***what is really a true christianity?

[ketllac]

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bai jairoh the word fallen angel is different from the word Satan fallen from heaven.

ang fallen angel is a compound word ang satan usa ra. basic grammar lang, you can tell the difference..

sa logic pa na gitawag ug non -sequitor. kay gusto nimo i connect ang duha ka passage as if related. I am not saying nga si satanas ug si lucifer dili sad pareha pero dili lang klaro sa bible. Pero kung i navigate ang bible kwaon ang contexto sa usa ka verse dayon i paste sa laing libro or verse. aw pwede siguro, pero weak and not reliable..

[bearish]

messiah, Son of God and the only saviour of mankind who is able to restore our separation from GOD!

Take note... "the only". ang uban na dili christians para nimo way paglaom unless mo convert to christianity? and you get that idea because of youtube videos?

[WordofGod]

There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28.

absolutely correct bro...as we know that the goal of Lucifer is to deceive humanity into thinking that we are gods. but its an OT bro, tua na sa lain nga forum.

[naxi85]

murag broad ra ang thread para nako.
@WOG - what makes u a true christian?

[jairoh_]

bai jairoh the word fallen angel is different from the word Satan fallen from heaven.

ang fallen angel is a compound word ang satan usa ra. basic grammar lang, you can tell the difference..

Is Lucifer Satan? Does the fall of Lucifer describe Satan? read it naa manai mga verses dra. and you can open your bible too. hehehe. pero lahi2x man jud tag pagsabot so ok ra.

absolutely correct bro...as we know that the goal of Lucifer is to deceive humanity into thinking that we are gods. but its an OT bro, tua na sa lain nga forum.

i know just want to share some opinion related sa imong gpost TS

[WordofGod]

Take note... "the only". ang uban na dili christians para nimo way paglaom unless mo convert to christianity? and you get that idea because of youtube videos?

Kung nakasabot ta bro about the claims of Jesus to be the way, truth and the life as said in the gospel of John, then atong masabtan about the exclusivity of that claim. wala man sad lain tingali nga figure nga nagclaim parehas sa atong Ginoong Hesus.

do not misinterpret religion bro sa imong relationship sa Ginoo.

[ketllac]

Is Lucifer Satan? Does the fall of Lucifer describe Satan? read it naa manai mga verses dra. and you can open your bible too. hehehe. pero lahi2x man jud tag pagsabot so ok ra.


i know just want to share some opinion related sa imong gpost TS

sabta ni bro. I am not saying nga si satanas ug lucifer pareha or dili. Kuha? lisod lang i -connect ang verses sa laing libro dayon moingon ta dayon aw sure ko siya gyud na..bro ang pag study ug bible dili lang sa bible kuhaon ang idea. kundili tan -awon ang etymology, cultural meaning sa word nga satan ug lucifer diha sa greek, ug hebrew..sa laing word balikan ang words sa karaang contexto..mao ni danger sa mga christians nga bigot nga wala gani nag studihi historical/grammatical implication sa verse. himumdumi ang bible naay vulgate ug septuagint. anyways off topic na..

[bearish]

There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28.

ang uban mo ingon nga ang heaven and hell dili gyod na sila tinood nga place... kung mo ingon tag fall like lightning from heaven, it appears to my wild imagination nga place diay ang heaven... unsa man gyoy tinuod ani?

[WordofGod]

sabta ni bro. I am not saying nga si satanas ug lucifer pareha or dili. Kuha? lisod lang i -connect ang verses sa laing libro dayon moingon ta dayon aw sure ko siya gyud na..bro ang pag study ug bible dili lang sa bible kuhaon ang idea. kundili tan -awon ang etymology, cultural meaning sa word nga satan ug lucifer diha sa greek, ug hebrew..sa laing word balikan ang words sa karaang contexto..mao ni danger sa mga christians nga bigot nga wala gani nag studihi historical/grammatical implication sa verse. himumdumi ang bible naay vulgate ug septuagint. anyways off topic na..

Bro, straight to the point daw! you mean if christians claim the Lord Jesus Christ as the only saviour, then unsa man sad imong claim about Lucifer?

[ketllac]

@jairoh

unsa ka sure nga kanang Hebrew- helel; Septuagint- heosphoros, Vulgate -lucifer nga pareha ng tulo? how much more imo ng i equate sa Satan.