrod]

I think ang CHED jud ang mabasol aning pagka oversupply sa Nurses dinhi sa PH. Pero saludo jud ko atong mga Nurses nga nikuha aning kursoha tungod kay ilang "calling" ug dili tungod sa monetary reward nga ilang makuha. I knew a person nga 20 years na cyang nurse dinhi sa PH and receives not more 8k a month pero gipili lang japon niya nga mo serve dinhi.

[diatabz]

You want more jobs for nurse? You push for more hospitals and for the government to actually invest in healthcare in this country. Go to Sotto and see for yourself the patient loads for each nurse. It can go as high as 20:1. Go to CCMC and you'll shudder at the conditions there. Public healthcare is piss poor in the Philippines.

[monroy]

You want more jobs for nurse? You push for more hospitals and for the government to actually invest in healthcare in this country. Go to Sotto and see for yourself the patient loads for each nurse. It can go as high as 20:1. Go to CCMC and you'll shudder at the conditions there. Public healthcare is piss poor in the Philippines.

It's piss poor because the country is also poor. I think you people are getting it the other way around. A country must first become rich before it can have free healthcare for everybody otherwise in the meantime we need to be realistic, there's no way we can afford this when there are people who can barely eat 3 meals a day.

It's common sense and the classic horse before the cart model. If we fix our economic problems, then we can afford better hospitals. Otherwise where are you going to get the funds to run all these hospitals?