Questions for the Atheists

[kit_cebu]

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OT: i can smell the stench of clones around saving each others arse around here....

[How'sThat?]

- air has been explained.....so are the chemicals that can't be seen that can kill us....
- pasmo
- a very isolated incident happened a long time ago that no scientist/keen observer was able to fully document it...
- area51....it's a government thing....
- out of body experiences? we're they resuscitated? because if they weren't, chances are slim for a "short death experience"...also, chemicals are present in these instances that are NOT USUALLY present in an ordinary day of that person....(read about it once but will NEVER care to research for it to answer your question)
- jesus in a banana tree trunk? coincidence.....and no one ever had a "portrait and cropped" of jesus.....so, anyone could be that "apparition"....oh yeah....did you know that baristas in starbucks or any coffee shops can do an "apparition" in your cup?



- you should watch House....



- i wish he was Bruce Almighty.....at least i'd win the lottery even though what i won is smaller that how much the ticket was worth....at least i can "feel" a prayer is heard.....



- you're right about being unseen......he wasn't there in CDO and Iligan, Fukushima, Thailand, Germany and Poland, in Auschwitz gas chambers, etc...........




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bai you remind me of George Carlin...let me quote him.

"But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is ****ed up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man. "

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- air has been explained.....so are the chemicals that can't be seen that can kill us....
- pasmo
- a very isolated incident happened a long time ago that no scientist/keen observer was able to fully document it...
- area51....it's a government thing....
- out of body experiences? we're they resuscitated? because if they weren't, chances are slim for a "short death experience"...also, chemicals are present in these instances that are NOT USUALLY present in an ordinary day of that person....(read about it once but will NEVER care to research for it to answer your question)
- jesus in a banana tree trunk? coincidence.....and no one ever had a "portrait and cropped" of jesus.....so, anyone could be that "apparition"....oh yeah....did you know that baristas in starbucks or any coffee shops can do an "apparition" in your cup?



- you should watch House....



- i wish he was Bruce Almighty.....at least i'd win the lottery even though what i won is smaller that how much the ticket was worth....at least i can "feel" a prayer is heard.....



- you're right about being unseen......he wasn't there in CDO and Iligan, Fukushima, Thailand, Germany and Poland, in Auschwitz gas chambers, etc...........
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-air has been explained.....so are the chemicals that can't be seen that can kill us....
-------> Still, there are some incident where science and logic cannot explain.


-pasmo
-------> Daghana gug napasmo. Mag-dungan sad diay na silag ka-pasmo sah? Mag-dungan sag ka-ulian. So you think dili na siya mysterious?


-a very isolated incident happened a long time ago that no scientist/keen observer was able to fully document it...
-------> Therefore, science and logic cannot explain it.


-area51....it's a government thing....
-------> Yes, pero ang question kung diin sila gikan remain unknown to them. Still, government, science and logic cannot explain their existence


- out of body experiences? we're they resuscitated? because if they weren't, chances are slim for a "short death experience"...also, chemicals are present in these instances that are NOT USUALLY present in an ordinary day of that person....(read about it once but will NEVER care to research for it to answer your question)
-------> Yes. Diha ra sad kutob ang science. What about stories of many people of different race nga nka-experience ug short death, seeing their body in front of them, and walked in the house as if they are there? Do you mean they are only dreaming?


- jesus in a banana tree trunk? coincidence.....and no one ever had a "portrait and cropped" of jesus.....so, anyone could be that "apparition"....oh yeah....did you know that baristas in starbucks or any coffee shops can do an "apparition" in your cup?
-------> So you mean the apparition of Mother Mary in Our Lady of Fatima a coincidence or the thousands of people there have hallucinations at the same time? Do you think the 3 kids of that incident were taking drugs because they have talked to Mary?


- you should watch House....
-------> ?


- i wish he was Bruce Almighty.....at least i'd win the lottery even though what i won is smaller that how much the ticket was worth....at least i can "feel" a prayer is heard.....
-------> Still science cannot explain many people who are possessed at the same time and was exorcised and recovered at the same time.


- you're right about being unseen......he wasn't there in CDO and Iligan, Fukushima, Thailand, Germany and Poland, in Auschwitz gas chambers, etc...........
-------> Even theist does not know what is God like. The argument alone that science and logic cannot explain fully a "mysterious" incident proves that God exist.

[ketllac]

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sa kataas sa imo gi post ma summarize ra sa idea nga kung di ma explain sa science ang mga butang naa gyud God.

so kung dili ma-explain naay Ginoo? ana ba ang sakto nga rason?

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sa kataas sa imo gi post ma summarize ra sa idea nga kung di ma explain sa science ang mga butang naa gyud God.

so kung dili ma-explain naay Ginoo? ana ba ang sakto nga rason?

Dili sad na mao imung pag-summarize. Naa man say uban nga na-explain sa science pero naay involvement ang Ginoo. Conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. In the beginning of time, there has to be a source of energy or else no living things existed.

Atheist rely on science, logic, and reason. Pero for the theist, the existence of God is difficult or impossible to explain in terms of science, logic, and reason. Atheists argue that God does not exist because God cannot be seen. So theists argue that not everything can be seen, which science cannot explain.

Sa imung question. Dili tanan dili ma-explain pasabot naay Ginoo. Mas reasonable kung muingon ka nga naa juy source sa tanan in the beginning of time. We can call that source as God.

[ketllac]

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OK causality. kung naay effect naay cause. so ang cause kay God. Everything has a source or cause. what if ang source or cause dili God nga imo gi view right now? or how sure you are nga god ng source?

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OK causality. kung naay effect naay cause. so ang cause kay God. Everything has a source or cause. what if ang source or cause dili God nga imo gi view right now? or how sure are you nga god ng source?

Theists believe that there are two sources of events and never exist to be together: good and evil. The source of goodness is God and the source of evil is Satan. Both cannot be seen directly but is visible indirectly.

If ang source dili God and if not neutral, it has to be evil effect with Satanic cause. Ang lisud ana kay ang pag-determine which is good and which is evil.

[ketllac]

Theists believe that there are two sources of events and never exist to be together: good and evil. The source of goodness is God and the source of evil is Satan. Both cannot be seen directly but is visible indirectly.

If ang source dili God and if not neutral, it has to be evil effect with Satanic cause. Ang lisud ana kay ang pag-determine which is good and which is evil.

so kung dili god ang source automatic satanic ang cause and effect.?

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so kung dili god ang source automatic satanic ang cause and effect.?

Yes.

Example: Kung nag-lakaw ka padung sm, good na xa or bad? Of course dili na matubag kung in-ana ra.

[ketllac]

Yes.

Example: Kung nag-lakaw ka padung sm, good na xa or bad? Of course dili na matubag kung in-ana ra.

unsa man ng satan bai, satan na pareha sa bible?