Questions for the Atheists

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Na-transform ra sya ug Satan part pagka-ugbok! hahahah.



dara brad ai ang hinungdan which is mao sad ang kasing2 sa tawo kung motaas na ang garbo--

Isa:14:12: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa:14:13: For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa:14:14: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isa:14:15: Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.



mao bitawng gi-ugbok kay wala makauyon ang Ginoo sa iyang intention!



Yes tinuod, thats why gihatagan ta niya ug responsibility sa atong freewill. Pero kita ang nagpili sa atong choices. Same with Lucifer!



may unta dunay atheist part noh nga masuwayan unta ug himoong kabaw bah, bisan usa lang ka adlaw, makareklamo ba kaha sya noh nganong gihimo syag kabaw? hahahhahh-

No problem with all that. That's what I actually mean on the first place.

Then karon tin-aw na kayo ang story brad? unsa mana nga books atong ma referan ba?

unsay problema nimo nganhi nako?

Naa man sa dili makita gud ang cause aning tanan brad--

I've tried to use that as proof to the Atheists that God exist. It does not work because dili man xa proven sa science daw. All unseen events are hoaxes according to Atheists because they believe that to see is to believe. I don't know what's your problem with me when we have the same belief.

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gahimo himo og Angel imong Ginoo nga kabalo man unta nga dili mo sunod sa iyang plano pero gipadayon jud og create ang Angel nya karon basolon ang Demonyo, hahahaha.

In the beginning of times where human first exist, no one knows goodness when evil does not exist. Wala unta makahibaw sa pinka-una sa panahon nga ang pagpangawat dili maayo kung wala mu-exist ang pagpangawat. Gets bro?

bai kanang Lucifer sa imong Isaiah sayop na nga translation.

The word "Lucifer" in Isaiah 14:12 presents a minor problem to mainstream Christianity. It becomes a much larger problem to Bible literalists, and becomes a huge obstacle for the claims of Mormonism. John J. Robinson in A Pilgrim's Path, pp. 47-48 explains:

"Lucifer makes his appearance in the fourteenth chapter of the Old Testament book of Isaiah, at the twelfth verse, and nowhere else: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

Sakto man. Lucifer was once means Bearer of Light. Lucifer became Satan when put to the ground.

The first problem is that Lucifer is a Latin name. So how did it find its way into a Hebrew manuscript, written before there was a Roman language? To find the answer, I consulted a scholar at the library of the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati. What Hebrew name, I asked, was Satan given in this chapter of Isaiah, which describes the angel who fell to become the ruler of hell? Please, I asked, explain this to me in a manner that I can understand and then explain to anyone, not just folks who have completed a degree either traditionally or through an online university.

Lucifer - where did the word come from and what is its true meaning?

Latin, Hebrew, and Greek were the traditional languages. They almost, but not entirely, the same structure before. Ask a linguist on that.

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ingnon lagi dayun ta nga wa ta kasabot basta mosopak ta.

aw ana man jud na ang inyong Ginoo di ta kasopak, di ta puede mo exercise sa atong rights, gitagaan kono ta og freewill pero kong gamiton nato ilabay ta sa impyerno. buhat buhat og balaod nya siya ra gihapon ang mo violate, thou shall not murder kono pero ok ra basta Genocide inubanan pa og trumpets. toink! totottotot...kill all the children. sus kuyawa, nya di na evil para ninyo?

Maka-sopak man ka sa Ginoo, and you can use your rights. Ni-supak gani si Lucifer, ang taw naba. There is free will. Naa gani free will si Satanas, ang taw naba kaha?

Ilabay jud ka sa impyerno kung imong free will gamiton sa daotan, pareha ni Lucifer.

Diin man ka anang ok ra ang Genocide nga gi-ubanan sa mga trumpets? Source please.

Diin man sad ka anang kill all the childrens daw? Source daw.

mao na imong Ginoo brah? tyrant! Hitler.


morag di man sigoro ingon ana ang Ginoo bai, inyong concept ang sayop.

Sayop man guro ka sa imung gi-huna2x brad. Kung police palang ka, murag kag nag-priso sa usa ka innocente unta imung gi-accuse of drug pusher. Anyway, naa siguroy points sa bible nga wala nimo nasabtan pag-ayo mao ng wala naka kailag Ginoo.

[ketllac]

the word STOP reverberates mostly on the other side......

and here we go around in circles.........again....

happy new year to all....

ad nauseaum padulong bai. kay mo buhi man ang idea ang duha ka kampo nga wala na qualify daan as true....

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@enzoy

unsa ka ka sure nga imo perception sa non-existent accurate? is existence a total opposite of no-existence?

Tell you honestly I don't know what is non-existence. I don't even know how you can 'define' existence. That is why I suggested we start with the definition of terms.

[How'sThat?]

In the beginning of times where human first exist, no one knows goodness when evil does not exist. Wala unta makahibaw sa pinka-una sa panahon nga ang pagpangawat dili maayo kung wala mu-exist ang pagpangawat. Gets bro?

gets ba nako? WALA. palihug ko og tan.aw sa previous post kato imo gi quote nya e compare imo tobag nga ako gi quote karon. wa mahaom.

Sakto man. Lucifer was once means Bearer of Light. Lucifer became Satan when put to the ground.

wa ma igo sa topic bai. basaha ang aritcle. ang contention didto nag ingon nga kanang Isaiah nga verses nga gamiton ninyo as proof for lucifer is a poor interpretation.

Latin, Hebrew, and Greek were the traditional languages. They almost, but not entirely, the same structure before. Ask a linguist on that.

so puede ra pod tawagon si Jesus og Lucifer? basaha sa lagi ang article osa ka mo enter.

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Maka-sopak man ka sa Ginoo, and you can use your rights. Ni-supak gani si Lucifer, ang taw naba. There is free will. Naa gani free will si Satanas, ang taw naba kaha?

Ilabay jud ka sa impyerno kung imong free will gamiton sa daotan, pareha ni Lucifer.

bai kong naay condition ang imong choices then its not freewill or gihatagan ra ka og illusion nga naa kay freewill.

Freewill is this. Nakoy daughter now ako gosto nga korso inig college niya is BSIT but what if di siya ganahan ana og HRM iya kuhaon? ako siya bunalan for exercising her freewill?

Diin man ka anang ok ra ang Genocide nga gi-ubanan sa mga trumpets? Source please.

Diin man sad ka anang kill all the childrens daw? Source daw.

tigbasa baka og bible? ang tao nga gabasa og bible kabalo na kong unsa ako pasabot ana.

Sayop man guro ka sa imung gi-huna2x brad. Kung police palang ka, murag kag nag-priso sa usa ka innocente unta imung gi-accuse of drug pusher. Anyway, naa siguroy points sa bible nga wala nimo nasabtan pag-ayo mao ng wala naka kailag Ginoo.

wa man ko nag accuse bai naa mana sa bible, nakurat gud ko pagbasa nako. pero bai ako di man gud ko literalist.

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God is a creation of man

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Tell you honestly I don't know what is non-existence. I don't even know how you can 'define' existence. That is why I suggested we start with the definition of terms.

kung mo define ka, kaya kaha nato madefine? so imo suggestion invalid na daan.. pero kung laymans term lang, maka verify ta non existent lang , pareha anang sa 1500's non-existent ang car..pero philosophically dili wired ato utok mo understand ug non-existence.so imo suggestion invalid na daan..in the context of our discussion ato sang i-validate kung non-existent man using the conventional way of understanding the word non-existence, dili to the extreme..

[ketllac]

Tell you honestly I don't know what is non-existence. I don't even know how you can 'define' existence. That is why I suggested we start with the definition of terms.

kung mo define ka, kaya kaha nato madefine? so imo suggestion invalid na daan.. pero kung laymans term lang, maka verify ta non existent lang , pareha anang sa 1500's non-existent ang car..pero philosophically dili wired ato utok mo understand ug non-existence.so imo suggestion invalid na daan..in the context of our discussion ato sang i-validate kung non-existent man using the conventional way of understanding the word non-existence, dili to the extreme..